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FBI investigating Rush County home for artifact collection
wrtv ^ | Apr 02, 2014 | Jeremy Brilliant

Posted on 04/02/2014 8:38:44 PM PDT by digger48

RUSH COUNTY, Ind. - The FBI says a 91-year-old Indiana man who collected thousands of archeological artifacts over his lifetime may have acquired some of them improperly.

At a news conference Wednesday, the FBI could not say if Donald Miller would face charges for his collection in Waldron. Dozens of agents were at Miller's farm to collect and process the artifacts.

It happened in Waldron, a classic, quiet, one-stoplight Indiana town

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Several people in Waldron said the house was like a museum, that school groups and Scout troops would go on regular tours.

The FBI has around 100 agents at the farm and they say it could take them up to a week to figure out what all the artifacts are. They've brought in a team of outside experts of archeologists and anthropologists to help.

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"Over the last several months a FBI investigation has determined Mr. Miller may have knowingly or unknowingly collected artifacts relics and objects which may have been a violation of several treaties, federal, and state statues," said FBI Special Agent in Charge Robert Jones.

(Excerpt) Read more at wthr.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aafascism; alreadyposted; confrontationwatch; donaldmiller; donutwatch; drmiller; fbi; fbiraid; feos; godsgravesglyphs; guiltyuntilinnocent; indiana; policestate; rushcounty; waldron
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I was going to comment, but I think the picture says it all

1 posted on 04/02/2014 8:38:44 PM PDT by digger48
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To: digger48

more pictures at the link.


2 posted on 04/02/2014 8:41:21 PM PDT by digger48
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To: digger48

I am speechless.


3 posted on 04/02/2014 8:42:13 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: digger48

Wonder who took offense to bring down all that heat?


4 posted on 04/02/2014 8:42:18 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: digger48

“If you have your artifacts, you can keep your artifacts...”


5 posted on 04/02/2014 8:43:18 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

How about busting jihadist spy rings? How about busting organized crime? How about enforcing immigration laws, @ssh@les?

Thanks digger48.


6 posted on 04/02/2014 8:43:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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To: digger48

Where are the porta-potties? If the cops were ransacking my place, stealing all my stuff while threatening me, I’d tell them to go to Hell if they want to use my toilets.


7 posted on 04/02/2014 8:43:24 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks digger48.

8 posted on 04/02/2014 8:43:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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To: digger48

I’m very disappointed. I thought the FBI was on a great roll nabbing all the corrupt Democrats across the country. Maybe the jails got too full.


9 posted on 04/02/2014 8:43:55 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: digger48

The circus has come to town.


10 posted on 04/02/2014 8:44:33 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: digger48

I haven’t even read the long form yet, but I have to wonder:

Is there even a “right way” to collect “artifacts” anymore???


11 posted on 04/02/2014 8:44:50 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: digger48

Pic is reminiscent of the Dravidian Compound.


12 posted on 04/02/2014 8:45:50 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: digger48

Pic is reminiscent of the Davidian Compound.


13 posted on 04/02/2014 8:46:36 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: BradyLS

Maybe he found the “artifacts” on his farm, or on the land of friends. How is it the FBI’s business? They probably just didn’t get their cut. Wonder who squealed on the old guy?


14 posted on 04/02/2014 8:46:49 PM PDT by madison10
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To: BradyLS

[ I haven’t even read the long form yet, but I have to wonder:

Is there even a “right way” to collect “artifacts” anymore??? ]

No, of course this will encourage casual collectors to shovel and horde....

Find buried gold coins, govt takes them all, find old ancient potter government will toss you in jail...


15 posted on 04/02/2014 8:47:06 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Paladin2

Without the flames....


16 posted on 04/02/2014 8:47:06 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: digger48

An interesting bit about the man in the links at the end of the article.

http://www.rushvillerepublican.com/local/x681493636/The-Day-the-Sun-Rose-Twice?zc_p=0

It was May of 1945, and Don Miller had just been assigned to the firing squad for the testing of the atomic bomb in Los Alamos, N.M.


17 posted on 04/02/2014 8:47:25 PM PDT by digger48
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To: BradyLS

For example, you cannot wander around on a civil war battlefield and dig stuff up.

Not saying he did any of that....but that is the type of thing they mean. I am willing to be the has Native American stuff from reservations. That is a big no no.


18 posted on 04/02/2014 8:48:04 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Paladin2

...yet.


19 posted on 04/02/2014 8:48:31 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: SunkenCiv

[ How about busting jihadist spy rings? How about busting organized crime? How about enforcing immigration laws, ]

That is what the National Parks service is for.....You know border security and Jihadi busting...

The Prosecution of wrongfully obtained artifacts is what the FBI is for....

Next they will be sending out IRS tax collectors to inspect meat and dairy plants....


20 posted on 04/02/2014 8:48:56 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Cyber Liberty

I knew someone who had their house raided - by mistake - and they stole everything in sight. Never got a thing back.


21 posted on 04/02/2014 8:49:15 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Paladin2

OK, it’s kind of red neck.

Some Indian tribe got browned off?


22 posted on 04/02/2014 8:49:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: digger48

100 agents?? really?


23 posted on 04/02/2014 8:50:44 PM PDT by equalator
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To: Vermont Lt

Not saying he did any of that....but that is the type of thing they mean. I am willing to be the has Native American stuff from reservations. That is a big no no.

Could be stuff he collected at garage sales that was at one time dug up from reservations....

Maybe he had a Indian friend he bought it from not knowing it was from there....

If I have a friend from the rez and they give me some old artifact am I breaking the law or are they?


24 posted on 04/02/2014 8:51:28 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: digger48
I was going to comment, but I think the picture says it all

What, no tanks? Well, you know, just in case they have trouble with that 91 year old guy, and they can't handle him.

25 posted on 04/02/2014 8:51:58 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: digger48

This has to be a joke.


26 posted on 04/02/2014 8:52:39 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: GraceG

DHS was called in to shake down someone wearing Google Glass at a theater — apparently they enforce the copyright laws now.


27 posted on 04/02/2014 8:53:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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To: Mark17
I think I read that some local cops killed a 95 yr old with bean bag rounds.

No real reason to do so other than that they could....

28 posted on 04/02/2014 8:53:55 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: HMS Surprise

No, it doesn’t.


29 posted on 04/02/2014 8:54:16 PM PDT by MileHi
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To: digger48
"The FBI says a 91-year-old Indiana man who collected thousands of archeological artifacts over his lifetime may have acquired some of them improperly."

The man is getting quite old, I am betting the Fed Gov is looking to increase the amount of artifact the Smithsonian has...

You know before his children get any of them, think of it as the "Death Artifact Tax"....

But you know it would be hardship for the Child molesting inbred DuPont Heir to actually go to Jail, but you can be assured this 91 year old man will be sent to the clink to die....

30 posted on 04/02/2014 8:56:04 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: HiTech RedNeck
There is nothing wrong with vernacular Architecture.

It's part of Liberty.

31 posted on 04/02/2014 8:56:08 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ladyjane

But the cops got home safely at the end of their shifts. It’s all that matters. I hope they didn’t have a dog.


32 posted on 04/02/2014 8:56:42 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: digger48

May have?

Do they evidence for this?


33 posted on 04/02/2014 8:58:28 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Vermont Lt

“For example, you cannot wander around on a civil war battlefield and dig stuff up.

Not saying he did any of that....but that is the type of thing they mean. I am willing to be the has Native American stuff from reservations. That is a big no no.”

I thought ex post facto laws were a big no no also. How long has it been “illegal” to posess these things? Taking it off the rez or a battle field is wrong but who knows how he came by this stuff.


34 posted on 04/02/2014 8:58:47 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: Paladin2
"A 95-year-old Illinois man died in a violent confrontation with police on Friday after refusing to check into a medical facility. After threatening police with a cane and a knife, the senior citizen was Tasered and fatally shot with bean-bag rounds.

The Cook County medical examiner’s office said John Warna, a 95-year-old resident of a senior living community in Park Forest, Ill., died of blunt force trauma of the abdomen after police shot him with bean bag rounds.

Police officers were called to the assisted living home on Friday to help employees of a private ambulance company involuntarily transfer Warna to a clinic for medical treatment. The senior citizen had allegedly threatened the facility’s staff and paramedics with a metal cane and a 2-foot shoehorn because he did not want to check into the hospital. "

Should I live so long, I'm going down fighting too.

35 posted on 04/02/2014 8:58:54 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: GraceG

according to the article, he didn’t have any children.

This was something he and his wife did together.

Read throught the links at the end of the article. He tells of his involvement in the testing of the Atomic Bomb and the process the military put him through to get there.

Can’t be many of those guys left.


36 posted on 04/02/2014 8:59:51 PM PDT by digger48
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To: SunkenCiv

Whole damned gov is upside down with government agencies doing things they are not supposed to be doing or other agency’s jobs...

Yeah, I am betting the National Forest Service will be issuing regulations concerning children’s nutrition...

Hell, NASA is doing Moose-Limb outreach, next thing NOAA will be doing analysis on the work habit of High Schoolers with part time jobs who are illegal immigrants and the Dept of Agriculture will be providing Free School Lunches to those illegal alien students... Wait they actually are providing those lunches...


37 posted on 04/02/2014 8:59:56 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

“If I have a friend from the Res’ and they give me some old artifact, am I breaking the law or are they?”

These days...hang on to your receipts!


38 posted on 04/02/2014 9:00:26 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: GraceG

“If I have a friend from the Res’ and they give me some old artifact, am I breaking the law or are they?”

These days...hang on to your receipts!


39 posted on 04/02/2014 9:00:50 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: digger48

Wow, that’s a great find!


40 posted on 04/02/2014 9:00:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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To: digger48

” according to the article, he didn’t have any children. “

Most ALL Governments have a habit of pilfering old childless people of their possession .... even BEFORE they die...


41 posted on 04/02/2014 9:01:17 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

NASA has been doing surface temps (CAGW dogma from Hansen) through it’s GISS subset for decades.


42 posted on 04/02/2014 9:02:20 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SunkenCiv

as I noted in another post, there can’t be many of those guys still around


43 posted on 04/02/2014 9:02:40 PM PDT by digger48
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To: SunkenCiv

Maybe this guy has the Ark of the Covenant.


44 posted on 04/02/2014 9:02:57 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: digger48

Yowsa! What’s he got in there?

Talk about overkill.


45 posted on 04/02/2014 9:04:23 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: digger48
Whole country going to crap, can't even whole a honest election and FBI is going to worry about this penny ante crap.

What a @%#$ing joke.

46 posted on 04/02/2014 9:04:43 PM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Also check out that link digger posted, this “perp” worked on the first atomic bombs, knew the geniuses at Alamagordo, worked at Bikini atoll.


47 posted on 04/02/2014 9:09:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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To: mass55th

Shouldn’t they be investigating the theft and illegal possession of the skull of the Native American Geronimo that currently resides in the basement of Yale University?

Also, instead of wasting the time of the FBI shouldn’t the Parks Service be the ones investigating this instead...?


48 posted on 04/02/2014 9:11:09 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"I’m very disappointed. I thought the FBI was on a great roll nabbing all the corrupt Democrats across the country. Maybe the jails got too full."

No, no, the FBI is still doing that. In fact I have it from reliable sources that every one of those skulls voted "straight party Democrat" in the 2008 election.

49 posted on 04/02/2014 9:11:55 PM PDT by fini
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To: digger48

Oh, my God. They are going to burn this place down. Quick, rush is children and adults, and douse it with gas. This place looks just like a particular building in Waco, Texas.


50 posted on 04/02/2014 9:12:15 PM PDT by healy61
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