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Daughter Interested in Joining the Military
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Posted on 04/07/2014 5:35:52 PM PDT by MacMattico

Wow. My daughter is 16, an A student and interested in possibly joining the military. While this fills me with great pride, and my family has a history of male members in the navy and Marine Corp, this kind of blew my mind. Not in a bad way, I guess it's just amazing, wonderful and scary all at the same time coming from MY daughter!

I was wondering if anybody would like to share any and everything they know about their daughter or females in general in the military. At this point she is thinking of an eventual career in something like Energency Management, perhaps law or intelligence, or a medical field. In other words undecided, but we have a family history of Veterans that went into Emergency Management and Firefighting, so maybe that's what she sees as "the family business"! It's a lot to take in all at once for a mom, but what should she be doing now if this were her eventual goal? She is a Varsity athlete, good student, and keeps out of trouble. Thanks so much! And while I will of course ask within the family, I appreciate outside opinions.


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My daughter never fails to amaze me!
1 posted on 04/07/2014 5:35:52 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

I hope she’s ready to affirm same-sex marriage. (that’s a requirement now)


2 posted on 04/07/2014 5:39:14 PM PDT by Viennacon
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I'd be proud of her too however this is not the time of Reagan or Bush or Eisenhower or even Kennedy...

they promote gayness and they promote antiChristianity....

they are training them to turn on we the citizens...

in all good conscience why would anybody encourage or enable their sons or dtrs to be part of this?....why feed the monster?

3 posted on 04/07/2014 5:40:26 PM PDT by cherry
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To: MacMattico

Medical, NROTC


4 posted on 04/07/2014 5:40:26 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: MacMattico

What branch of the military is she planning on joining?


5 posted on 04/07/2014 5:41:21 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (The more you know, the more you realize that you don't know.)
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To: MacMattico

She needs to stay focused in school. HS transcripts tell a lot. Is she looking at getting a commission? Does her HS offer ROTC?


6 posted on 04/07/2014 5:43:02 PM PDT by Antoninus II
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To: MacMattico

Tell her to stay the hell away from today’s military....it’s not yours or your father’s. It’s a social experiment which incidentally, does not protect women from rape or assault.


7 posted on 04/07/2014 5:44:06 PM PDT by Banjoguy
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked

Her Marine Uncle recommends the Air Force, but I don’t really think she has decided that yet.


8 posted on 04/07/2014 5:45:29 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

don’t do it today.

I would never serve or help progressives in any endeavor they partake. furthermore, I would recommend tripping them up and sabotaging their efforts at every opportunity


9 posted on 04/07/2014 5:45:44 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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With the utter structural damage that has been done to the military by the current regime, I could not, in clear conscience, counsel anybody to go in at this time...and probably not for several years, if not a decade or longer, until after this regime is ousted from power. And THAT’s if a conservative replaces him. If Hitlery replaces him, then God have mercy on us all.

Does she have a FReeper view on the world and on society? Particularly in regard to conservative politics...and most especially in regard to sodomites? If so, she will have to guard her tongue...both on duty and off duty...as long as she wears the uniform.

If she is really interested, I’d suggest that she graduate from HS, go on and get a 4 year degree from a good, solid, God-fearing college...and, at that point, take a good hard look at it.

Signed,
MSgt, USAF (Ret)


10 posted on 04/07/2014 5:45:55 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: MacMattico

ROTC, then get a job requiring a clearance. She will be able to find a great job in EM at the Fed level or with a consulting firm and make over $100,000 a year.


11 posted on 04/07/2014 5:46:30 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: cherry

So we should let the military be taken over by the lefties and not encourage good, serious, patriotic people to join?


12 posted on 04/07/2014 5:46:56 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

Talk to her about going through the ROTC program. It will pay for her college and get her feet wet with the military.


13 posted on 04/07/2014 5:47:59 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: markomalley

I didn’t know that you had been in the military. Thank you.


14 posted on 04/07/2014 5:48:46 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Banjoguy

Today’s military is a social experiment and under this regime it is best left alone. I am former military and enjoyed my time as a reservist years ago....yet will not advise my offspring to participate as I see the dangers, deceptions, and absolute disgraceful changes.


15 posted on 04/07/2014 5:48:51 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: MacMattico

ROTC. As much as possible.

My favorite cousin joined the army decades ago. She went to college, though, and went through ROTC there before enlisting. She went through various training including parachuting (just training, nothing major). She went to various posts before meeting her husband in Seattle, who also was Army. They have since been in various positions until her husband retired (she quit the Army a while back), including much in Germany and also in Egypt. (She was returning to Egypt from leave at the time of that airline crash from NY - scary!) They are back in Germany for the Army because they offered HER a job teaching German/English as needed (that was her major in college), and her husband went with her.

Maybe your daughter could encourage my twin nieces to join. Regardless of the PC, I think they could still get a nice kick in the respective butts that would straighten them out.


16 posted on 04/07/2014 5:50:02 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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Don't listen to the naysayers. I've got 10+ years in the Navy and I truly love my job. I'm at sea right now as I type this reply (yes, we have internet).

I'm paid well, serve with a great bunch of people, get to see the world, enjoy excellent benefits and I don't have to enroll in Obamacare (not yet, anyways).

I would recommend the Navy to anyone interested in serving.

17 posted on 04/07/2014 5:50:14 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Antoninus II

Her high school does not offer ROTC. She has a male friend that is in an Air force program outside of school, but I don’t know much about that yet.


18 posted on 04/07/2014 5:50:25 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: markomalley

I’m afraid I have to agree with ya’. I’m from a military family. It’s just not the same anymore.


19 posted on 04/07/2014 5:50:51 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: MacMattico

The military is getting very selective now.

To join as an enlisted soldier:

You need a HS diploma. No GED.
No run-ins with the law. No drugs. No DUI.
Pass a military SAT type test
Take a physical fitness test
No medical issues. Not even a minor one. No asthma.

Military intelligence will get you a civilian job. Same with logistics and communications.


20 posted on 04/07/2014 5:51:24 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Banjoguy

Yup, I can not fathom anyone wanting to serve under the leadership we have.


21 posted on 04/07/2014 5:53:33 PM PDT by heights
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To: MacMattico

O Lord ,save us. Another one eager to follow the orders of an abysmal CNC.


22 posted on 04/07/2014 5:53:57 PM PDT by pacific_waters
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Can one do ROTC in college if not previously enrolled in HS? We have a friend who’s son is ROTC at uni, but they had a HS program and got a good scholarship.


23 posted on 04/07/2014 5:55:15 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: MacMattico

a) Is she a Christian? If so, and she can be IN this world but not OF it, she will do fine, but only insofar as she does not lose faith. b) is she well immunized from mental illness? (e.g., Does she know not to take personal offense at another’s mental illness and just carry on, normally? Can/will she avoid attempting to engage in logical arguments with irrational people? Can she maintain objectivity under duress? Can she defend herself when confronted by a lunatic by acting even crazier if needed and moving to safety?)
If these are true, she will be fine. Otherwise, it will not end well.


24 posted on 04/07/2014 5:55:18 PM PDT by cqnc (Don't Blame ME, I voted for the American!)
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To: Drew68
Thank you for sharing, Drew68. I'm a bit shocked at the responses— the only kids I know that have joined lately (past 10 years) are good, honest, conservative kids. The military members I know would be more likely to turn on the Government then U.S citizens.
25 posted on 04/07/2014 5:57:13 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

An Air Force program? Or CAP?


26 posted on 04/07/2014 5:59:16 PM PDT by Antoninus II
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To: MacMattico

Read this http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3141398/posts, then this http://www.jqpublic-blog.com/force-mismanagement-afpc-botches-retirements-airmen-caught-crossfire/, then get back to me and let me know if you still think she is making a good decision.


27 posted on 04/07/2014 6:00:06 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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She sounds like an excellent candidate for the military academies! Going there will open a world of possibilities for her she never thought possible. Every year they are rated as among the top universities in the country, but it takes a special kind of person to go there. She sounds like just the type. For sure it us worth at least taking a look. I have a coffee mug on my desk with the cover of the 2009 Forbes Magazine ranking colleges titled “Why West Point Beats Harvard” ranking it as the best in the country. Really gets under the skin of the Harvard folks I work with. Great experience for young women. Heck, I met my wife there :)


28 posted on 04/07/2014 6:03:51 PM PDT by grayhog
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Hmmm.....don't know what to say, but I have wondered, to myself, if I would do it all over again. 5 years ago? You betcha. Now?

I don't honestly know. I am leaning towards no.

....and that pisses me off.
29 posted on 04/07/2014 6:03:52 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: MacMattico

Does she speak Spanish, Russian or Mandarin?

How does she look with a shaved head?


30 posted on 04/07/2014 6:07:10 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: MacMattico
The military members I know would be more likely to turn on the Government then U.S citizens.

I would have agreed, wholeheartedly, with that statement 5 plus years ago. Not too sure right now.
31 posted on 04/07/2014 6:07:26 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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Its is really a mixed bag. Try CAP for now see how she does. Excellently? Go for a Service Academy? Successful? Keep Going. Stay ‘normal’ but KYMS. Does she see herself in this Poem? Full Speed Ahead!

If—
BY RUDYARD KIPLING
(‘Brother Square-Toes’—Rewards and Fairies)

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

(my apologies for gender-specific text)


32 posted on 04/07/2014 6:08:13 PM PDT by cqnc (Don't Blame ME, I voted for the American!)
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I can't claim any particular knowledge on the subject but a young lady could get some good training and experience in the Armed Forces.Everything from air traffic control to X-ray tech and lots of things in between.
33 posted on 04/07/2014 6:09:37 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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Congrats to you and her! Does she have any interest in attending a service academy or is she enlisting out of high school or will she go ROTC in college and join after graduation?


34 posted on 04/07/2014 6:09:42 PM PDT by rabidralph
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I'm a bit shocked at the responses

Why?

Do you really think America circa 1984 is the same as America circa 2014?

35 posted on 04/07/2014 6:11:25 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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My daughter was looking at joining a few years back. The navy had some pretty good programs, but the Air Force seemed to be the best fit. Then she met this guy in the Army, and she’s fallen in love. I don’t have the heart to tell her the life expectancy of forward observers in a real fight.


36 posted on 04/07/2014 6:15:00 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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talk her out of it. they are purging out real Christians now. don’t let her join up.


37 posted on 04/07/2014 6:18:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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I come from a military family from mom to brothers dad and uncle. I had a chance to go to Annapolis and become a Marine pilot. I still regret not going but my career anyway worked out. She’ll need some long hard thinking and research into what she wants and what branch. I think Air Force first, Navy second, Coast Guard third, Marines and lastly Army.


38 posted on 04/07/2014 6:21:20 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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The military is no place for a woman....


39 posted on 04/07/2014 6:21:22 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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How blessed you are!!!!!

I tried to join the Army when I was 18 - even dressed for the occasion- 4 inch hot pink stilettos, a blue jean mini skirt, Flashdance torn t-shirt and blonde curls cascading past my waist.

I stood in front of the Army recruiter, an ebony black gentleman with gold wire spectacles perched on the end of his nose, who was reading something and didn’t acknowlege me for several minutes. Without moving any other muscle, he raised his eyelids, looked up and barked, “Kin ah hep ya?” I tossed my blonde hair over my shoulder and proudly announced that I was there to join the Army. He flicked his eyes from my shoes to the top of my head, looked back at what he was reading and absentmindedly said, “Little gull, you bettah talk to yo daddy ‘bout dat.”

Thus ended any hopes I had of a military career.


40 posted on 04/07/2014 6:21:32 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: MacMattico; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty/Retiree ping.


41 posted on 04/07/2014 6:24:54 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: cqnc
She is a Catholic who can easily defend her faith, but won't go looking for a fight if her beliefs are challenged unless it's absolutely necessary. In other words she can go with the flow in a crazy situation and I believe hold on to her core beliefs. She can defend herself in a logical argument but wouldn't rock the boat until in a position where she would be able to-— in other words understands she's under others command and would keep her separate beliefs to herself until she was in a position to share. Sad but true.

In regards to Physically defending herself, fwiw she became a black belt in karate at age 13, has sparred with my marine corp brother, has shot all different types of guns and weaponry that shall remain nameless because we live in NY. This is a concern as a mom-- she was on the homecoming court last year. This says to me as a mom that while I have always thought of her as pretty, so do her peers. Maybe a dumb question but how are very pretty girls treated in the military?

42 posted on 04/07/2014 6:28:27 PM PDT by MacMattico
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She could go to college first and go in as an officer. If she plays her cards right, she can have the military pay for extensive graduate education, including a medical degree, and can have a fine career as a military physician. The guy who lives across the street from me is a Navy doctor—an endocrinologist, I believe—and he’s doing quite well financially. No, he’s not rich, but extremely comfortable, and unlike most doctors nowadays he doesn’t have a dime in educational loans to pay back.


43 posted on 04/07/2014 6:31:51 PM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: MacMattico

Take a close look at the number of unwed mothers in the military. Personally my experience is that it is a bad place for a young woman, especially one who is attractive and/or naive.


44 posted on 04/07/2014 6:34:54 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I don’t know. IIRC cousin never talked about ROTC in high school. She went to a private HS. But I would recommend AMAP of it. Our HS had ROTC and quite a few were in it


45 posted on 04/07/2014 6:37:14 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: MacMattico

Age 16? In just over two years, the communist thug will be on his way out of our White House. I would ignore the naysayers who think a drug-addled loser with temporary power is a consideration for your daughter’s service in our military. I pray that Obama’s entire legacy will be repealed within the first hundred days after America is freed, but in any case I expect his contamination of our military to be swept away quickly.

I would strongly advise ROTC/USMA/USNA/USAFA if her grades, interest, and aptitude are compatible with college and the commissioning options (pay is much higher, work no harder). The key is whether she can finish two semesters of calculus for any of those paths. If she works hard at math, starting now, can she do that? As for which service, it’s more about her than about what we recommend. Does she like the sea? Navy (my service) is great, but not if you get seasick. Does she have the reflexes and motivation to be a pilot, or does she think maintaining planes would be fun? USAF is a good choice if you think flying is cool, bad option if you are bored by the idea. Same for Army and sleeping in the mud - is that summer camp or misery?

Which branch is and ought to be her choice. All the options can be great. [I left the Marines out, but not for any particular reason; she should look at what they do too. Semper Fi!]


46 posted on 04/07/2014 6:37:17 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Your daughter sounds like a gem. :) And we need good people in the military. But I advise you to look up rates of sexual abuse (rape and other) in the armed forces. I’ve read recently that as many as a quarter of all women in the armed forces have been raped. (The rate of male-on-male rape is also much higher than in our general population.) Check that out before making decisions.


47 posted on 04/07/2014 6:37:49 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: Flycatcher

No,but is filling our armed forces with liberals the answer going forward?


48 posted on 04/07/2014 6:38:06 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

I don’t think the responses are that shocking. The military is a great place to have a child out of wedlock. There is a good sized underclass within the military, especially in the Army, from my experience anyway. Long gone are the days when the average regular family sent their kids into the service, which is sad. Look at our leaders...how many have kids on active duty (and I don’t mean a quick JAG tour, George P.).


49 posted on 04/07/2014 6:38:44 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: MacMattico
How do "poor" people pay for e-cigarettes in the first place, or regular cigarettes for that matter?

I think it's admirable that your daughter wants to serve in the military.

Gotta ask: Is she aware of just how crappily our military is being treated by the current pResident and that the damage he's done to our military will take YEARS to fix and put back to normal??

50 posted on 04/07/2014 6:40:07 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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