Posted on 04/25/2014 8:57:59 AM PDT by neverdem
Exercising outside isn't making them fat. I'll grant you that people who spend the day outside might spend less idle time in the house eating. Whatever the causation, emulating the lifestyles of people who lead long, active, healthy lives can't hurt.
I love it when the medical profession FINALLY starts looking at nutritional supplements.
My very distinguished doc looked at the list I brought him of all the supplements I take. “They won’t hurt you,” he said. Ten years later, he’s undergoing experimental treatment for his life threatening melanoma, and he just wrote a paper on the benefits of a vegan diet and supplementation with — gasp — vitamins.
Here’s some good info on Vitamin K from Thorne, an excellent supplement company:
http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/.fulltext/14/3/284.pdf
Well I don't know about that, but I have always heard that tanned fat looks better than pale, pasty fat. What do you prefer, a nice roasted brown turkey or a pale raw turkey?
The article itself cites statistical significance at the .05 level. Other measures were also significant.
All within one standard deviation. Insignificant.
I take 680 mg of strontium and 500 mg chelated magnesium to build bone, or to fight osteoporosis.
I take 100 mcg Vitamin K1/day (Country Life). Is K2 better?
A P value of 0.05 indicates a 95% Confidence Interval - that is the definition of a statistically significant event.
“It’s especially important to take Vitamin D3 in the winter, if you don’t get much sun.”
Everyone who lives above of 33* N Latitude (which is Los Angeles, CA) does not get enough sunlight to make sufficient vitamin D. Here in N. Idaho I advise my patients to take a minimum of 2000iu every day.
You are correct. I misread their data.
“I advise my patients to take a minimum of 2000iu every day.”
That is good. Everybody needs D3 and here in Ohio I advise all my clients that they should do 10,000 iu per day. This is well below any toxicity levels and is better than a flu shot for prevention. Flu shots are hazardous. D3 is not. Dark skinned people do not do well getting vitamin D from the sun and even in Florida they should do the 10,000 units of D3, in my opinion.
K1 is the one that’s involved in blood clotting. K2 is the one involved in bone formation. It’s responsible for keeping calcium in your bones and not your arteries. There are several varieties of K2. MK4 and MK7 seem to be the ones that are most studied at this point. I take a little of both each day.
Read up on K2, D3 and varieties and dosing. Especially if you have issues with blood clotting or stickiness.
My internist takes MK4 and MK7. The MK4 every day and the MK7 2 or 3 times a week as it stays in the blood longer.
YMMV of course.
IF you’re on warfarin or other blood thinner ask your doc and have your INR monitored if you begin taking ANY K vitamin (K1 OR K2) as they can both interfere with INR values. Some docs have their warfarin patients adjust their warfarin dosage to a particular dose of K2 to lower the known risk of aortic stenosis associated with long term warfarin use.
Some cannot process it for some reason so you take pills. I feel I have more energy from taking up to 10,000 IU a day. The sun gives you that in about 10 minutes. I take it because I was always feeling rundown. I also take iron. I stopped taking the thyroid med when the doctor told to start taking vitamin D.
I take 4400 IU daily, 4000 IU as D3 and another 400 IU in a multivitamin which may be D2 or D3. IIRC, D2 needs a pass through the kidneys. When they do the serum assay it can be expressed as ng/ml, nanograms per milliliter or nmol/l, nanomoles per liter. Those units are not the same. Find out what units are being used and what's the normal range for serum 25(OH)D.
Oh thank you! I’d read about Vitamin K being good for bones, so picked this up at the health food store. The bottle even mentioned it being specifically for bones. I will take your advice and look into it and then pick up what I need. I’m not on any meds, so nothing to interfere with. Or I should say, no meds to interfere with my supplements. Again, thank you. You’re very informative.
Why stop the thyroid med? That doesn't sound wise.
This is the stuff I currently take:
http://www.vitacost.com/jarrow-formulas-bone-up-superior-calcium-formula-360-capsules
http://www.iherb.com/Thorne-Research-Vitamin-K2-1-fl-oz-30-ml/21592
http://www.iherb.com/Healthy-Origins-Vitamin-D3-10-000-IU-360-Softgels/21298
It is partly that they are not extremely overweight or otherwise very ill that they are able to take up these activities in the first place.
But emulating the healthy ones can't hurt; I agree.
I have read that K2 is the good stuff. K1, not so much.
A ghastly fermented soy product called Natto is the best natural source of K2. I’ve tried it. Yuk. Plus, it’s very expensive and hard to find if you don’t have a Japanese market nearby.
I was diagnosed with osteoporosis, so I really need K2. I believe Thorne Research has the best, also available from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/THORNE-RESEARCH-Vitamin-Liquid-Health/dp/B000FGWDTK
Another take on K2 from Dr. Sinatra, who is, I believe a reputable guy:
http://www.drsinatra.com/vitamin-k2-and-its-benefits
And a lengthy but readable discussion of K1 and K2 from Thorne Research:
http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/.fulltext/14/3/284.pdf
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