Posted on 05/09/2014 6:19:54 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
I support the pre-Clinton Pentagon policies on homos in the military. Political pressure is the only reason it ever changed in the first place. That requires a political solution to get it back to how it was. I am not comfortable with politicians deciding those things, but that’s where we are. Ban them.
Gays have been marrying for centuries, and may continue to do so. They just have to marry people of the opposite sex. I doubt you got anything right, and probably didn’t understand what I just said.
Now, twist all of that into some lies. I’m still waiting on:
1) A single leftwing social position I am promoting.
2) A single social conservative position I am attacking.
3) Anything that backs up your assertion that the public didn’t know abortion meant the baby dies prior to Roe.
Liar.
So you would allow them to have sex with each other in public places like rest stops?
I appreciate your posts here, this phrase above all. It captures that all-too-common tiresome offended party stance.
I will never forget all the bandwagon libs who willfully took Bob Barr's "real America" comment and forever on misquoted it as "real Americans", with all the righteous and unrighteousness indignation they could muster. I heard the original comment in context, then in the next moment heard it misquoted with that "indignation" ... and it devolved from there.
So you support federal laws against homosexuality and gay marriage, (at the federal level).
Is that your final answer, or do you have more games to play?
You are impossible to understand, and seem to think that makes you look smart, instead of, a little off.
That’s always been the answer. You make up the games to try to conceal your lies. Now, on to more pressing issues.
1) A single leftwing social position I am promoting.
2) A single social conservative position I am attacking.
3) Anything that backs up your assertion that the public didn’t know abortion meant the baby dies prior to Roe.
Liar. You still can’t back up a single one of them.
That post doesn’t even make sense.
You do, or don’t support federal laws against homosexuality and gay marriage, (at the federal level).
It seems like you would know what your position is, as we head towards the primary season for the 2016 presidential season.
That is a fundamental question we will be trying to answer about the presidential candidates, surely you can’t still be uncertain of your own position on it?
They will say they do not advocate drugs and free sex for or with kids - depending on the weirdness of the libertopian - and the other stuff.
They just do not think it should be illegal.
You cannot really debate a libertopian
I’m just curious in finding out what their politics are, they won’t say.
They seem to pride themselves on playing angry troll, without discussing actual political positions and campaign issues.
“Muslims are doing this.”
Good point. I hadn’t thought about that. it’s been a very effective strategy for them.
I'm not surprised about the personal attacks. I have two close friends who are libertarian and your original post sums up their end of our debates rather succinctly. Though they deny being libertines or anarchists, they passionately argue in favor of cultural liberalism and even some elements of anarcho-collectivism (that's a real head-scratcher there).
To be fair, "libertarianism" encompasses extremely divergent views. But, the points being argued by those I'm familiar with leave no doubt about their ideas of a utopian society. What my friends don't fully grasp is such a "utopian" condition makes us ripe pickings for the whims of tyrants both domestic or foreign. Our Founding Fathers knew of these dangers and their wisdom on this subject has been recorded for prosperity.
It seems we are destined to learn this all over again the hard way.
“Too many Libertarians accept the killing of nascent life as a right, and welcome law that forces citizens to support and service homosexuality.”
I tend to agree. However, keep in mind that what we hear about is the unusual and the freakish, not the the normal. For example, this article goes to pains to discuss an after hours party where sex toys are tossed about. What isn’t chronicled are the folks who went home to their children and got up early the next morning to go to work or church.
Posterity, that is.
Libertarian-theme threads—always such fun to read!
The essence of libertarianism is the nonaggression principle (NAP). There is nothing more aggressive than abortion, Infanticide. Libertarianism takes no position on homosexuality other than the government should stay out of it. Some libertarians find it reprehensible, some cool and others couldn’t care less. But homosex itself is not libertarian issue just government policy towards.
Libertarianism is simply NAP.
Keep in mind that Libertarian Party speaks for libertarians like Republican Party speaks for conservatives. Citing party platform is meaningless.
That is a lie, and is total nonsense, the libertarian party is not a vast old party of a 60 million voters, one of two in a two party system that covers the entire United States and is real, and one of the two factions since the Civil War.
The Lib party was formed by libertarians as a tiny, perfect, pure representation of libertarianism, and that is what it is, that is why the party platform remains so pure and untainted, it isn’t a giant party that is trying to win over diversity and non libbers. that is actually trying to win the presidency, it is solely to put libber philosophy into political language as a recruiting tool and tool of influence.
You can ask yourself why libbers would make such a silly claim that is so obviously false, but cults are famous for changing the message for different audiences, and that is a staple of libertarianism.
Another total propagandists lie.
Someone who hasn’t dealt with libertarians and Mormons would think that you just said they are pro-life and support traditional marriage etc, in elections and candidates.
Actually libertarianism is pro-abortion, full term, with ZERO restrictions, and it is for completely removing any discrimination against homosexuality in marriage, immigration, military service, in other words, pro-gay.
Read post 159, if you want to know libertarianism on gay issues and abortion, look at the party platform, it spells it out.
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