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Exclusive: We'll never give her back! Biological family of 9-year-old girl ripped from foster parent
Daily Mail ^ | 16 May 2014 | By Will Payne and Sara Malm

Posted on 05/16/2014 10:18:00 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister

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To: DannyTN

No, I could be a fair judge in these “hard” cases. It’s the American people who can’t see the ramifications of the policies they enact.


21 posted on 05/16/2014 11:40:40 PM PDT by Theodore R. (It's inevitable: Kentuckians are incapable of saying "No" to McC!)
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To: DannyTN

Yes, it is strange that child protection did not place the child with family members, especially the paternal grandmother, in the first place.

In returning the girl back to her biological father, one would think the court should have at least set up a transitional period.


22 posted on 05/16/2014 11:49:13 PM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: PapaNew

they did adopt her, the court overturned it


23 posted on 05/17/2014 2:25:05 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: CorporateStepsister

no, the one who has time to care for her is most likely to have custody


24 posted on 05/17/2014 2:26:01 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: babygene

yeah he is an armed robber


25 posted on 05/17/2014 2:26:32 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: CorporateStepsister

As opposed to the parent who has actually had primary care of the child?


26 posted on 05/17/2014 3:29:19 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Jonty30

The government supports millions of families who don’t have the means to take care of their kids.


27 posted on 05/17/2014 3:34:23 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: CorporateStepsister
The family adopted her in 2008, but a Tennessee appeals court overturned that after McCaul was released from prison . . . In 2009, McCaul won an appeal claiming he did not voluntarily give up his rights and the court did not follow due process in the adoption proceedings.

This did not come out of the blue, in fact it was a year after the improper adoption, and the foster/adoptive parents had time to make this possibility easier for the girl. I'd need to know the details before I could be sure, but I'm not impressed with the foster/adoptive parents. The firearms charge doesn't bother me at all, and there is no clear evidence that he had not turned his life around. It's his daughter, and if the decision were in my hands I'd probably make that the deciding factor.

28 posted on 05/17/2014 4:15:14 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Michael.SF.

I know. one family, then a different family, then the other family again. Who cares if it makes the poor child dizzy, scared, insecure... right?!


29 posted on 05/17/2014 6:22:54 AM PDT by Shimmer1
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To: CorporateStepsister
The parent who works and pays the majority of the bills should be the one with primary custody.

That standard is too arbitrary. Many adults voluntarily give up career to care for their children as an agreement within their marriage, only to have the breadwinner later hook up with another person and then try to take the children away -- "change partners and dance" -- as if the marriage and childcare agreement never existed. Yet children do so much better if at least one parent can focus on their development instead of shuttling them off to a series of paid "caregivers".

The fact is, God hates divorce. He also advises against premarital sex. That way, people don't just get involved and then try to decide if they are the right partners to go the distance with each other. But that's the modern way. Grown people with no morals think they can have it all -- uncommitted sex, personal advancement, preferences and whims, with no sacrifice. Then they hit a bump in the road and start ripping up their children's lives and breaking their hearts, permanently.

Just no.

30 posted on 05/17/2014 6:35:58 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Shimmer1

So, it takes a village?


31 posted on 05/17/2014 6:53:01 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison)
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To: Shimmer1
I did glance at it but I obviously missed that.

It's a sad story. Someone told me they had to quit the State Youth Authority in disgust over these kinds of injustices and abuses.

Unless the feds are mucked up in it, the people of a state have direct power to deal with, correct, and/or overturn wrongful state programs. IMO, the best laws and government are the least laws and government. But it’s up to the people of each state to decide that.

The people of our great country need to wake up out of their death-sleep and assert their rights and freedoms as owners of their own destinies and shake off federal AND state governmental abuse.

32 posted on 05/17/2014 7:57:32 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Michael.SF.
This is what happens when children are treated as property.

If my math is correct, she was three when placed with the foster parents. So the American judicial system says it is "just" to rip a 9-year-old child from the only family she has ever known -- in her eyes, her mom and dad -- and return her to a convicted felon who she doesn't know.

To me, this is an unspeakably cruel thing to do to a child ... unless, of course, one holds blood above family and considers her the "property" of the felon.

33 posted on 05/17/2014 8:13:44 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: PapaNew

They did adopt her. The adoption was overturned when the dad-— who never consented to the adoption — got his prison sentence was commuted.


34 posted on 05/17/2014 8:33:26 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" - Jeremiah 17:9)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I glanced at the story but missed that.

It's a sad story. Someone told me they had to quit the State Youth Authority in disgust over these kinds of injustices and abuses.

Unless the feds are mucked up in it, the people of a state have direct power to deal with, correct, and/or overturn wrongful state programs. IMO, the best laws and government are the least laws and government. But it’s up to the people of each state to decide that.

The people of our great country need to wake up out of their death-sleep and assert their rights and freedoms as owners of their own destinies and shake off federal AND state governmental abuse.

35 posted on 05/17/2014 8:38:48 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Albion Wilde

“only to have the breadwinner later hook up with another person and then try to take the children away — “change partners and dance” — as if the marriage and childcare agreement never existed.”

In fact, I think if a spouse commits adultery, that should be a custody breaker right there; how on earth can a parent who puts the life of their spouse in danger (mistresses/lovers of married people have been notorious for being the murderer of the wife/husband of their lovers) and have custody yanked and also, have visitations limited.

Adultery has been one of the top reasons that people get killed; the wife or husband fools around, the lover ends up killing the spouse of their lover. Like for example, Carolyn Warmus murdered the wife of her lover, hoping to become the next spouse.

As for this mess, I hope the kid finds some kind of peace and someone should be listening to what the kid wants, not what the moron judge wants.


36 posted on 05/17/2014 12:37:22 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: PapaNew

and once again, the tyranny of good intentions by the government henchmen.......


37 posted on 05/17/2014 3:03:48 PM PDT by Shimmer1
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To: Michael.SF.

When did I say anything vaguely like that??


38 posted on 05/17/2014 3:04:42 PM PDT by Shimmer1
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To: babygene

You read it wrong BabyGene. They did.


39 posted on 05/17/2014 3:05:38 PM PDT by Shimmer1
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To: Shimmer1

“You read it wrong BabyGene. They did.”

However, the adoption was flawed... So it’s the same thing.

It’s “what’s best for the kid” what a lot of people seem to think is important. It’s not. The parental right should trump the child’s right every time. If it were what’s best for the kid, then virtually any kid could be taken from the parents because another family could give it more toys at Christmas.

It is really the parental bond with the child that is the glue that holds society together. Not the other way around. There is no real bond on the side of the child.


40 posted on 05/17/2014 3:29:47 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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