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I have an idea for a smart phone application. Where do I start?
5/27/2014 | killermosquito

Posted on 05/27/2014 7:27:35 AM PDT by killermosquito

I have an idea for a smart phone app. Does any freepers have any experience doing that?

I'm curious to know if charging for the app or selling advertising in the app makes more sense.


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KEYWORDS: apps
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I agree, I can’t imagine why anyone would be developing in VB, but like it or not that’s to MS we have a derivative language designed for folks to learn how to program running a lot of crap in the field, and folks won’t be ending it sadly anytime soon.

Thanks for the clarification on VBA.


41 posted on 05/27/2014 8:47:44 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

As one of those people that have and use a windows phone, (I’m using it to post this) it would be nice if there were more apps for it.


42 posted on 05/27/2014 9:31:36 AM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Kirkwood

Kirkwood, since you have created phone apps, what tools did you use?

It seems that some of the advise I’m being given here is valid.


43 posted on 05/27/2014 10:15:34 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: LostPassword

LostPassword, it seems that I would be creating a native app that does not require the web or access to any of the phone features.


44 posted on 05/27/2014 10:16:49 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: HamiltonJay

It seems that I would be creating a native app that does not require the web or access to any of the phone features.

My idea seems like a simple thing to create but I don’t want to add so many features that it goes overboard.


45 posted on 05/27/2014 10:19:38 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: killermosquito; petercooper; PissAndVinegar; justlurking; Phillyred; ImJustAnotherOkie; Kirkwood; ..

Questions:

It sounds like if it is created in Javascript and HTML that it might run on on any platform. Is that true?

Are apps patented?

I wasn’t expecting that I would create something in VBA or VB. I was just indicating that I’m not a complete stranger to coding.

The app would not require a network or internet connection.

Those of you who have created apps? Name names...where can I (we) find your apps? Care to share some links?


46 posted on 05/27/2014 10:21:10 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: F15Eagle

If you’re thinking patents, remember, it’s now first to file.


47 posted on 05/27/2014 10:23:50 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: F15Eagle

Apologies for double-teaming. Didn’t read past your post #3 nor check existing responses. Will do in the future.

Have a great day, FRiend.


49 posted on 05/27/2014 10:40:56 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: killermosquito

I earn money doing that, so I don’t give free advice of such a specific nature. However I will suggest you spend a week viewing youtube tutorials and various websites for background info, and then spend a few months learning how to code whatever approach you decide to take. There are multiple approaches, some very difficult and some quite easy, but each has good and bad points.


51 posted on 05/27/2014 10:44:24 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: killermosquito
It sounds like if it is created in Javascript and HTML that it might run on on any platform. Is that true?

If you do that, it's not a mobile app. It's a mobile website. The entire application is loaded from the web server, and run inside the mobile device's web browser.

On iOS, the browser is most likely Safari. On Android, I'm not sure what is the default browser -- perhaps Chrome?

Are apps patented?

You don't patent an application. You can patent a unique functionality, that can be implemented in your application. Depending on the application, that unique functionality might include most of the application's features, or it might only be a part of it.

The app would not require a network or internet connection.

If you create it in Javascript/HTML, it will require a network connection, even if only to get started.

Those of you who have created apps? Name names...where can I (we) find your apps? Care to share some links?

No.

52 posted on 05/27/2014 10:46:29 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: killermosquito
If you are programming for an iOS (Apple) device, I'd highly recommend lynda.com tutorials. I had a little Visual Basic and some C++ from way back and was able to jump into Objective-C and the X-Code interface without too much trouble.

You need a Macbook laptop to program on. The lynda tutorials are $30 month for unlimited viewing. If you can swing those costs, it's a fairly cheap education. Good luck!

53 posted on 05/27/2014 10:55:41 AM PDT by Textide
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To: killermosquito

I will also say that you need to think through the entire process of your project before you even start. This includes not only how the app looks and behaves, but also how you will market and sell it. Unless you get everything figured out ahead of time, you will waste much time and probably have to restart several times. Fortunately, you don’t have to spend any money to build apps. Everything you need is free, although you can spend some money to make it easier if you want to.

I have patents on software algorithms, but the code is not worth patenting. It is the algorithm that is your IP and that you try to protect. Also, all of your code is open to anyone to look at. There are ways to build and use algorithms and also protect them behind the code, but that is for you to figure out.


54 posted on 05/27/2014 11:04:46 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: HamiltonJay
then you can try to make money selling it to the 10 people that actually own a windows phone.


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55 posted on 05/27/2014 11:20:03 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: UCANSEE2

Or you could be a ‘community organizer’...


56 posted on 05/27/2014 11:23:46 AM PDT by walldog
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To: Don W

I am sure it would, I write apps and honestly have had MS directly contact me to try to get me to port some of them, I did the numbers it wasn’t worth the effort. The user base is too small to be relevant I am better off focusing my efforts where they make money.


57 posted on 05/27/2014 12:56:56 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: killermosquito

Well if you believe in the idea, and don’t have the personal skills to write it yourself, just go over to oDesk or a site like that and hire a programmer to write it for you.

Otherwise, you need to invest the time, effort and energy to learn how to do it yourself.


58 posted on 05/27/2014 12:58:24 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: cynwoody

Windows phone is somewhere around 5% of the total market, and that number isn’t likely to change anytime soon.... Folks are free to write apps for these devices, but reality is there is no significant money to be made.... The user base is to small... So at best you will get afterthought ports or hobbiests writing things.

Or MS will just have to keep cutting checks to folks like Rovio to make sure they make a port for their devices to keep them from becoming even more irrelevant.


59 posted on 05/27/2014 1:03:33 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Lazamataz

“What about me who has no ideas, no talent, no money, and no social skills? What do I do?”

Run for political office like the other bums.


60 posted on 05/27/2014 4:03:30 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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