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Fasting for three days can regenerate entire immune system, study finds
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 7:51PM BST 05 Jun 2014 | Sarah Knapton

Posted on 06/06/2014 4:04:55 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Fasting for as little as three days can regenerate the entire immune system, even in the elderly, scientists have found in a breakthrough described as “remarkable”.

Although fasting diets have been criticized by nutritionists for being unhealthy, new research suggests starving the body kick-starts stem cells into producing new white blood cells, which fight off infection.

Scientists at the University of Southern California say the discovery could be particularly beneficial for people suffering from damaged immune systems, such as cancer patients on chemotherapy. […]

Scientists found that prolonged fasting also reduced the enzyme PKA, which is linked to aging and a hormone which increases cancer risk and tumour growth. …

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Food; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: chemotherapy; fasting; immunesystem; pka; regeneration; stemcells; whitebloodcells
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1 posted on 06/06/2014 4:04:55 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Not surprising. The body views fasting as a stressors and act to protect itself by purging garbage from its system.


2 posted on 06/06/2014 4:08:46 AM PDT by Fzob (Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)
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To: Olog-hai

LOL…how long before we read that decreased breathing not only helps fight greenhouse gases, but scientists have found that it grows hair and increases the sex drive”? These studies are the stuff that parody is made of


3 posted on 06/06/2014 4:11:06 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Olog-hai
Well that's good news for school kids as they are already fasting under Mooshelles diet plan.


4 posted on 06/06/2014 4:12:34 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Olog-hai

I understand fasting does wonders for your appetite.


5 posted on 06/06/2014 4:13:13 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Olog-hai
“Scientists found that prolonged fasting also reduced the enzyme PKA, which is linked to ageing and a hormone which increases cancer risk and tumour growth.”

This is an interesting statement.

Even before my mother was diagnosed with cancer, she had already gone off eating, and that was not normal for her. I was worried that she got so little nutrition. I have heard that this is typical in people suffering with cancer.

Maybe, it's a natural reaction of the body to fight the cancer and should be encouraged.

6 posted on 06/06/2014 4:13:40 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Olog-hai

When I stopped eating to lose weight, I was surrounded by people who were convinced that I was committing suicide. I ignored them. I lost weight. I was much healthier than I was when I was overweight.


7 posted on 06/06/2014 4:14:32 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: Savage Beast

I’m not fasting in the sense of the word, but I AM cutting back on my intake of food and I find I am more susceptible to a cold during this globull warming stage of the earth.


8 posted on 06/06/2014 4:21:12 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Savage Beast

How long did you stop eating for and how much did you lose when you “finished?” I’m not surprised people would think you were doing that.


9 posted on 06/06/2014 4:30:44 AM PDT by tenger (It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. -Will Rogers)
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To: knarf
You may be cutting off a Vitamin C item.

They have cough lozenges that fulfill your daily requirement and only have 15 calories.

10 posted on 06/06/2014 4:38:50 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Olog-hai

Well I can hardly fast for 3 hours. Fasting does have its benefits though helping the body rid itself of toxins. Sometimes if I eat a heavy meal the next day is usually light on the food crave. Works for me as all of my life never but a few pounds over ideal weight here and there. French toast breakfast here I come.


11 posted on 06/06/2014 4:39:45 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Savage Beast
Ignoring your kids when your older (I'm 70) is sure a pain in the butt. They forgot we took care of them for 20 years and they survived.

Most of us are fortunate enough to know what we're doing. Why do we have to convince our kids?

12 posted on 06/06/2014 4:43:43 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
We don't.

If anyone has the right to do whatever he damn well pleases it's those who have taken care of their families, children, and themselves and reached retirement age.

One--of many--advantages of old age is the right to say and do whatever you damn well please.

13 posted on 06/06/2014 4:49:17 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: Olog-hai

Our DIL just spent several days in the hospital due to a serious infection. They didn’t feed her for at least three of those days, using an IV to keep her hydrated and administer the super antibiotics etc. She did get better. I just sent them this article.


14 posted on 06/06/2014 4:51:20 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Savage Beast

Old age means shedding moral restraint? or do you just mean outspokenness?


15 posted on 06/06/2014 4:53:33 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: knarf

“I find I am more susceptible to a cold during this globull warming stage of the earth.”

Silver Sol (Silver Biotics, ASAP, Guardian Silver) kills of viruses and bacteria.


16 posted on 06/06/2014 4:54:28 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: txrefugee
There has been an abundance of evidence with lab animals and men, known for many years, that periodic fasting increases life span. The link to the immune system appears to be the new finding here.
17 posted on 06/06/2014 4:56:11 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Olog-hai

Define “scientists” for the purpose of this article. Do they mean scientists in the true sense of the word, or is this another example of verbicide? Are these “scientists” the same “scientists” who claim I am causing global warming?


18 posted on 06/06/2014 4:58:48 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Wagglebee, welcome home we missed you! ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

Sad that science has come to this, hasn’t it. Well, iconoclasty was inevitable, what with leftists making a false god of it. Thanks to the confusion resulting, I sure can’t come up with an answer.


19 posted on 06/06/2014 5:01:00 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Excellence

srbfl


20 posted on 06/06/2014 5:01:29 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: Olog-hai

I’m so confused!

To eat, or not to eat. That is the question. I’ve been fasting for five minutes as I contemplate that question. I believe the answer is... to eat.


21 posted on 06/06/2014 5:05:56 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Wagglebee, welcome home we missed you! ~ Þ)
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To: Olog-hai

bookmark


22 posted on 06/06/2014 5:16:32 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Fresh Wind

I’ve found that after about a day and a half hunger goes away. The first day and a half rough though. For me, eating small amounts is the hardest since I am always hungry.


23 posted on 06/06/2014 5:23:01 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: txrefugee

In all fairness, fasting is mentioned a lot in the Bible. They were doing this long ago. Some scientist probably read the bible and is now trying to claim the idea as his own heh.


24 posted on 06/06/2014 5:35:07 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Her food plan has reached into our hospitals too. Turkey every meal as meat. Pita bread, dry as dust and as tasteless. Bad for the person with Colon issues the CABBAGE family 2 meals a day.

My husband had to feed me from Burger King or Subway the last 3 day hospital stay, the food was that lousy, they even ruined French Toast. Just threw the frozen crap on the plate to thaw, no margarine, no syrup, soggy mess is what I got that day. Blackened Chicken may be to some people’s taste, it is not to mine, to spicy, causes Reflux. turkey meatloaf even a 20 year Navy Vet would not eat. Never saw a slice of bread. Ask for a Plain Turkey sandwich, what did I get PITA bread and some crap on it I don’t know what it was. Undeniable, tasteless garbage. Did I forget to say NO COFFEE or ICE TEA, just fruit juices.

I need 2 cups of coffee before I’m ready to do any thing. Decaf don’t cut it as coffee.


25 posted on 06/06/2014 5:38:31 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promisesI to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Silver has a lot of healing properties, there’s even been cases of massive tumors disappearing when using it. Modern medicine I’m not sure is all about healing. I think it’s more about making cash.


26 posted on 06/06/2014 5:38:35 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Olog-hai

Matt. 6:16 - 18, if Jesus said it then it might be good for you don’t ya think?


27 posted on 06/06/2014 5:38:46 AM PDT by Lake Living
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To: knarf

That would be “globe bull warming”.

It happens every spring as the globe bull warms to the local cow during mating season.

What did you think it was?

:) Rita


28 posted on 06/06/2014 5:40:14 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: freedomfiter2

>>I’ve found that after about a day and a half hunger goes away.

That’s fairly typical. One huge and rarely mentioned benefit of at least a 3 day fast is that the stomach shrinks and afterwards you feel (because you are) full with substantially less intake of food.


29 posted on 06/06/2014 5:45:01 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: BykrBayb

Ping #28 (may clear that up for ya).


30 posted on 06/06/2014 5:45:40 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Olog-hai

I gained the traditional “freshman 15” pounds when I went off to college, so I decided to fast to drop some weight. The first couple of days were tough, but after that, it was an amazing experience. My mind became clearer, I slept better, and my energy levels peaked. Plus, it was an incredible boost to my self-confidence, knowing I had the discipline to impose such a regimen on myself and stick to it. I had to force myself to break the fast after a week.

I don’t know if I could do it again, but I would guess that for the average American, a fast would be a healthy experience.


31 posted on 06/06/2014 5:50:24 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: GailA

Just more fascism from the left and incredibly people keep voting for Democrats. I was reading a story yesterday how this homeowner in Florida keeps getting fined because his house has “violations” - like a torn windscreen on the door or paint peeling and all this other nonsense and he was being fined $250 a day. So as a protest he decided to paint a huge American flag on his house. So I was saying to myself, what is that going to do? Yes it’s great he’s patriotic, but it’s going to do absolutely nothing. What he should do instead is walk around his neighborhood and plead with people to NOT vote Democrats into office! That’s what I do when I get the time. I ask them point blank “Do you like to pay high taxes? Do you like to pay fines? Do you like it when the government scams you out of your money? Do you like it when illegals take jobs meant for your teen kids? Then stop voting for DEMOCRATS!” I tell you, it really works because there is a hell of a lot of naive people out there and those are the ones who vote Democrat. If everyone walked around their neighborhood and talked to people Democrats would be absolutely destroyed in every single election.


32 posted on 06/06/2014 5:51:09 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Olog-hai

Of course we never hear from these unknown scientists what the life span of the ancestors of the fasters was. If their ancestors were killed at an early age by accident, diseases or on purpose, those ancestors should be eliminated from any study. There are a lot more studies showing that when we stop eating or severely reduce our caloric intake, our bodies go into a mode that converts carbs to into fat. That was how our ancient ancestors were able to survive when the hunters/fishers didn’t bag enough game to feed their families.

None of my ancestors on my family tree ever fasted. We had some, who made it to their mid 90’s to over a hundred. The average life span was in their mid 80’s to mid 90’s.

If fasting makes one feel better do it. If it doesn’t, don’t do it.


33 posted on 06/06/2014 5:53:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obama will not divert resources from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: Olog-hai

BS, I’ve been stuck in the hospital on a total liquid diet for 3 days, could not even stomach the pop cycle or jello because of the CHEMS taste, RED DYES are bad, the broth stunk, inch of grease, and so much salt it’d choke a horse.

Needless to the only usable items was the cranberry and apple juice. My salt intake is Highly restricted as it trips you into a Vertigo/Meneire’s attack. I have Meneire’s and OP that makes me a double fall risk, because of the high OP DX score.

Never did a thing for restarting the immune system, still have the same auto immune illnesses. I stay as far away from their drugs as possible. Pure poison to my system. Both my ENDO and PC are pushing these drugs big time. I tried Fosamax sample, it went in the garbage in 4 days. Bone pain was so bad. I live in pain, I don’t need your drugs to cause MORE. And they totally ignore the FDA warnings on OP drugs. If you want the skinny on Lyrica I’ve got the links not a pleasant drug. Should not even be on the market.

With Nexium going OTC at the 20 MG strength the ad is not telling all the facts. Please be aware long term use causes bone density issues and Barret’s Esophagus. Then you need a Upper GI every 2 yrs to monitor it for turning into a cancer.

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34 posted on 06/06/2014 5:56:18 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promisesI to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: IronJack

I remember when it was the ‘freshman 10’. Then I believe it was the freshman 15, then 20. Recently I’ve even read of the ‘freshman 30’.


35 posted on 06/06/2014 5:56:46 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Olog-hai
Well--I don't mean shedding moral restraint. But if I'm outspoken, moral restraint will be something I'll speak out about.

If I do whatever I damn well please, I probably won't do anything I'm not doing right now. I've already done everything--been everywhere--seen everything.

But if anyone doesn't like it because I'm fasting--or whatever I'm doing--TOO BAD! I'm going to do it anyway.

36 posted on 06/06/2014 6:06:50 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: Olog-hai

save


37 posted on 06/06/2014 6:18:10 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Didn’t he sign up for the homeowner’s Association when he bought the house. I live in a Homeowner’s Association that I knew about. I have little sympathy for those that purchase a house in a neighborhood that has one. Really can’t complain after the fact.


38 posted on 06/06/2014 6:18:41 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Governor Scott Walker 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: GailA

BOL!

“My husband had to feed me from Burger King or Subway the last 3 day hospital stay, the food was that lousy, they even ruined French Toast. Just threw the frozen crap on the plate to thaw, no margarine, no syrup, soggy mess is what I got that day. Blackened Chicken may be to some people’s taste, it is not to mine, to spicy, causes Reflux. turkey meatloaf even a 20 year Navy Vet would not eat. Never saw a slice of bread. Ask for a Plain Turkey sandwich, what did I get PITA bread and some crap on it I don’t know what it was. Undeniable, tasteless garbage. Did I forget to say NO COFFEE or ICE TEA, just fruit juices.”

Forty + years ago my wife delivered our second son. Liberal doctors and pseudo scientist dieticians had taken over that hospital’s dietary program. She and her post partum room mate, both nursing mothers were starving.

So I brought in corned beef sandwiches and steak sandwiches with a couple of beers for she and her hospital room mate for dinner for the next two evenings post delivery. Her room mate’s hubbie brought in breakfast and lunch for them. To this day, she feels that I may have saved her life. Before I started bring in the emergency rations, she had lost about 4 pounds after her post delivery weight. In her pregnancies, she never gained more than a couple of pounds over the baby’s weight. She was trim before the pregnancies and had zero body fat before, during and after her pregnancies.

“I need 2 cups of coffee before I’m ready to do any thing. Decaf don’t cut it as coffee.”

At about the same time, pseudo scientists came out and said that regular coffee was bad for us and could kill us. I had a weird and benign heart murmur at times, and the IM I ended up seeing wanted me off coffee* and a no meat diet. Two days into the no coffee*, I had my only chargeable car wreck in my life time of driving. My car struck the car in front of me one morning after decaf in stead of regular coffee. My reflexes were below normal.

We went back to common sense eating and drinking our 2 cups of coffee.

Now we are in our mid 70’s, still love our coffee and our moderate Paleo/Med without the pasta eating habits/diets.

*The pseudo scientists at that time, including my soon fired IM/MD told us that coffee was an evil and dangerous drink. Now, we know that coffee, again in moderation, may be one of the healthiest drinks for most of us. The decafing process when chemicals are used, probably makes decaf coffee a dangerous brew to drink.


39 posted on 06/06/2014 6:20:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obama will not divert resources from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: RitaOK

Now that you mention it, I think I heard that during this globe bull/cow mating ritual, they (male and female) secrete methane bubbles (big greasy ones) to make the process go more smoothly. The unused bubbles rise up in the air like balloons, and poke holes in the ozone. If this continues at its current rate, the sky will fall within the next two or three years.


40 posted on 06/06/2014 6:36:43 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Wagglebee, welcome home we missed you! ~ Þ)
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To: Olog-hai

I went to the link and a sound bite popped up. The fasting they talked about was not a fast devoid of all food, but a temporary reduction in calories. A person eats normally for 5 days, and then for 2-3 days, they drop their caloric intake to 500 calories per day.

In my opinion, if done correctly, it can actually be a boost to the system IF on those fasting days a person consumes only vegetables. Nice, garden fresh, organic veggies!

Do you know how many veggies you’d have to eat before you consume 500 calories worth??? Well, you wouldn’t be hungry during those fast days, and you’d be filling your body with good nutrition, vitamins, minerals instead of corn chips, snickers bars, and soda pop.

A person’s body couldn’t help but respond in a positive manner with an influx of goodies like that. Add a lot of fresh clean water to that diet, and you flush out garbage, and rehydrate your body.

Add some vigorous fun play to this, and you have a recipe for good health.
I think it just depends on how you handle it.


41 posted on 06/06/2014 6:48:15 AM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: Olog-hai

One size does not fit all. Some individuals may benefit by fasting while it may be the wrong thing for others. Only you know if it is benefical to your health.

First let me say this. As type-1 diabetic, I must eat several small meals each day. Fasting would upset the regimen which I use to keep my blood sugar under control.

As I am now an older person, I have observed many elderly people (my grand parents, older friends, etc.) before me tended to eat less as they aged, smaller portions and maybe once or twice per day. This seemed to me to be good.

Often the foods they ate were easy-fix, out of a can, or quickly prepared (freezer/microwave) rather than balanced and nutritious. Not so good.

I am a cancer survivor, and I lost 70 pounds in the month during which I was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. I worked 14 hour days and ate on the run, and I paid dearly for it.

The common denominator I observed among cancer patients was they lost weight and started to “wither” away. They lost appetite and ate little or the wrong things nutritionally.

I have noticed the key is appetite and nutritious food. Those with an appetite and who eat nutritionally balanced meals on a regular basis seem to me stay healthier or at least alive (some days I wonder) as they age.

Finally, I stress exercise (piddling I call it) as the most important element along with nutrition to me. Sometimes, when I don’t want to eat, but must (for blood sugar control); and want to sit around on the computer (Free Republic can kill a lot of time) all day; I go out and busy myself (exercise) about 4 - 5 hours each day in the garden and workshop and feel renewed.

If I were not diabetic, I would try fasting as it is mentioned in the Bible to be beneficial.


42 posted on 06/06/2014 6:48:18 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: BykrBayb

What about study methodology details? Any report of a “study” that leaves out the nuts and bolts of the methodology isn’t worth reading.

I assume these are left out of the story because

A) the writer is the typical lazy and/or semi literate, incapable of transcribing what he can’t understand

or

B) it has been left out because it doesn’t meet *real* standards of scientific research (99% of what you read about “studies” in general news publications)

Graduate students giving questionnaires to 25 college freshmen does not constitute science. Not for anyone but the EPA, anyway.


43 posted on 06/06/2014 6:52:42 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Olog-hai

I can’t even imagine how bad my headache would be if I didn’t eat for 3 days! I am sure I would pass out from the pain.


44 posted on 06/06/2014 6:52:57 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: txrefugee

It makes sense to me. One of the effects of being seriously ill is usually a loss of appetite. Maybe your body is telling you something?


45 posted on 06/06/2014 7:03:09 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: Grampa Dave

My FORMER Internist insisted on medicating Cholesterol out of your body. He OD’d hubby on 80 mg Crestor, 40 mg is max for a Senior. Wanted us to go Vegan. We are in our 60’s 70’s. Not going to change the Paleo diet we like. I did concede to use olive oil and cooking sprays, no battered fried meats, they are now an occasional eat out treat. Breads, are the least things we eat.

He kept prescribing me drugs I could not take. Never looked at my side effect list which is a full typed sheet long. Or whether or not it influenced how the most important Hormone I take Synthroid, is effected. Drove my thyroid crazy. Finally had to find a ENDO to fix his screw up. 3 of my health conditions are MEDICINE CAUSED!

I always find the nurses stash of coffee.


46 posted on 06/06/2014 7:16:12 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promisesI to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: Olog-hai; BykrBayb; txrefugee; hinckley buzzard; GrandJediMasterYoda
Thanks for posting, Olog-hai.

I can understand the cynicism of some on this thread re science when we have dishonest scientists trying to feather their own nests with global warming dollars; but Valter Longo is a serious scientist and his papers on this and other subjects are excellent.

Click here for his pubs on fasting, chemotherapy and the immune system.

47 posted on 06/06/2014 7:36:30 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Black Agnes

Ping...


48 posted on 06/06/2014 7:36:57 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy

Hey, I thought I pinged you!

I can believe this. I’ve tried it before. The first day or so was really rough. When I woke up on the morning of the 4th day I felt fantastic! I haven’t done this since I had my kids though, perhaps it’s time to do it again.


49 posted on 06/06/2014 7:38:29 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

...and all you had was water, right?


50 posted on 06/06/2014 8:15:36 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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