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UFOs and Progressives, why any disclosure will never happen with progressives in power. ~ Vanity
GraceG

Posted on 06/09/2014 3:24:32 PM PDT by GraceG

Recently I was looking around on some of the conspiracy UFO kook sites out there (hey don't judge me, it is a hobby, I take it all with a rather large grain of salt but find the theories fascinating) and recently one thing that totally amazed me. When I was looking at very old threads around the 2008/2009 time frame there were a lot of threads that were giddy with the anticipation that Obama if elected and after he was elected would be at the forefront of disclosing the "Truth about UFOs".

Many of the threads said how finally we would have the government's files on UFOs opened up and we would know all about all that crazy area 51 stuff. Because you see the liberals were all suppsedly about "Transparency" and what not and so forth...

Of course the morons that posted such things conveiniently ignore the entire premise of liberal Progresivism: The Progressives want to RUN your LIFE.

So given that there is stuff up in the skies that the government cannot control and a government that wants to control YOUR life, why would they ever disclose that there is stuff flying around up there that they don't have ANY control over if they want to also control YOUR life....

" They want to control our lives, but they cannot control our own skies.... "

The government admitting there is some other force out there screwing with people and abducting Bubba to insert things up his rump like some Chicago Bathouse customer would seriously undermine the entire Liberal Agenda. The agenda of claiming that they are so smart that they can run your life and tell you how to live, what to eat, and how much you can make...

I find it funny that a lot of the people on those threads who whine about disclosure are now somewhat sour and getting more bitter on Obama, some are holding out for their precious savior and thinking he will disclose on his way out in 2016....

Fat Chance, as fat and the first lady after a pizza binge...

Any "Progressive Control Freak Statist" would never disclose jack quat, because admitting there is stuff we cannot control up there would seriously undermine their whole philosophy to their personal power through government by controlling YOUR life.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: aliens; disclosure; progressives; ufo
Just a few thoughts I had.
1 posted on 06/09/2014 3:24:32 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

The “progressive”s would love to have ETs show up.

It would afford a golden opportunity to institute world government and complete control of everything.

And I do mean everything.


2 posted on 06/09/2014 3:28:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

[ The “progressive”s would love to have ETs show up.

It would afford a golden opportunity to institute world government and complete control of everything.

And I do mean everything. ]

Oh no doubt on that at all...

Of course knowing progressives they would probably demand that ET be taxed to pay for social programs should ET have anythign resembling free markets...


3 posted on 06/09/2014 3:30:27 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: BenLurkin

UFOlogy is a repected branch of research. But, your right, Progs will never admit to anything they do not accept—Global Warming, National race prejudice, Social Justice—these fantasies do exist for them—but UFOs God or Patriotism are not real—only world government and the purity of the UN.


4 posted on 06/09/2014 3:32:12 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: GraceG
He's illegal too.
5 posted on 06/09/2014 3:36:59 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: GraceG
When I was looking at very old threads around the 2008/2009 time frame there were a lot of threads that were giddy with the anticipation that Obama if elected and after he was elected would be at the forefront of disclosing the "Truth about UFOs."

LOL he was supposed to pay our delinquent mortgages, too.

6 posted on 06/09/2014 3:39:17 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: GraceG

Nobody will ever disclose. It got privatized two generations ago or more.


7 posted on 06/09/2014 3:39:56 PM PDT by rotstan
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To: GraceG
Wouldn't any government would want to conceal the idea that alien reptile lizards or whatever held the real power on earth in their claws?

So, sure, liberals or progressives wouldn't reveal that if it were true, but no government would -- if only to avoid popular panic.

It is a little interesting though, that one of the first things Carter and Clinton wanted to do when they took over was get their hands on the UFO files.

8 posted on 06/09/2014 3:40:41 PM PDT by x
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To: GraceG
Fun topic!

That said, John Podesta (the evil one) is, or at least was, determined to get the hidden UFO files released.

So far, nothing though.

9 posted on 06/09/2014 3:46:42 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

[ That said, John Podesta (the evil one) is, or at least was, determined to get the hidden UFO files released. ]

Probably just posturing to appeal to the nut bar liberal base.


10 posted on 06/09/2014 3:48:07 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: rotstan

[ Nobody will ever disclose. It got privatized two generations ago or more. ]

That could explain how and why efficient the coverup has been, I don’t think government could even cover it’s own rear end...


11 posted on 06/09/2014 3:49:43 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: x

Whatever (if anything) is in control of the real UFO and alien information must have a hell of a deterrent factor behind to stop a traitor like bubba krinton from selling out.


12 posted on 06/09/2014 3:51:48 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.q)
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To: BenLurkin

Paul Krugman actually suggested faking an alien invasion as a means for the fascist scum to seize all the wealth.


13 posted on 06/09/2014 3:54:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: rotstan

“Nobody will ever disclose.”
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It will not be disclosed because there is NOTHING to disclose.
If ET exist anywhere, he is many light years away.....just my opinion.


14 posted on 06/09/2014 3:55:10 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: GraceG

I think Podesta was genuinely interested. He’s not an elected official.


15 posted on 06/09/2014 3:59:06 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: GraceG

How about this going on over Mt. Adams?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XER53PjPPpE


16 posted on 06/09/2014 4:01:10 PM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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To: x

Gerald Ford, RINO harbinger, has also expressed fascination with UFOs. Fascination with UFOs is arguably the only reason why Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul, and Mike Gravel have run for President.

There are several reasons why both right thinking people and liberal moonbats have good reason to study UFOs and the government reaction to them. To moonbats, extraterrestrials make an excellent excuse to attack anthropocentrism, and by their conception Christianity. Moonbats are also fascinated with advanced weapons of mass destruction, as those would make the body politic far easier to control.

To conservatives, UFOs represent complete lack of transparency on the government’s part, given that the government refuses to give proper explanations for the 1942 Battle of L.A. (even though extraterrestrials are likely not responsible for those events).


17 posted on 06/09/2014 4:02:54 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: BenLurkin
The “progressive”s would love to have ETs show up.

I ain't no progressive but I'd love for ET's to show up. They just might have some knock down walleye lures for sale or some yummy BBQ recipes that don't involve humans..........and lets not forget some fresh perch recipes.

18 posted on 06/09/2014 4:06:45 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (By now, everyone should know that you shoot a zombie in the head. Don't try to reason with them...)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

This must be where OB came from:
http://www.realufos.net/2011/07/new-ufo-sighting-at-eceti-ranch-in.html


19 posted on 06/09/2014 4:11:07 PM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Man...you are an optimist!
20 posted on 06/09/2014 4:12:02 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Objective Scrutator

1942 Battle of L.A is extremely overhyped. It wasn’t anything more than a bunch o jittery AA batteries shooting at nothing.

My grandfather was an air raid warden at the time and the only thing remarkable was that a piece of shrapnel fell close enough to where he could pick it.


21 posted on 06/09/2014 4:15:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: GraceG
It's not so surprising since there is supposedly photographic evidence of Obama visiting Mars as a teenager.

There's a time portal (or used to be) located not too far from LAX that he might have used along with others to make the trip.

Maybe the liberals are so "smart" because they are in constant contact with higher beings that really do know what's best for us.

Maybe the reason so many people have shifted so quickly on gay marriage is because a lot more people are being abducted and probed than we thought and they've gotten used to getting reamed.

22 posted on 06/09/2014 4:16:07 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: BenLurkin
Man...you are an optimist!

Perhaps, but there's no reason to believe they aren't viewing our planet as a new fishing spot.........

23 posted on 06/09/2014 4:16:25 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (By now, everyone should know that you shoot a zombie in the head. Don't try to reason with them...)
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To: GraceG

Ask them if Snowden is in on the UFO coverup since he has not leaked those hidden documents...


24 posted on 06/09/2014 4:18:15 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: BenLurkin

I certainly agree with you that the cause isn’t in any doubt, I’m just confused why the federal government was so reluctant to admit any responsibility. It apparently took them until 1983 to admit the truth.


25 posted on 06/09/2014 4:29:22 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: GraceG
There's always been the assumption that "Aliens" that came to earth would have some superior intelligence.

I think that is a flawed assumption.

As an example, when automobiles were first introduced you needed to either, be a mechanic or have a mechanic riding with you. Today, any idiot can drive a car, and some cars will even parallel park for you. Much of the same can be said for airline pilots.

 photo morons-from-outer-space-movie-poster-1985-1020213076_zps392323e6.jpg

26 posted on 06/09/2014 4:32:36 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: GraceG
Just a few thoughts I had.

And written in a most entertaining fashion! :^)

Have you read Gordon Cooper's "Leap of Faith"?

Very enlightening. Worth it alone for his scathing and right indictment of U.S. Senator Wm. Proxmire, a Wisconsin Democrat and member of the Budget & Space Committee, who used his influence to de-fund the Saturn rocket program and its Mars mission. Proxmire was so vindictive that he had all of the machinery and tooling for these incredible machines and rocketry, destroyed, perfectly good stuff, so the program couldn't be revived. Cooper really comes down on him and the whole liberal administration that let America's lead in space tech be wantonly trashed.

Cooper's take on UFOs is also interesting.

27 posted on 06/09/2014 5:33:13 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: GraceG

Yeah and the same thing was supposed to happen when Clinton was elected. Can you imagine an alien landing now in the US and saying, take me to your leader ? My first response would be, are you sure you wanna go there ?


28 posted on 06/09/2014 5:35:45 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Finny

If only Proxmire could have gotten to see the exhaust of a Saturn 5 close up, he might have had a little respect for it, if only a couple of seconds.

People like him would have the rest of us living in mud huts and applying for permits to have fires.


29 posted on 06/09/2014 5:48:41 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.q)
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To: wally_bert
People like him would have the rest of us living in mud huts and applying for permits to have fires.

Oh, man, don't get me started -- oops, too late! In the picture-postcard pretty fishing town where I grew up, families and kids had free access to a gigantic dune sandspit separating ocean from bay, for camping or tromping across to go surfing, or whatever. Nobody ever got hurt or in any kind of trouble over there, and it was a great resource for enjoying a pretty place, why not? Today, THEY REGULATE IT OUT OF BOUNDS. Now except for tightly controlled trails, it is "protected" by pistol-packing Fish n Game types. You can't even get a permit to enjoy a natural resource! GRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrr ...........

30 posted on 06/09/2014 6:17:04 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

Even as a kid of the 70s and 80s, I remember and appreciate how much freer things were in general.


31 posted on 06/09/2014 6:38:44 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.q)
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To: GraceG

32 posted on 06/09/2014 7:25:28 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: GraceG

I;m no expert on the matter, but it seems to me that the UFO sects that have sprung up have a distinctly leftist tilt.


33 posted on 06/09/2014 7:56:32 PM PDT by chesley
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To: Finny

[ Cooper’s take on UFOs is also interesting. ]

My take is that there is weird stuff in the sky we can;t explain yet if ever and the government is denying that they cannot do anything about it.

As for the stuff in the sky actually being aliens or whatnot, I will be skeptical until ET gives me a ride in a saucer :)


34 posted on 06/09/2014 8:10:43 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Finny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc

Gordon Cooper on UFOs


35 posted on 06/09/2014 8:14:05 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG
If you know how to cross hundreds or thousands of light years to get here, you don't need our permission to show yourselves.

"Disclosure" is such an arrogant concept it's silly.

BTW, for those of you who still think it's all kooky, look at this NASA film:

NASA UFOs: STS-75 The Tether Incident

36 posted on 06/09/2014 9:21:38 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Wow! Wild seeing him say what he wrote about in the book!

Hey, if we all of us here live out long natural lives and the UFO question is as vague when we meet our Maker as it is now, I'll be happy. Skeptics post that graphic, "I want to believe." Hah. Not me. But it isn't about what I do or don't want to believe.

Both our entire political and material worlds would shift so profoundly in a matter of nanoseconds once their "presence" was officially announced -- no going back to yesterday -- that I'd just as soon leave that to future generations. Jesus will be their savior then as surely as He is now.

We've got enough worries.

37 posted on 06/09/2014 11:18:02 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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