Skip to comments.What happens when a $35,000 Tesla arrives?
Posted on 07/21/2014 7:37:53 AM PDT by BenLurkin
Tesla said this week that its $35,000 entry, due in 2017 (or thereabouts), will be called the Model 3. One of the keys to making a cheaper Tesla is battery technology, as CEO Elon Musk pointed out to Auto Express earlier in the week.
I chatted with John Voelcker, senior editor for High Gear Media, which publishes Green Car Reports, in the wake of the news. He offered insight into what impact a lower-priced Tesla might have.
Q: Tesla has sold very pricey cars to date. How might a $35,000 Model 3 shake things up?
John Voelcker: A list price of $35,000 is a very nice place to be as compared to the current Model S, which is selling well for its category, but this is a category that starts at $70,000 and goes up to six figures. So, if Tesla can in fact introduce the Model 3, as it's now called, at a base price of $35,000 with a 200-mile electric range, that will take them into a whole new order of magnitude of volume.
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Still to expensive.
35K is still a “luxury” car.
I want gas, and pistons, and cams, and horsepower.
Many libs will trade their Priuses in for Teslas?
To be honest $35k is still too expensive. Model S is marketed as $70k, but its really $100k to get a good version. So I suspect it will cost $50k to get a good version. 3 years is very optimistic. I suspect 5-10 years before we see affordable tesla cars
And I doubt there’s any such thing as a used electric car.
$35k is barely above the price of the $32k average car.
Elon Musk just came out in support of destroying the Patent system. Said garage tinkerers, etc, with new ideas should just take them to a big company, seeking employment in return.
Now, the guy did walk the talk by releasing all of Tesla’s patents. But at this stage of the game he can afford to, right?
I want horsepower, and quick refueling.
Where's my nuclear powered car?
Yeah... most people don’t spend more than $1500 in gas, even with today’s prices.
It is for me. I own 2 Hyundai Sonatas, 04 & 07.
Will you just look at that S car go!
I believe the patent system needs serious reform.
In a SHTF situation, you can’t even barter, borrow or steal electricity unless it’s with a generator and some gas.
So, you are stuck. It’s just easier to BBS the gas than it is to BBS gas for a generator.
It’s like I really want 50 million Americans with their little EBT ECars out there getting electricity supplements for charging their eHoopties.
Nope, they can keep them.
If I had a house fixed up with a windmill in the backyard and solar panels on the house....with all my power requirements contained within my reach....and my job was only fifteen miles away....YEAH, I’d buy one. I admit...the battery replacement cost is going to be a ‘bear’ to handle, and there’s probably some $1,000 disposal cost related to them. But if I could drive to work and have zero cost related to fuel....it’d probably convince me to go this way.
Might be a great car, I dunno. But my observations definitely aren't positive.
Fire extinguisher sales will skyrocket?
Plenty of room for you, your passenger, and storage for 2 sets of golf clubs.
All of that can be achieved for less than the Tesla price. You would be paying for the name ‘Tesla’, not the ability to drive an electric vehicle.
Our town car is a $12,000 Toyota Yaris.
You could have added "with thanks to Pete Barbutti for the joke" - if you're old enough to remember him, that is...
Until the Tesla’s can be recharged in roughly the same amount of time as a gasoline fill-up they will always be a luxury because they are not suitable to be a person’s only transportation. You always have to have another gasoline car in case you don’t have time to charge up the EV.
Tesla Model S hacked in Chinese security contest
$1500 won’t even get you the charging station. Where will the electricity come from, especially in California and Minnesota where they want to close all the coal plants?
With the optional battery pack, the model S will do 0-60 in 4.0 seconds, the quarter mile in 12.4 seconds at 112.5 mph.
Depends on the styling... The Model S is a gorgeous car. If the Model 3 looks like a Leaf it won’t be a blockbuster. TSLA, Musk, Space X are all good at design so I’m expecting it to be a good looking vehicle.
Hell of a good move by Musk although not for altruistic purposes. He opened up his patents in order to have people accept them as the defacto standard thereby driving volume to his planned gigafactory.
Lol. Right. That is what you want them to think. Most Americans can’t afford $35K for a car.
I see dozens a week... Have a few friends who own them. All say they are the best cars they have ever owned (one traded a Porsche Panemara and one traded a Mercedes S 500).
The British top gear guys say electric powered cars is a dead technology...........that’s good enough for me.
Yup, the altruism is just spin.
Musk got what he needed out of the patent system. Now that it poses an obstacle to him ...
35K will buy me 35 of the cars I normally buy...
I normally get 2 years out of a 1000 dollar car.
I see no use for the model 3.
What was his reasoning? I’m intrigued by the Japanese hydrogen powered cars. http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/06/toyota-takes-aim-at-tesla-motors-inc-with-hydrogen-car/
The same factors which make wind and solar power so difficult to cost-effectively utilize make electric cars make sense.
With wind, solar and nuclear, you aren’t paying for raw materials; you’re paying for facilities construction and maintenance. The problem is that wind and solar production doesn’t necessarily coincide with demand. (Solar production peaks 3 hours before demand, and God knows when wind production will peak.) You need some sort of battery or battery analog to store the produced energy until it’s needed. But no battery or battery analog has been economically feasible.
On the other hand, mobile power sources are very expensive. So expensive, that we continue to rely on obscenely expensive petroleum combustion for most mobile power sources.
What electric cars essentially do is use the fact that petroleum combustion is so expensive to make it economically feasible to use a mobile power source (your car) as a battery for poorly utilized energy produced during off-peak demand hours.
Not to mention that the electrical grid cannot handle 50 million electric cars plugged in all at once.
yup, I would own a model s if it came with a 500+ HP petrol engine.
Actually, Musk would be more useful to creating a healthier economy if he made it clear that he was NOT being altruistic. Far better that he demonstrate that government-protected productivity dampening is a lose-lose all around, and make clear that he intends to profit off of releasing the patents.
The existence of shale gas and fracked oil production, despite government assistance to develop it further into self-sustaining heights, will continue to enable higher efficiency methods of energy conversion (combustion vs electric)to be predominant.
The only way for electric/battery to get a bigger foothold and to even begin to compete is if Government spends massive amounts of other peoples’ money to allow a select smaller subset of people to pursue their whimsy via subsidies.
Even the poor (they have to get to their mythical jobs, to the drug store to get their medicines, to take their chilruns to skrool, etc.) would need one of these eHoopties. And they’d need to gubmint to pay for it and to pay for running it, too.
They are not driving the right cars..
my current 1000 dollar car is a 2009 Chevy Uplander. It does have a prior salvage title, and I spent 300 bucks at the pick-a-part yard pulling the needed body parts (in the same color) to fix it. but I don’t think it looks to bad. it was a light front end hit, they hit a deer. cost me a bumper, left fender, hood and headlight. Total spent 1050 dollars.
job 15 miles away? take a bike. Tesla has between charge range from 150-225
I agree. Until they can charge the car in 10 minutes, cross county would be a real time drag.
I see Teslas in LA Orange Co and San Diego all the time.
They look good.
I hope they sell enough to keep the R&D going.
When the advantages outweigh the gas powered, they will have something. I’m thinking 10 years, if they can hold on.
If they will be eligible for the free charging then 35k is a steal.
And who pays for the free charge?
And it is still way out of the range of most consumers. Below $20K is compelling. $35K is not.
The neat feature of electric car batteries is they have a limited number of recharge cycles they can stand, built in drop dead date. But, if you do not use it (park it and do not use it for a while) it dies even more quickly.
Battling this “feature” right now with a relative’s car. She was going to save so much money not having to buy gasoline,...LOL!
Gotta let the market work it’s magic. When a good cheap efficient electric car is built people will buy it. But for now I’ll take an F-type Jag please.
how much is a battery replacement and what kind of car doe she have?
I show the F type at 50,000 and up. Is that your cheap, efficient car?
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