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Israeli Shells Said to Hit School in Gaza, Killing at Least 20
ny times ^ | 7-30-2014 | BEN HUBBARD and JODI RUDOREN

Posted on 07/30/2014 6:03:38 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

“What we’ve seen in our shelters is indicative of what we’ve seen more generally,” Mr. Turner said. “When they started naval bombardment, artillery and tank fire, that’s just not as accurate as airstrikes. They can’t see what they’re shooting at, so we’ve seen more destruction, more damage, more death.”

Mr. Turner of the United Nations said his agency had provided the GPS coordinates of the school to the Israel Defense Forces 17 times, starting July 16 and most recently Tuesday at 8:48 p.m., to ensure it would be spared. Ziad Yousef, who also works for the agency, said the doors were locked at 11 p.m. Tuesday so no one could come or go.

“People who saw that happen are now convinced there are no safe places left,” Mr. Yousef said.

At least four strikes hit in close succession in a straight line across the school compound, indicating artillery fire, according to people who saw the attack; one struck a house behind the school. The drop ceiling of one classroom had collapsed, and the tin roof was peppered with shrapnel holes. The ground was covered with rubble, clothing and pools of blood. Sunlight shone through a hole in the roof of another classroom, also hit by a shell.

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1 posted on 07/30/2014 6:03:38 AM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

“Said” by whom?


2 posted on 07/30/2014 6:04:57 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Citizen Zed

Why the hell is the UN putting these kids in Gaza. Geez...


3 posted on 07/30/2014 6:05:03 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Citizen Zed

How many anti-aircraft batteries and rocket launchers were at this “school”?


4 posted on 07/30/2014 6:07:15 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Citizen Zed

want to stop the responsive shelling?

kill the hamas agents firing missiles

the Israeli shelling would stop fairly soon after that


5 posted on 07/30/2014 6:07:18 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Citizen Zed
"“People who saw that happen are now convinced there are no safe places left,” Mr. Yousef said."

Yeah, when you launch missile strikes from schools, hospitals and private homes those places tend to get retaliated against. My Give-A-$#*+ Meter is pegging at zero.

6 posted on 07/30/2014 6:08:19 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Citizen Zed

S**t happens...


7 posted on 07/30/2014 6:09:13 AM PDT by TomServo
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To: Citizen Zed
Why, they don't like living like Israelis under random bombardment from Hamas?

8 posted on 07/30/2014 6:09:24 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Citizen Zed

Secondary detonations of missile caches.


9 posted on 07/30/2014 6:12:15 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: dfwgator

I saw a report on the BBC this morning. Our media is downright chummy with the Israelis compared to those assholes.

The only thing left that I can think of is for the Israelis to build shelters right on the border monitored by the Israelis but Hamas would never accept it.


10 posted on 07/30/2014 6:14:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Disregard the 400 rockets stored there, and the fact that Hamas had the children tied to chairs.


11 posted on 07/30/2014 6:16:59 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: Citizen Zed
They can’t see what they’re shooting at

Unlike the unguided rockets fired by Hamas, artillery whether ground-bound or afloat generally has forward observers calling corrections back to the battery.

While the indirect fire shooters can't see what they're shooting at - they certainly aren't firing blind.

Tanks, OTOH, have eyes on the target and I don't believe for one minute they don't know what they're shooting at.

12 posted on 07/30/2014 6:17:43 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Citizen Zed

Mr. Turner why did Israel hit the school? I bet you know why.


13 posted on 07/30/2014 6:21:23 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: cripplecreek
The only thing left that I can think of is for the Israelis to build shelters right on the border monitored by the Israelis but Hamas would never accept it.

There were reports that a few days ago the IDF sent notification that "We know X is a Hamas site, we are going to bomb it - leave now." and Hamas prevented the civilians from leaving the site thus causing civilian casualties when the IDF did in fact bomb the site. Sorry I don't remember any more details, it is lost in the host of other barbaric acts committed by Hamas. The IDF should take no prisoners, wipe Hamas off the face of the earth.

14 posted on 07/30/2014 6:22:33 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Citizen Zed

The article remains silent about the REASON for the shelling until the very end...oh, by the way, Hamas rockets have “been found” in the UN schools, which the UN has turned over to “Gaza based security” which is a blatant euphemism for Hamas. And THIS time they will not turn over these rockets (the ones in the school that is getting the ever-loving snot shelled out of it) to Hamas....riiiiiggghhhht. This glimpse of fragments of truth comes after a long drone of “look at these poor people who have no place to go.”

WRONG! Earlier in the article, it says that they fled as Israeli forces advanced...or they chose to remain with the immoral, evil Hamas rather than live peaceably behind Israeli lines. You made your choices, and your children suffer....quite crying to the world about the consequences of your evil choices.

“My house was burned and death followed us here,” said Ahmed Mousa, 50, who was in the school courtyard when the shells hit. “Where am I supposed to go?” Answer: Wrong, you have followed death (Hamas and terrorism and Jew-hatred) your entire miserable life, and death has just decided to turn on you. Where are you supposed to go? As far from the evil Hamas and their culture of death as you can possibly manage. Until you do that, you are complicit in all of this bloodshed.


15 posted on 07/30/2014 6:22:39 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: Citizen Zed

More media BS and lies.


16 posted on 07/30/2014 6:27:48 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: GilesB

I’m spending my morning trying to find my microscopic nano-violin.


17 posted on 07/30/2014 6:31:06 AM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: Citizen Zed

I’ll bet this is in an area Israel advised civilians to leave.


18 posted on 07/30/2014 6:34:21 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The GOP-e scum enlisted Democrats to steal the Republican primary. The GOP-e can go to Hell.)
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To: Citizen Zed
“When they started naval bombardment, artillery and tank fire, that’s just not as accurate as airstrikes. They can’t see what they’re shooting at...

Hamas uses unguided rockets. Why can't the Israelis? /S

19 posted on 07/30/2014 6:35:11 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Citizen Zed

Only 20 killed? Considering the cost of ordinance that is a mediocre return on investment. Kill them all.


20 posted on 07/30/2014 6:36:10 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Citizen Zed
So? Little cockroaches grow up and blow up so fast.

Bounce the rubble, and bounce it again!

21 posted on 07/30/2014 6:40:16 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: Citizen Zed

No decent parent would send their kids to school during a war that was just outside the front door. If children were in this school then it was through force by Hamas that put them there, or it was just the normal course of satanic Islam.


22 posted on 07/30/2014 6:44:41 AM PDT by Jay Redhawk ("Good beer is proof that God loves us." Ben Franklin)
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To: Citizen Zed

“They can’t see what they’re shooting at, so we’ve seen more destruction, more damage, more death.”

I seriously doubt the IDF is randomly firing in Gaza, as she suggests. US doctrine is to have an observer, and I’m sure the IDF’s is the same. Gaza is a very ‘static’ target - the IDF probably have permanent observation points all around it.

And, modern artillery is very accurate - in fact, if they would just keep the rocket launchers 500 meters away from a school (1/3 mile), there would be almost no chance a school would get hit.


23 posted on 07/30/2014 6:50:55 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: Citizen Zed

A B-17 crew was informed today that they had blown up a school in their campaign to rid the world of nazis.

“No more flying for us,” the aircraft commander was heard to say. “We’re done.”

And so the japs and germans won the war.


24 posted on 07/30/2014 7:03:52 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: dfwgator

You beat me to the punch...the IDF should release video, still imagery or other information showing the military activity that has eminated from that school.

One fact conveniently ignored by the MSM: when a “protected” site is used for military purposes, it is no longer immune to attack. Hamas’s flagrant disregard for the rules of warfare—and the safety of its civilian population—is on display every day in Gaza, but the media won’t touch that one, for fear they will be expelled, or even killed by terrorist thugs. Instead, it’s much easier to go after the Israelis and their “murder” of innocent civilians.


25 posted on 07/30/2014 7:21:18 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Citizen Zed

I’d sure like to see the innocent civilians of Gaza rise up and start killing HAMAStards.


26 posted on 07/30/2014 7:25:21 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: Citizen Zed

Good.


27 posted on 07/30/2014 7:40:17 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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