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For Second Week, Arrests Plunge in New York City
New York Times ^ | J. DAVID GOODMAN and AL BAKER

Posted on 01/06/2015 6:04:26 AM PST by proxy_user

1. The NYPD is being paid to do a job, and paid very well incidentally, and the public has a right to expect them to do their jobs. This "go slow" is just demonstrating the lack of professionalism and judgment that was the original source of complaint against them.

2. Why is this being described as a problem? There is no indication that anyone is less safe. The only "complaint" seems the decrease in revenue from fines. This seems to smack of corrupt third-world cops shaking down the peasants for what little money they have.

3. This is absurd the NY Police think they are a law unto their own. We have constitutional rights written in the knowledge that police cannot act without our consent. This group of officers should be fired and stripped their benefits.

4. Great News! The whole point many of us have been trying to make is that we do not want to live in a police state, and that policing had become overzealous.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: deblasio; newyork; police
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I have posted excerpts not from the article, which is typical NY Times boilerplate, but from the comments section. There are many more interesting comments at the URL.

I believe that the commenters here at Free Republic have taken a stand on both sides, at various times. Now the proposed experiment with less aggressive policing is actually underway.

1 posted on 01/06/2015 6:04:26 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user

The NYT can not be expected to say anything worthwhile about this or anything. The NYT is on the same page as deblasio and 0bama.


2 posted on 01/06/2015 6:08:18 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: I want the USA back

Please read my comment. The text I posted was not written by anyone employed by the New York Times.


3 posted on 01/06/2015 6:09:16 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user
"This seems to smack of corrupt third-world cops shaking down the peasants for what little money they have. "

Crime doesn't pay!

Traffic and code violators do.

4 posted on 01/06/2015 6:18:52 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: proxy_user

dear mayor: if it isn’t a problem, then why are you calling it to everybody’s attention?


5 posted on 01/06/2015 6:24:16 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: proxy_user

I think there are two sides to every coin. And I’m not trying to have my cake and eat it too.

Cops GENERALLY are people who do their job and do it well and honestly. Just like every other profession (even used car salesmen).

There ARE those who go too far....for whatever reason: political pressure, racial bias, hot headedness, a sense of power. I think those cops are in the minority—but they are painted as a majority by the thugs and media.

NYC under Giuliani became a safer place. NYC under de Blasio has not become a safer place—for the citizens OR for the cops.

Leadership counts. Character counts.


6 posted on 01/06/2015 6:24:37 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: rawcatslyentist

Who will the cops side with in the coming civil war?


7 posted on 01/06/2015 6:25:05 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: rawcatslyentist

That’s what I would do if I were NY Cop.

Still pursue the perp trying to mug an old lady on the street corner. But cease any and all activities in which I would act as revenue agent for DeBlasio.


8 posted on 01/06/2015 6:25:42 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: proxy_user

The police were ordered by Unions not to arrest or write tickets unless ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. Why don’t you and the NYT take it up with the Unions.....or the Mayor, since he worries about his son and everyone else being stopped by the NYPD.

Take the sad, sad, BS story elsewhere. The NYT is unable to do it’s job, so why question the police about theirs.


9 posted on 01/06/2015 6:26:59 AM PST by Kackikat ('If it talks like a traitor, acts like a traitor, then by God it's a traitor.')
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To: proxy_user

If those comments are indicative, the residents need to feel more pain.


10 posted on 01/06/2015 6:27:51 AM PST by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: All
But, but.....Bratton and DeBlasio's joint presser Monday had Big Bird patted himself on the back for 20 whole minutes.....he and Bratton took all the credit for the "lower crime rate".....

LOWER CRIME RATE? Better look again----no doubt Bratton relied on the scam he used when he Commissioned under Giuliani: manipulate the stats--refigure the way crimes are reported....eliminate some crimes from the statistics.

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Big Bird clearly lied about the purpose of the presser.....the whole point was to assemble the ptess corps as a sounding board.....so ego-driven Big Bird could whine about cops turning their backs to him.

Bratton was clearly coached to attack cops---as the way to massage Birdman's bruised ego.

Blabbio's knee-deep in bird doo---and the "Progressive genius" still hasn't figured how to get out of it----except by bashing cops.

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It was astounding to see Bratton at the presser----practically prostrate, all puckered up, sucking up to Blabbio--- vitrolically bashing cops.

Is Blabbio buying Bratton's loyalty? Let's connect the dots.

<><> Blabbio recently announced he "showed his support" for cops by giving Bratton $132 million;

<><> the city's procurement bulletin notes that Bratton's close pal is getting a cushy no-bid deal from the NYPD. Read on.

NY POST REPORT EXCERPT---The NYPD is poised to issue a no-bid contract to a pal of Commissioner Bratton.......the deal with Strategic Policy Partnerships is to fulfill Bratton and Mayor de Blasio’s mandate to fix community policing in the wake of the Eric Garner case.

The contract subsidizes training for high-ranking police officers to mend community relations and enhances cadet training.... according to City Record, the official publication for NYC procurements.

The no-bid firm is headed by Bratton friend, Robert Wasserman, onetime partner in The Bratton Group--a L/E consulting firm Bratton ran before taking NYPD’s top job last January....the two pals raked in more than $53,000 on a contract with the Baltimore Police Dept in 2013.....and as L/E consultants in Oakland, Calif, where Bratton earned $125,000.

Wasserman founded Strategic Policy Partnerships in Feb 2012. He served as a consultant (a) during Bratton's tenure as LA's police chief 2002-2009, and, (b) when Bratton was NYPD commissioner in 1994 (under Giuliani).

Wasserman's more recent contract entitled, "the transition of the Bratton administration in 2014” was funded by the n/p "Police Foundation..."

But the new no-bid deal will be financed by taxpayers.

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That whining sound you hear is Bratton saying: "What's my cut?"

11 posted on 01/06/2015 6:29:48 AM PST by Liz (Pres Reagan on govt shutdown: "Let's close it down and see if anyone notices.")
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To: Don Corleone

“Who will the cops side with in the coming civil war?”

Considering which group is declaring themselves the avowed enemies of the cops, probably not therewith.


12 posted on 01/06/2015 6:36:31 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: I want the USA back
The NYPD is being paid to do a job, and paid very well incidentally, and the public has a right to expect them to do their jobs.

The NYSlimes is being paid to do a job, and paid very well incidentally, and the public has a right to expect them to do their jobs.

13 posted on 01/06/2015 6:40:45 AM PST by gr8eman (Bill Carson...meet Arch Stanton!)
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To: proxy_user

Two more NYPD shot last night while attempting to stop a robbery.

They are expected to recover.

Just sayin’


14 posted on 01/06/2015 6:50:08 AM PST by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Don Corleone

“Who will the cops side with in the coming civil war?”.......

From what I hear, odumbo won’t like it.


15 posted on 01/06/2015 7:06:48 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Don Corleone

“Who will the cops side with in the coming civil war?”

Them what pays ‘em. The government.


16 posted on 01/06/2015 7:28:21 AM PST by all the best
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To: proxy_user

There’s probably a lot of “getting even” by the cops on the street, but...

...this whole thing started when the city’s mayor drew a target on the backs of the city’s cops...in a community that has shown a willingness to fire on those targets.


17 posted on 01/06/2015 7:43:23 AM PST by moovova
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To: proxy_user

When the potus and AG of the US pick and choose which laws to enforce and not enforce, and when and where they decide to enforce or not enforce them, who can blame the NYPD for following their example?


18 posted on 01/06/2015 7:46:44 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: all the best
They'll become soulless and criminal Praetorian brutes. Their ranks will be drawn from the dregs of society, and just like Praetorians familiar to history, they'll kill without compunction for the highest bidder.

Honorable and intelligent Americans won't associate themselves with that element. They will arm themselves and stand apart.

Then you will TRULY have a third world civil war. It will be a 'hell on earth' complete with the violence, instability, poverty, anarchy and chaos we see all over the globe. No matter where it leads or how it ends, the American experience as we have all known it, will be OVER.

19 posted on 01/06/2015 7:56:26 AM PST by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: moovova
In the short term, declining revenues from fines will adversely impact the New York municipal budget. We are probably not too far from another economic downturn. New York City is in the top percentile of taxation nationally. There is little room for increasing taxes without the usual effects of middle and upper class flight and decreased business activity. In the longer term, higher crime rates will cause degentrification. Liberals often act rationally when it comes to their personal finances and safety, even if it contradicts their worldview. The Asian-American community, instrumental in the economic recovery of New York in the 1990s and 2000s, will move out. Real estate projects will suffer, and businesses will flee, just as they did in the 1970s. Within a few years, New York will less resemble its international peers like Tokyo, Hong Kong, or London, and more resemble its domestic peers like Detroit, Chicago, and Baltimore.

Back to the future for the Big Apple.

20 posted on 01/06/2015 8:00:17 AM PST by Wallace T.
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