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Proof That A M240 Machine Gun Used In Las Vegas Shooting @ Mandalay Bay
Youtube ^ | 10/04/17

Posted on 10/04/2017 5:55:25 PM PDT by Enlightened1

The rate of fire and waveforms match almost exactly. If you have ever used a bump fire you know they are finnicky at best and certainly not capable of firing a perfect 74 round burst as shown in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mXe9dk77bk&feature=

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Miscellaneous; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: ar15; barkingmoonbat; conspiracytheory; fire; keeperofoddknowledge; m240; sound
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To: Enlightened1

BS ...


21 posted on 10/04/2017 6:17:40 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Delta 21

Saw it on You Tube but after I replied I went back and decided that while the sound is definitely that of a .30 cal I’m now not certain if this wasn’t some sort of dubbed over video.

What do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niTyWCqq12I

Re: AK variant. Doesn’t sound like any AK I ever heard.


22 posted on 10/04/2017 6:19:58 PM PDT by x1stcav (We have the guns. Do we have the will?)
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To: Enlightened1

In 2012 Demolition Ranch did a video of a bump fire stock, it sounded very much like a belt fed weapon. And with a 60 round Surefire mag.


23 posted on 10/04/2017 6:21:37 PM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best)
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To: x1stcav
Doesn't sound like an M-60 to me....but my only experience with ‘em was up close and personal...long time ago.

(WHB...ex D 1/10Cav)

24 posted on 10/04/2017 6:22:48 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Enlightened1

Any links found on the floor of the hotel room? No? Then it wasn’t a 240.


25 posted on 10/04/2017 6:23:43 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: M-cubed

What does it sound like?


26 posted on 10/04/2017 6:24:14 PM PDT by x1stcav (We have the guns. Do we have the will?)
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To: x1stcav

If this were true their must be many spent bullets to prove it.


27 posted on 10/04/2017 6:26:19 PM PDT by crusher2013
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To: x1stcav

Maybe this:

https://youtu.be/IBm3OM7X2PM


28 posted on 10/04/2017 6:26:52 PM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: TigerClaws

I heard 23 in the hotel room & 19 found elsewhere.


29 posted on 10/04/2017 6:30:01 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Enlightened1

Ridiculous.


30 posted on 10/04/2017 6:30:19 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: al baby

lol


31 posted on 10/04/2017 6:31:50 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Squantos

But .. I seen it on the youtuber!


32 posted on 10/04/2017 6:33:34 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: crusher2013

If this were true their must be many spent bullets to prove it.

Oh yeah. Lotta spent BULLETS over at the concert area.


33 posted on 10/04/2017 6:34:19 PM PDT by Redcitizen (The USA flag never takes a knee!!)
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To: Enlightened1

I think conspiracy theorists are uneducated morons.


34 posted on 10/04/2017 6:34:32 PM PDT by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: smokingfrog

LMAO ! ..... Stay Safe my friend. Hope yer well.


35 posted on 10/04/2017 6:35:01 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Enlightened1
I can explain why the audio sounds like a belt fed, which I will admit it does because of the cyclic rate but it was multiple bump fired ARs with Surefire 100 round mags. Here is the explanation.

What people are reporting about bump fire stocks being erratic and difficult to run is true when they are fired in a normal range type setting. That is when they are fired horizontally to the ground. However when bump firing either with a stock or without is done at an extreme downward angle (which this was) it's actually VERY easy to get very long and steady rate of fire. The reason for this is fairly simple. The trick to bump fire is pulling the weapon forward with an consistent force to keep the weapon bumping the trigger as it returns from recoil. When the weapon is pointed downward gravity does the work so the rifle is actually just bouncing up and down and activating the trigger.

This is the reason for the nice 500 RPM cyclic rate and the reason the bursts last about 10 seconds. 8-10 rounds per second empties a 100 hundred round Surefire mag in 10 seconds. Then the pause where the shooter takes a breather moves positions picks up a new rifle equipped the same way and repeats the process.

If the shooter actually had a belt fed he likely would have fired bursts lasting much longer than 10 seconds.

This was bump fire just as they are saying.

36 posted on 10/04/2017 6:35:05 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Future Snake Eater

It can be fed from both linked ammunition and STANAG magazines, like those used in the M16 and M4. This allows the SAW gunner to use a rifleman’s magazines as an emergency source of ammunition in the event that he runs out of linked rounds.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M249_light_machine_gun


37 posted on 10/04/2017 6:37:12 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: x1stcav
not sure...but I'm not up on that at all!....but just to me.....the rate of fire in the vids was too fast....

something to consider off the top of my head....if it was an M-60 the spray pattern on people that were hit would be fairly close as opposed to bump fired that would prolly be all over the place....just MHO...

38 posted on 10/04/2017 6:37:15 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: x1stcav

Sounds like the shots at the very first of the clip with the lady in the cab. Those 1st shots sound really close and they really are. Only 300 or so ft straight up, pointing at a down angle. Lots of echos going on.

Definatly a 7.62 but doesnt sound like a 249 or Mag-58. All the ARs are very smooth firing. You can make out once or twice a “crank fire” and you can get those for just about anything. First the girl asks if you can hear the shots and you can just make out what sounds like AR fire. Then after a small break he opens up with a .308 and you can really hear it. Money was no object for the weapons so he could have had a .308 FN or an AR-10.

Im trying to find a link tying him to his father (FBI most wanted) and I could swear I read that he was listed as “Pshycopathic” and I dont think you can buy guns with something like that in your file,(?)


39 posted on 10/04/2017 6:37:46 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

40 posted on 10/04/2017 6:38:17 PM PDT by Redcitizen (The USA flag never takes a knee!!)
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