Posted on 08/15/2018 6:41:07 AM PDT by SMGFan
Authorities on Tuesday said vandals flooded a World War II-era submarine moored at the New Jersey Naval Museum and stole four memorial plaques from the property. Intruders intentionally opened hatches throughout the 312-foot U.S.S. Ling, causing the entire inside of the 2,500-ton craft to flood with water from the Hackensack River, according to city police Capt. Brian Corcoran.
The damage reported Tuesday came after officers responded to the Naval Museum in Hackensack a day before, police said. A caretaker found plaques valued at more than $10,000 that honored sailors and the 52 U.S. submarines lost during World War II were pried from a cement casing and stolen.
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52 U.S. submarines lost during World War II
That wuz a white peeples war by imperial slavers. So it’s did to trash the memorial.
In terms of crew deaths, it lists them as follows (boat losses do not include scuttled boats in this breakdown): 1939 : 9 boats sunk and 204 sailors killed (148 survivors) 1940 : 24 boats sunk and 643 sailors killed (331 survivors) 1941 : 34 boats sunk and 887 sailors killed (645 survivors) 1942 : 85 boats sunk and 3,277 sailors killed (818 survivors) 1943 : 235 boats sunk and 10,081 sailors killed (1,826 survivors) 1944 : 217 boats sunk and 7,999 sailors killed (2,365 survivors) 1945 : 120 boats sunk and 3,806 sailors killed (440 survivors)
This is evidence of what a generation that has been taught to hate it’s history has wrought.
It’s just heartbreaking.
The Japanese never did really figure out anti-submarine warfare. We and the Brits did, putting lots of scientists and engineers on the problem. ASW techniques were one of the early successes of Operations Research.
Subpar sonar compared to the allies
It helped, of course, that the Brits were reading the U-boats’ orders almost as fast that the U-boat commanders were...
I think the casualties to the U-boat forces eventually exceeded 90% and they STILL kept going out.
I hope that when they catch these POS’s that they are forced to clean the sub.
The correct term in ebonics is “wypipo”. Get it right, colonizer.
One would think on a museum sub that the sea cocks would have been welded shut.
Should have welded the sea cocks shut.. you are correct. but the reporter says “ hatches”.. obviously the reporter knows little about subs. otoh. the placks , yes a loss, the sub. not so much. never saw combat. There was no real reason to flood the sub.. the low lifes who did this really are scum. total scum. some kimd of mental defects or just plain evil.
The ‘museum’ is kind of defunct...the main building is closed. It’s really little more than an open air display of old military hardware, which includes the submarine.
The Ling itself is a problem...there have been efforts to get her moved, but there are real issues with that. She is currently stuck in the mud and not really afloat. Even if she was freed from that, there is no way to move her anywhere as the waterway she came in on has long since stilted up and simply isn’t deep enough anymore. Add to that that there is an old drawbridge in the path that is no longer functional...and the chances of her coming out in one piece is slim to none.
Sad end, but there simply isn’t the resources to do much more than cut her up in place.
Yep, I once was at an old steel mill in Pittsburgh where someone had stolen 10,000 lbs of copper cables by sawing them off with a sawz-all. The scrap metal place never once asked where he got it all.
Also the Japanese had a cultural obstacle in taking on that problem. In a war actively engaging the enemy were proper warrior (Meaning “samurai”!) actions, activities with “honor”. Non-direct fighting military occupations such as technical specialties did not have as much “honor”. Because of this less emphasis was placed on getting the right motivated people into these jobs, sufficient funding as well as factoring such things into their planning. Also training had “face & class” issues (just like the Arabs still do!) with correcting mistakes. Thus “training” in such specialties was not as effective as it could have been. Combat training issues for the Japanese answers to tough problems could always be satisfied by showing sufficient “enthusiasm”, a balky radio, radar set, fire fighting gear or physics/chemistry problem doesn’t care about your enthusiasm.
As there are in most cultural things exceptions but as a rule-of-thumb it has validity. The Japanese were a modern (1940s modern) power fighting with a 16th century ethos. There were times (Thankfully!) when reality & ethos clashed, much to our benefit!
Wasn’t this sub/museum in the news a year ago or more? Seems like they were trying restore it after it had pretty much been left neglected for too long? Maybe wanted to move it to another locale but it was pretty much land locked where it was. I don’t recall specifics. The vandalism is abhorrent.
Excellent point. And for those who haven’t seen it, here’s a classic:
Why Arabs Lose Wars
https://www.meforum.org/articles/other/why-arabs-lose-wars
The krauts had it coming.
At the moment, mind you...
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