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Martina Navratilova: What Serena Got Wrong
New York Times ^ | September 10, 2018 | Martina Navratilova

Posted on 09/10/2018 5:16:48 PM PDT by EdnaMode

Serena Williams has part of it right. There is a huge double standard for women when it comes to how bad behavior is punished — and not just in tennis.

But in her protests against an umpire during the United States Open final on Saturday, she also got part of it wrong. I don’t believe it’s a good idea to apply a standard of “If men can get away with it, women should be able to, too.” Rather, I think the question we have to ask ourselves is this: What is the right way to behave to honor our sport and to respect our opponents?

To recap: The trouble began when early in the second set, Ms. Williams was given a warning for coaching. This one is on her coach: Patrick Mouratoglou was using both hands to motion to Ms. Williams to move forward and got called on it. While it is true that illegal coaching is quite common and that most coaches do it, it’s also true that despite what many commentators have said following Saturday’s events, they are called on it quite frequently and that most of the time, players just shrug it off and know that going forward, they and their coaches now need to behave, because the next infraction will cost them a point. The player is responsible for his or her coach’s conduct. And it is actually irrelevant whether the player saw or heard whatever instructions were given; either way, it is still an infraction.

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To: Sarah Barracuda

Brings back good memories!


41 posted on 09/10/2018 7:18:35 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives numerous, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: EdnaMode

‘Roid rage?


42 posted on 09/10/2018 7:21:35 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Bommer

Agreed. Venus was a good competitor and showed class in defeat.


43 posted on 09/10/2018 7:26:24 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: Alberta's Child

They’ll probably consider female only refs from now on.

Those are really good points. Serena is a poor sport and can’t just let her opponent win. Her tantrums are such terrible behavior for a professional athlete. Roid rage sounds like a strong possibility.


44 posted on 09/10/2018 7:28:20 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: SkyPilot

Agreed. I’ve always found Martina to be a good commentator and fair to all of the players.


45 posted on 09/10/2018 7:33:17 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: colorado tanker

Serena looks like she weighs a lot more now, but noone wants to say that.


46 posted on 09/10/2018 9:30:23 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: EdnaMode

Believe Serena knew she would lose, was frustrated, and caused trouble.

She did congratulate Osaka afterwards, so have to give her some credit


47 posted on 09/10/2018 9:36:51 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: ifinnegan

He may have been, but that is what he said.

Guy has a history of statements like that.


48 posted on 09/10/2018 10:45:27 PM PDT by redgolum
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To: EdnaMode

Way too much testosterone.


49 posted on 09/11/2018 2:40:31 AM PDT by maddogtiger
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To: EdnaMode

Way too much testosterone.


50 posted on 09/11/2018 2:40:32 AM PDT by maddogtiger
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To: SunkenCiv

Professional tennis players aren’t stupid.

They know the rules of the game.

They know how to play the rules to win to get paid and gain fame.

The entire affair was a con job by Serena.

From the responses of ESPN commentators, they were also in on it.

Spoke with a lot of pros today. They’re aware of it and really hate Serena.

Listening to Serena’s diatribe is like watching a tennis volley. She uses the discrimination shot, the same way she would place spin on the ball. She then tries to provoke the umpire by unilaterally stating the opposite of his call and warning, a cross court shot. She then accuses him of being a thief and a liar, a lob shot to provoke another penalty. It’s all a set-up to extort money from the deep pocket which has been awarding her millions on the circuit.


51 posted on 09/11/2018 2:50:48 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Serena’s body, like Barry Bonds & Tiger Woods, is showing the effects of massive steroid/PED enhancements.

I would suggest most of her prior championships be marked with an asterisk for the chemical assistance.

There is absolutely nothing feminine about that physique.

Nice to see a relatively thin, young and MUCH more feminine woman beat her for the championship.

Finally, the NYC crowd supporting the racist Serena showed their true colors.


52 posted on 09/11/2018 3:02:18 AM PDT by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" @HOROWITZ39, DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

“Does this count as one tennis pro mansplaining to another?”


Yep. “Mansplaining” means being so obviously right that the person using the term can’t make a sensible argument to the contrary.

Caveat: On occasion, it is wholly the inability to make a sensible argument that is the critical determinant - thus for these certain people the entire world is mansplaining to them all of the time.


53 posted on 09/11/2018 11:26:14 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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