Posted on 04/14/2019 7:27:14 AM PDT by Drew68
GRAND HAVEN, Mich. A man now living in Indiana is suing his parents after he says they destroyed his valuable porn collection.
FOX 17 is choosing to identify the plaintiff in this story as "Charlie," as this is a civil case without any associated criminal charges.
The case dates back to October 2016 when, according to a lawsuit filed this week, Charlie moved into his parents' home in Grand Haven after going through a divorce from his wife. Charlie apparently stayed for 10 months in their home, doing housework in lieu of paying rent. He was asked to leave after police had to be called to the house in August of 2017 for a domestic situation.
His parents allegedly traveled in November 2017 to his new place in Indiana to drop off possessions he had left at their home.
Allegedly missing from the items they brought: Charlie's massive pornography collection.
Charlie says his parents told him that they destroyed the entire collection. A collection that consisted of over 12 moving boxes full of movies.
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His father, according to the lawsuit, responded, "Believe it or not, one reason for why I destroyed your porn was for your own mental and emotional heath. I would have done the same if I had found a kilo of crack cocaine. Someday, I hope you will understand.
Charlie's father said in one email that his son was allegedly kicked out of high school and college for selling porn to other students. Saying in the documents, "I also warned you at that time if I ever found pornography in my house again, I would destroy it."
I don’t see that at all.
The guy never retrieved some of his stuff for some time after leaving and then moved further away with the porn among the unretrieved items.
That’s abandonment, the same as if it were a storage unit.
You get nothing.
Good day Sir.
Under normal circumstances where a written lease is involved, maybe so, depending on the fine print.
In this case, it appears the agreement was completely verbal, so the landlords have no legal standing in that area. We don't know what terms were involved with the tenant's agreement to vacate the premises.
Perhaps there was some informal arrangement for the tenant to retrieve the balance of his belongings by an agreed-upon date, which is common with such arrangements. We just don't know.
If the tenant failed to retrieve his belongings from the landlord's property for several months, that might suggest abandonment. The landlords would also have to convince the court that they expended every effort to get the ex-tenant to pick up his things, and that he failed to respond in a timely manner.
They would also have to convince the court that they informed the tenant that failure to move his belongings by a certain date would be grounds for abandonment, and thus, disposal of said belongings at their pleasure.
I doubt the landlords can prove any of that.
You are probably correct. I didn’t get a look at them.
That's shaping up to be true. I was an avid record collector for decades but all of that music is instantly available to stream. While people of my generation appreciate the cover artwork and liner notes, the younger generation couldn't care less. Ditto for books and I have a lot of those as well. Everything is so easily accessible online that there's nothing special about having the physical media anymore.
Don't be shortsighted. Things that were collectible in our grandparents time, are still collectible today, as they will be tomorrow.
Right? Lol.
That whole show is silly. Some piece of pottery is theoretically worth $50k. But the catch is, only if someone wants to buy it. And people interested in antiques are dying out rapidly.
I...uh....done some research. Yeah that's it, research.
No no wouldnt Rick call in his porn expert.....maybe Chumlee to get a true evaluation?
LOL - yeah, Rebecca Romney is usually his go to lady for books and I guess “films”, but she’s much to fine to know anything about porn - Chumlee would probably be the perfect resource for that......
Stop the lawsuit in 10 seconds by saying “are you suing us for getting rid of your regular porn collection, or your regular porn collection along with your child porn collection?”
if this is an old collection with pre 1976 movies there is a good chance some of the porn has under age participants. enforcement of laws prohibiting those who were under age was spotty at best and most movie porn was produced over seas and shipped in to the united states from Sweden and Denmark with the bulk being under age. the best result probably it being destroyed.
In this case, it appears the agreement was completely verbal, so the landlords have no legal standing in that area.
If you read the article, not that Freepers ever do, its quite clearly stated that the son was warned n writing via email that porn was not permitted and that if it was found it would be disposed of.
So theres that.
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That's transphobic.
You nailed that! (Pun intended...)
I think the principle here is "As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord" (Joshua 24:15). The rules would apply to anyone, whether related or not, living in or visiting.
I'm no lawyer; but I play one on FR. Wouldn't the disposition of the case depend on whether or not there was a written lease, signed by both parties? If it was merely a verbal agreement, as I suspect it was, it would then seem that the father's stated warning about not bringing porn into the house would also be one of the terms of the "lease."
I did that to my own damn self -- a big stack of "underground comix" from the late 60s- early 70s -- R. Crumb and such. Maybe not millions, but a heck of a lot more than I paid for them. I sold them in a yard sale in the late 70s towards a down payment on a house, so I guess I shouldn't complain...
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