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Some Chinese nationalists see justice in Notre Dame fire
CNN ^ | Apt 2019 | James Griffiths

Posted on 04/17/2019 11:27:19 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

As the world watched in horror at pictures of the Notre Dame burning, some in China saw another story in the flames: that of retribution.

While the overwhelming reaction in China to Monday's fire was one of sympathy and shock, some could not help but point what they saw as historical parallels, even a bit of justice.

I might be sympathetic to refugees in Lebanon, but the blaze of the Notre Dame only reminds me of the flames of the Old Summer Palace," wrote one user on social media. "Everything has consequences, heavenly cycles, retribution. This applies to both people and country! I only feel awe for karma, and it has nothing to do with morality."

French and British troops burned the Summer Palace to the ground during the Second Opium War in 1860 and it has since become a key element in the "Century of Humiliation" narrative taught in Chinese schools.

During the 19th century, foreign powers, chief among them the UK, invaded the Qing Empire and imposed unfair treaties on it after defeat, seizing Hong Kong and forcing open various "treaty ports," such as Shanghai, to foreign trade.

A "Summer Palace" hashtag on Chinese social platform Weibo attracted close to 100 million views, with many comments about karma or the importance of remembering China's own experience.


(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: france; koranimals; notredame; paris

1 posted on 04/17/2019 11:27:19 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Maoist Marxists in France have tried hijacking the ‘yellow vest’ protests and caused violence in the streets.

Of course the Chi Coms are sympatico with their fellow Reds in seeking the end of Western civilization.


2 posted on 04/17/2019 11:31:37 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Sometimes it’s best to just keep your mouth shut about other people’s troubles.


3 posted on 04/17/2019 11:33:16 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

So, ONE Chinese person posting merits a news story? This is fake news at its finest, brought to you by the king of fakeness, CNN.


4 posted on 04/17/2019 11:33:50 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

1860

And this is a big problem in Asia and the ME. Ready to kill innocent people over something that happened 170 years ago.

People who think like that are sick.

This doesn’t go that far but it is still emotionally retarded.

They have really been ginning up anti-Japanese sentiment in China over the last couple of years and it is - dangerous.


5 posted on 04/17/2019 11:34:27 AM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (The Eloi unexpectedly protected the Morlocks from rogue Eloi as they themselves prepared to be eaten)
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To: I want the USA back
A "Summer Palace" hashtag on Chinese social platform Weibo attracted close to 100 million views, with many comments about karma or the importance of remembering China's own experience.
6 posted on 04/17/2019 11:35:27 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Chinese foreign policy is driven by a desire for revenge.


7 posted on 04/17/2019 11:37:01 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Almost to a person, I find Chinese have more respect for France (or rather their romantic illusions about France) than I do.


8 posted on 04/17/2019 11:43:27 AM PDT by PGR88
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The Summer Palace was burned in retaliation for the Chinese mistreatment (and murder) of British (largely Indian) soldiers.

The usual reaction in those days would have been to burn Beijing; but the British commander took pity on all the innocent people there, so he selected the summer palace of the dynasty (which was responsible) instead.


9 posted on 04/17/2019 11:47:48 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Rude to point it out. But it’s actually a pretty fair point. But still, rude. But a closer parallel is the 2017 fire that destroyed the Lingguan Mansion pagoda that was about the same age as Notre Dame.
It was damaged in an earthquake and was undergoing repairs and burned in much the same manner.


10 posted on 04/17/2019 11:48:49 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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“Almost to a person, I find Chinese have more respect for France (or rather their romantic illusions about France) than I do.”

That sure isn’t displayed when they visit the Louvre. Or maybe that was Japanese. Never seen such a rude disrespectful bunch.


11 posted on 04/17/2019 11:50:38 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: I want the USA back
So, ONE Chinese person posting merits a news story? This is fake news at its finest, brought to you by the king of fakeness, CNN.

Guess you missed that last sentence.

That's OK, I'll re-post it for you:

A "Summer Palace" hashtag on Chinese social platform Weibo attracted close to 100 million views, with many comments about karma or the importance of remembering China's own experience.

12 posted on 04/17/2019 11:51:06 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (AOC: The brain of a tea bisquit)
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“The Summer Palace was burned in retaliation for the Chinese mistreatment (and murder) of British (largely Indian) soldiers.”

The Chinese mistreated invading soldiers who were forcing them to allow the import of opium when the Chinese were openly fighting to stop it. How rude to not be welcoming to your invaders.

Lots of crap in the old world is blown out of proportion, but the opium wars were evil. And for extra fun we still suffer from them today. HSBC was created by the Brits to serve the dope trade. And the hostile China we have today unfolded from that era.

Back then the Brits were basically Sinaloa in China.


13 posted on 04/17/2019 11:55:33 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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That sure isn’t displayed when they visit the Louvre. Or maybe that was Japanese. Never seen such a rude disrespectful bunch.

No, definitely Chinese. Better educated and sophisticated Chinese travel like civilized people anywhere. But super-cheap group-travel packages are marketed heavily to Chinese peasants and people out in the Provinces. Like most things in China, travel has been hugely commoditized, packaged, degraded and sold. But its also a sign of China's growing wealth. The numbers are huge. Its a real status symbol for these people to travel abroad, and as I said, they have complete unreal, fantastic and story-book visions of what France is.

14 posted on 04/17/2019 12:02:43 PM PDT by PGR88
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The destruction of the old Summer Palace was an act of barbarism, but it has nothing to do with the fire at the Cathedral de Notre Dame.

This is retrograde thinking, to the extent that it’s thinking at all.


15 posted on 04/17/2019 12:40:19 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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What a completely dumbarse comparison. And leave it to the junk shovelers at CNN to spread this nonsense.

The fact that Notre Dame was itself the object of trashing by the French themselves in the Reign of Terror, the Cathedral desecrated by renaming it ‘The Temple of Reason’ and being used as a garbage dump for years should relieve one of thinking it is representative of anything but a religious past largely marginalized post-revolution. Leave it to a Maoist to think it’s burning is some kind of karma. If that’s the case should we be expecting the blood of millions be laid at the feet of ingrates like this since they are the natural sympathizers and profligates of Mao’s legacy?


16 posted on 04/17/2019 12:41:15 PM PDT by Lent
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Some Chinese nationalists see justice in Notre Dame fire


This story has that "some say" ring to it. "Some say" is often quoted as a source by the fake news industry.
17 posted on 04/17/2019 12:54:42 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ("The media is the enemy of the American people." Democrat Pat Caddell)
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18 posted on 04/17/2019 1:17:42 PM PDT by samtheman (To steal an election, who do you collude with? Russians in Russia or Mexicans in California?)
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";Everything has consequences, heavenly cycles, retribution. This applies to both people and country! I only feel awe for karma, and it has nothing to do with morality.'"

The Karma Card -- you can't leave home without it.

19 posted on 04/17/2019 1:20:32 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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