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Former Marine arrested in 1976 slaying following DNA hit through genealogy site
Cox Media via WPXI ^ | June 5, 2019 | Crystal Bonvillian

Posted on 06/05/2019 10:41:04 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

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To: NorthMountain

My take on it is that they should not ever know. That was the deal when they were born. However, this guy apparently wants to know, or he probably would not have submitted his DNA.


41 posted on 06/05/2019 11:27:31 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Good. Glad he was caught. They really need to expedite trials and the start of punishment for such criminals who get tracked down many years after their crimes. It is vital that they get as much punishment as possible before a natural death takes them.


42 posted on 06/05/2019 11:28:07 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

So if one has a neer-do-well brother, pne should avoid genealogical dna? Would seem so. Essentially, you’d have to prove a negative.


43 posted on 06/05/2019 11:28:58 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (#Dregs #DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe #BuildIt)
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To: billorites

I guess there’s enough DNA on this site now that
we can all start playing Six Degrees of Bill Clinton.


44 posted on 06/05/2019 11:29:43 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

And you’re right...


45 posted on 06/05/2019 11:31:55 AM PDT by Dawgreg
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To: cuban leaf

I have only third-hand (or so) contact with this sort of thing … it seems that using lawyers as cut-outs to make the first contact is the normal way it’s done.

I’m not personally in a situation like this (that I know of) … not at all sure how I’d respond if Larry the Lawyer contacted me regarding my previously unknown illegitimate half-brother from my father’s youthful fornication (or whatever) …


46 posted on 06/05/2019 11:32:05 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: RJS1950
The murderer has to leave the DNA sample somewhere in the scene or on the victim.

No they don't.

Crooked or incompetent cops, prosecutors and crime labs can make it happen through selective analysis, cross contamination, poor record keeping...you name it.

47 posted on 06/05/2019 11:33:55 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: LTC.Ret
However, Uncle Sam doesn’t share any information with ME!!!

DoD policy is not to share their DNA information, including with law enforcement. There may have been a few exceptions, but they are exceedingly rare. Law enforcement has turned to a commercial company that maintains a DNA database built from DNA tests that have been voluntarily submitted to them by individuals. Anyone can access this database. Suspects often leaves their own DNA at the crime scene. Old fashioned detective work can work with a list of potential suspects, known relations (traditional genealogy plus online search of websites that collect information on everyone), and comparisons of the suspect's DNA and the DNA in the database. Such databases are becoming larger over time and the probability of murderers and rapists remaining on the lamb is being reduced. Good thing.

48 posted on 06/05/2019 11:34:18 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/a-reasonable-doubt/480747/
49 posted on 06/05/2019 11:35:07 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: z3n
On one hand, it’s creepy as all hell that people are being found, not just by their own DNA, but by the submissions of relatives, and who knows where this can lead.

Yep, really creepy that the police can find murderers. Better that they can remain free and have the opportunity to commit more murders.

50 posted on 06/05/2019 11:37:37 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: DiogenesLamp

51 posted on 06/05/2019 11:38:26 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (September 11, 2001 : Never forget, never forgive.)
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To: Fightin Whitey

I hope they fry this subhuman animal.


52 posted on 06/05/2019 11:38:43 AM PDT by Levy78
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

DNA scandal in California under Kamala Harris:

“Unprocessed DNA/ID rape kits in California while Kamala Harris was the state AG!”

“Kamala Harris protected a lot rapists while serving as California’s AG!”

If she had done her job as our state AG, there would not be hundreds if not thousands of DNA/ID rape Kits not processed due to quote lack of funding.

Maybe some females in California and the nation can bring this scandal forward after Kamala conveniently forgot about them.

CA ‘DNA/ID’ backlog under fire Capitol Weekly | Capitol Weekly ...
capitol weekly.net/rape-kit-backlog-under-fire/

Apr 11, 2018 - Thousands of California women who said they were raped gave ... But many of the DNA/ID rape kits were not examined in a timely way, caught in a ...

No one knows how many untested DNA/ID rape kits there are in California ...

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-rape-kits-legislation-20170525-story.html
May 26, 2017 - Assembly Bill 41 would require law enforcement agencies to report to the state how many sexual assault DNA/ID kits they collected and have examined ...
The unconscionable backlog of unprocessed rape kits in California ...

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-rape-kits-20180521-story.html
May 21, 2018 - The DNA/ID rape kit backlog is, unfortunately, not a new problem, though ... that the procedure will further the investigation, not just add to a collection of ...
Destroyed: How the trashing of DNA/ID rape kits failed victims and jeopardizes ...

www.cnn.com/interactive/2018/11/investigates/police-destroyed-rapekits/index.html
Nov 29, 2018 - Where police did not redact that information, CNN did, including the full names of ... A CNN investigation into the destruction of DNA/ID rape kits in dozens of agencies ..... of Prosecuting Attorneys and a career California prosecutor.

‘Disturbing’ DNA/ID rape kit investigation prompts action - CNN - CNN.com
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/05/health/ DNA/ID rape-kits-destroyed-reaction.../index.html

Dec 5, 2018 - A CNN investigation prompts officials to tell police: Do not destroy rape kits.

For someone who’s taken an oath to uphold, support, and defend the Constitution throughout her professional career, 2020 Democratic presidential contender Sen. Kamala Harris tends to, in the words of constitutionalist and talk host Mark Levin, “treat it like a smorgasbord,” picking the parts she likes and ignoring the parts she doesn’t.

Like not funding to process/id maybe thousands of Rape Kits in California while serving as the state’s highest ranking law enforcement person, the state’s former AG, Kamala!


53 posted on 06/05/2019 11:49:07 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Frau Mueller? "What do the Clintons, Obama and their Spygate CIA/FBI/DOJ thugs have on you???????")
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To: Roccus
I have never yet heard of a Cold Case killer sending his DNA into one of these public DNA databases. And I am sure this Marine didn't do it either, unless he is suffering from Advanced Dementia or something.

The way the story goes of how these guys get caught is something like this:

Once you have their DNA on file, and it matches 100% to the perp's DNA, you go arrest them.
54 posted on 06/05/2019 11:51:38 AM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC ("Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt" - Pr. Herbert Hoover)
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To: cuban leaf

We have 2 friends, actually wives of friends, who discovered that they had other families they did not know about.

They took a chance and met the unknown relatives and their families. Things have worked out very well.

A professional business man, we know gave the major Ancestry DNA kits to a sister and a brother. He had bought a test about a year before.

Turned out that they had
3 different Fathers. Their mother was a true 1960’s love child. The Fathers didn’t know that they sired a child with this woman.

Now all of them get together on functions.


55 posted on 06/05/2019 11:59:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Frau Mueller? "What do the Clintons, Obama and their Spygate CIA/FBI/DOJ thugs have on you???????")
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I wonder how long this is going to take.

Guy and Gal have a one night stand and never see each other again.
Gal ends up pregnant.
25 years later, guy is located and he has to pay back all those years of “child support”, plus interest.

Heck, maybe its happened already.


56 posted on 06/05/2019 11:59:53 AM PDT by afterhoursarmory
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To: cuban leaf
Maybe, just maybe it’s not so much a “mess” as you are thinking!

I know a person, adopted soon after her birth. The girl’s adopting parents wound up adopting two more children, both boys.

The adopting couple lived a very nice life in another town and all three adopted children grew up, all got college educations. Only one son wound up continuing to live in the same town where this family lived.

Ultimately, both mom and dad passed away but before dad died three or four years ago, the youngest son went on an online search to find his birth parents, each of the adopted “kids” having come from a different set of parents. The youngest son did locate his birth mom, who sadly had passed away a decade or more ago. This son encouraged his elder sister that she should research her parentage, if for no other reason than to know her familiar medical history for her children and grandchildren.

Again, this woman who helped her brother find his familial medical history, also found a DNA match for her! The match happened to come from the adopted woman’s birth sister, who never knew she even had a natural sister nor that her mom and dad had had another child!

The real sister wasn’t told about the fact that she had a natural sister, only the adopted woman who was researching her history and was given information but not the particulars other than there was a match.

The adopted daughter was given option of learning the names and other particular information regarding her adopted parents (as the birth parents as teens were “forced” to give their baby up, as this was in the late ‘40s, early ‘50s had secretly married while still underage.) They did let their parents know they had been married but their parents insisted the couple go through a “public wedding” and began living as husband and wife and had other children!

They believed their secret would never be known more than 4 decades later!

To bring this story up to now, the adopting researcher contacted the birth parents, indicating their birth child had been researching her medical family history and if they had any interest in finding out anything about her, the researcher could give her their information and arrange some sharing about one another in writing, with their secrecy kept secret first and foremost!

They did and she did and ultimately the adopted daughter met her mom and dad, their other four children and now all the extended families, including grandchildren, cousins etc. have met!

Suffice it to say, this story has opened up a marriage, baby kept secret for over 50 years and all are happily enjoying their unknown families but this would happen in all cases. When very young moms don’t know what to do and are encouraged/forced to give away babies at birth, they might be made less guilty of knowing those babies were raised in loving homes when they were prevented from provided one.

57 posted on 06/05/2019 12:00:44 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Grampa Dave

A cousin’s husband found his birth family through DNA. They visited last summer and he met his dad and siblings. They had a great time. I don’t know all the details nor how it’s worked out longer term but it was really meaningful to him.

I had a great-grandfather who had at least one child by a woman who was not my great-grandmother. I have hopes of meeting them this summer, though the relationship hasn’t yet been proven by DNA. Circumstantial evidence is pretty strong. My great-great grandfather had at least two families. He sort of appeared and then disappeared again after a few years. I’m hoping DNA is going to help us fill in a lot of blanks.


58 posted on 06/05/2019 12:07:33 PM PDT by susannah59
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To: centurion316

You didn’t read and you didn’t quote the other half of what I said... It’s basically what I said, it’s a good thing.


59 posted on 06/05/2019 12:12:13 PM PDT by z3n
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To: Grampa Dave

“true 1960’s love child” = true hippie whore.


60 posted on 06/05/2019 12:15:56 PM PDT by Levy78
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