Posted on 06/05/2019 10:41:04 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
...and you don’t even know the creepy of it yet.
Think about all the personal data aggreggation that the big tech companies are doing on people (google, apple, facebook, etc) and the 3rd party companies (and state actors) that are culling it all together, and then consider that they will eventually (if some of them arean’t already) trying to supplement their gemology DNA databases with other methods of getting DNA samples. At some point in the future, private entities will know everyone’s genome and have all that paired up with everything they buy, everywhere they’ve lived, and everyone they have crossed paths with, particularly in the social media sphere.
Then consider the fact that almost everyone gets hacked at some point, and leaked to the dark web.
The future is, you will have ZERO privacy.
Just your average everyday dumbass...
Back in the 1950’s, a genealogy search on my maternal GrandDad’s family was mailed to him by a brother.
It traced his ancestry back to England and many generations of his offspring down this Grand Dad and his brothers and sisters.
One of my cousins got interested and typed out copies for himself and a few of us. I put my copy into a file, which I kept. Years later he really got into genealogy, and he told a niece of our granddad about how interested he was getting into it. Our mutual older female cousin, our granddad’s niece warned him about finding ancestors who were horse thieves or worse.
Apparently, he found some of the worse on his Dad’s side nor his mother’s side/my side.
She apparently knew what was in his dad’s background and subtlety tried to warn her younger cousin.
You are describing the current situation. But the genie is out of the bottle and you are not going to get it back in. At least, we can find some murderers. Consolation prize.
You have know way of knowing what I read. I did read all of your post, but I made a choice in what to quote and to comment upon. Be careful of making accusations that you can't back up.
My older brother had his DNA history done through 23&me. That’s just like me having my DNA done I would think. Maybe I’m wrong but wouldn’t we have the identical DNA?
More power to ‘em for that.
Rapists too.
Real rapists. Assaults. Not the date rape that was really just a no-call-back.
Which brings up another question. Where does the line get drawn. Should one be drawn?
Forensic crime scene collection of DNA after petty larceny?
If the databases get big enough and efficient enough, I don’t see why not, as long as you can adequately prove no contamination or incidental evidence.
But again, the real danger isn’t catching criminals. That’s a pro that’s almost guaranteed to outweigh any imaginable con. The danger is when everyone’s data gets leaked to the private sector and the bad actors.
If the State needs it to be, it will be.
Most states limit how far back retroactive child support orders can look, unless there are special circumstances. Texas is four years, CA is three.
The longer a custodial parent waits, the less likely they are to prevail and the numbers will be based on the non custodial parent’s income for the years in question and not the present day, unless you can prove they were hiding income and assets.
A suit based on a 25 year wait wouldn’t make it into the courtroom, unless there were some really interesting circumstances generally only found in soap operas.
Those who request a DNA test should have control of how those results are maintained and who has access to that data. It should be treated in the same way we handle medical records (HIPPA). Ethical standards should be implemented and failure to adhere to those standards ought to expose violators to civil penalties. If insurance companies were able to access to DNA data without permission of the donor, then we would have a serious problem. I expect insurance companies to offer deep discounts to people who volunteer to give them their DNA data. I would never take such an offer, but many will line up around the block to get the discount.
Sure, been watching too many cop shows? That scenario is much different than matching to a relative’s DNA. If the cops already have a DNA sample then that provides the match and they don’t have to rely on the still rather remote chance that a close relative has submitted a sample to a genealogy service that will turn up a match and that they can place the suspect anywhere near the crime without a reasonable doubt.
Possible yes, improbable yes again.
Not just you....your relatives too.
Well, this sounds like a great idea - find killers!
Well it won’t he such a great idea when you are denied life insurance, or health insurance, or denied certain kinds of medical treatment because of the probability of success, or forced to abort a baby, or put out on an iceberg when you are old because your genetic mortality doesn’t match up with the preferred statistic of the month.
Or if you are genetically predisposed to be a conservative.
Wow. So we have to be worried if we murdered someone or committed a horrible crime in the past. Now if I could only remember everything I have done in the past. Lol. Heck, have forgotten what I did living in entire states. Lived for a state in the Pac NW USA and have absolutely no memory of it. Of course I was just a kid. So should be fine.
Oh yeah. You can bet the Farm the Chinese are already doing all of that.
I believe the Orange County District Attorney’s office is among the LEO units making use of some of the latest DNA tools.
A suspect is NOT charged based solely on relationships identified by online genealogy and dna sites.
My sister did Ancestry DNA. Via their cousin autosomal matching, a few people have contacted her.
We have estensive traditional (non-DNA) records, and every DNA cousin match checks out.
One advanced crime solving method, is using the Gedmatch online DNA database.
Another toolis using quick DNA testing analysis, like the military uses with battlefield casualties.
https://orangecountytribune.com/2017/10/31/man-killed-by-hb-police-was-a-murderer/
Orange County case solved using latest DNA methods
EVERY group has a bad apple here and there, even marines.
“If they murder and they are guilty then I believe they should be brought to justice.”
And what if that murder IS justice? If someone hurts my children I’d be far less inclined to call the cops than to put them in a hole in the ground.
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