[SeekAndFind]

Additionally, over the past 15 days, cases and deaths are both trending WAY down while recoveries trend up. A great sign of successful countermeasures policy.

[CaptainK]

Italy/USA reported deaths days 1-16

1/1
2/6
3/9
7/11
11/12
12/15
17/19
21/22
29/26
41/30
52/38
79/41
107/49
148/57
197/68
233/70

[SeekAndFind]

HERE’s THE DATA FOR THE SECOND HARDEST HIT COUNTRY — ITALY:

Italy is less encouraging than China would be quite the understatement. Italy places with 17,660 cases, 1,268 deaths and 1,439 recoveries. Italy has the highest mortality rate (in the top 20) at 7.18% and more than half its cases (10,285) were reported in the past 5 days (very bad). And of all nations with populations exceeding 500,000, Italy ranks #1 in infected rate at 0.029209 % (that’s 1 in every 3,424 people).

But it’s the past 15 days which concern me the most. 11-15 days ago, there were 1852 new cases. 6-10 days ago, 4873. And the 10,285 in the past 5 days represents 58% of the nation’s cases. Hmmmmm.

Italian fatalities in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments were 63, 286 and 902. In the latest data, they reported 252 Covid-19-related deaths.

Italian recoveries in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments were 440,440, and 817. The latest data reported 394 Covid-19 recoveries.

[jeffc]

Anyone know where we can see a side-by-side comparison of COVID-19 and the current flu? You know, infection rate, deaths per capita, etc?

[Drango]

Am I the only one that can’t read his graphics?

[Steely Tom]

Interesting story, a mix of good news and bad news.

Here's how to look at it, if you want to be cool:

All the bad news is due to the failings of Trump.

All the good news is due to the brilliance of Obama.

[DarthVader]

It looks like there have been decontamination efforts underway too. Helps alot in the suppression of the spread.

[reed13k]

Does anyone have any direct contact friends, relatives, or acquaintances that have actually contracted the virus?

I mean personal knowledge and not stuff from the “news” or a government.

I do not know of anyone in my circle, but curious to see if any Freepers have come into contact through their personal relations.

[sheehan]

average age of dead in Italy: 81

[BushCountry]

You take the early WA cases out of the equation and the mortality rate in the US is currently at .58%. South Korea which had a lot initial deaths (before any known treatment methods) is holding steady at .91%

There are over 90 pharmaceutical companies working on a cure and vaccine, several are showing great progress (not factored into the death rate), Favilavir, Remdesivir, Actemra, REGN3048-3051, HIV Drugs, Chloroquine, blood transfusions from survivors, etc.

The mortality rate will continue to decline.

[Spruce]

One of the main issues that give me concern is that our medical experts really do not have a full understanding of what this virus may be doing to people’s DNA.

[Amendment10]

Two astounding conditions have worked against Italy regarding Coronavirus imo.

One, Italy has a high number of elderly people, a high risk group for Coronavirus.

• "Italy has reported 827 coronavirus deaths. Experts say the high number is partly because Italy has more residents in the vulnerable age category. Italy has the oldest population in Europe and more elderly per capita than the U.S. Most of the Italian deaths are in patients in their 80s and 90s."

• Coronavirus: Facts vs. Panic

Also, Italy has a significant group of Chinese workers.

• "Many Italians in Northern Italy have sold their leather goods and textiles companies to China. Italy then allowed 100,000 Chinese workers from Wuhan and Wenzhou to move to Italy to work in these factories, with direct flights between Wuhan and Northern Italy [emphasis added]. This continued post outbreak, so is it mere coincidence that Northern Italy is now Europe’s hotspot for Corona Virus?"

• Coronavirus - why Italy?

Remember in November!

MAGA, also KAGA! (Keep America Great Always!)

Supporting PDJT with a new patriot Congress that will promise to fully support his already excellent work for MAGA will effectively give fast-working Trump a third term in office imo.

[faucetman]

Excellent article, again. Keep posting theses. TY

[GingisK]

It could also show that there was a lot of excitement over nothing.

[lonevoice]

If you have the time and interest to engage your square-eyed-greenshade-mode, there's an intensive data analysis at the link.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/03/covid19_the_numbers_tell_the_story.html

[DouglasKC]

Always keep in mind that China managed this by draconian actions to slow it down...mass quarantines, armed guards, etc etc.

[null and void]

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

The false positive rate was 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's or one old fart’s life, it's worth it.

[Oldeconomybuyer]

Bump

[WildHighlander57]

Thanks! Prayers UP!!!

[mom.mom]

What did Italy do during the 2016-2017 flu season where there were 24,981 deaths?

Is this season going to top that one?

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Additionally, over the past 15 days, cases and deaths [IN CHINA] are both trending WAY down while recoveries trend up. A great sign of successful countermeasures policy.

Or maybe the sign of a successful communist coverup?

I am VERY skeptical that this thing will slow down until 60%-80% of the population has been infected ("herd immunity") or a successful vaccine is administered to 60%-80% of the population and they have developed antibodies.

COVID-19 reports by Neil Ferguson, et al, Imperial College London, March 16, 2020:

Two fundamental strategies are possible: (a) mitigation, which focuses on slowing but not necessarily stopping epidemic spread – reducing peak healthcare demand while protecting those most at risk of severe disease from infection, and (b) suppression, which aims to reverse epidemic growth, reducing case numbers to low levels and maintaining that situation indefinitely. Each policy has major challenges. We find that that optimal mitigation policies (combining home isolation of suspect cases, home quarantine of those living in the same household as suspect cases, and social distancing of the elderly and others at most risk of severe disease) might reduce peak healthcare demand by 2/3 and deaths by half. However, the resulting mitigated epidemic would still likely result in hundreds of thousands of deaths and health systems (most notably intensive care units) being overwhelmed many times over. For countries able to achieve it, this leaves suppression as the preferred policy option.

We show that in the UK and US context, suppression will minimally require a combination of social distancing of the entire population, home isolation of cases and household quarantine of their family members. This may need to be supplemented by school and university closures, though it should be recognised that such closures may have negative impacts on health systems due to increased absenteeism. The major challenge of suppression is that this type of intensive intervention package – or something equivalently effective at reducing transmission – will need to be maintained until a vaccine becomes available (potentially 18 months or more) – given that we predict that transmission will quickly rebound if interventions are relaxed. We show that intermittent social distancing – triggered by trends in disease surveillance – may allow interventions to be relaxed temporarily in relative short time windows, but measures will need to be reintroduced if or when case numbers rebound. Last, while experience in China and now South Korea show that suppression is possible in the short term, it remains to be seen whether it is possible long-term, and whether the social and economic costs of the interventions adopted thus far can be reduced.

The disease will "quickly rebound if interventions are relaxed."