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Hubble Has Looked Back in Time as Far as It Can And Still Can't Find The First Stars
www.sciencealert.com ^ | NANCY ATKINSON, UNIVERSE TODAY 8 JUNE 2020

Posted on 06/08/2020 12:56:55 PM PDT by Red Badger

Astronomers don't know exactly when the first stars formed in the Universe because they haven't been observed yet. And now, new observations from the Hubble Space Telescope suggest the first stars and galaxies may have formed even earlier than previously estimated.

Why? We *still* haven't seen them, even with the best telescope we've got, pushed to its limits.

A group of researchers used Hubble to look back in time (and space) as far as it could see, hoping to study these first generation of stars of the early Universe, which are called Population III stars.

Hubble peered and squinted back to when the Universe was just 500 million years old – which is thought to be Hubble's limit — and found no evidence of these very first stars.

The name — Population III – is a little confusing. Shouldn't these first stars be called Population I stars? Let's face it, astronomers have never been great about naming things.

The name Population I had already been taken when astronomers classified the stars of the Milky Way as Population I (stars like the Sun, which are rich in heavier elements). Then, the name Population II was used to classify older stars in the Milky Way with a low heavy-element content.

And that left the name Population III to classify the stars that were forged from the primordial material that emerged from the Big Bang, approximately 13.8 billion years ago.

Population III stars must have been made solely out of hydrogen, helium and lithium, the only elements that existed before processes in the cores of these stars could create heavier elements, such as oxygen, nitrogen, carbon and iron.

Rachana Bhatawdekar of the European Space Agency led this most recent study, probing the early Universe from about 500 million to 1 billion years after the Big Bang.

They studied the star cluster MACSJ0416 (see earlier comment about astronomers naming nomenclature) and the surrounding field with the Hubble Space Telescope, along with using supporting data from NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope and the ground-based Very Large Telescope of the European Southern Observatory).

HFFIllustration of the depth by which Hubble imaged galaxies in prior Deep Field initiatives, in units of the Age of the Universe. (NASA and Feild)

These observations were part of Hubble's Frontier Fields program, which observed six distant galaxy clusters from 2012 to 2017, and produced the deepest observations ever made of galaxy clusters and the galaxies located behind them.

This was achieved by using the gravitational lensing effect, where the masses of foreground galaxy clusters are large enough to bend and magnify the light from the more distant objects behind them. This allows Hubble to use these cosmic magnifying glasses to study objects that are beyond its nominal operational capabilities.

These observations revealed galaxies between 10 to 100 times fainter than any previously observed.

Bhatawdekar and her team developed a new technique that removes the light from the bright foreground galaxies that constitute these gravitational lenses.

This allowed them to discover galaxies with lower masses than ever previously observed with Hubble, at a distance corresponding to when the Universe was less than a billion years old.

"We found no evidence of these first-generation Population III stars in this cosmic time interval," said Bhatawdekar.

"These results have profound astrophysical consequences as they show that galaxies must have formed much earlier than we thought."

Since these observations are at the limits of Hubble, it puts one more task on the to-do list for the upcoming James Webb Space Telescope.

This article was originally published by Universe Today. Read the original article.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Education; History; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; hubble; science; steadystate
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1 posted on 06/08/2020 12:56:55 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Meaning what? What’s on the outside of the known boundary? Yeah, think on that a while.


2 posted on 06/08/2020 1:03:19 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Get your houses in order.)
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To: samadams2000

God............................


3 posted on 06/08/2020 1:05:09 PM PDT by Red Badger (Always trust God............but wash your hands......................)
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To: Red Badger

The James Webb Telescope (JWT) will pick up where/when Hubble leaves off. When fully operational, the JWT will be located approx. 1 million miles from earth.


4 posted on 06/08/2020 1:05:31 PM PDT by equaviator (If it seems like it's too bad to be true, then it probably isn't.)
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To: Red Badger

The Universe began as a sort of cosmic egg in the middle of “nothing”.
The egg exploded and then spread outwards in all directions, creating the Universe we see today.
The Universe is 14B years old.
The Universe is now 93B lightyears wide
Nothing moves faster than the speed of light. Except, you know, literally EVERYTHING.


5 posted on 06/08/2020 1:08:09 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Red Badger

Space and time have not limits.
No beginning, and no end.


6 posted on 06/08/2020 1:09:03 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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What if we live in just one of many universes. The multiverse theory is very unprovable but possible.

Then there is the “rubberband” theory. Which is an expanding and contracting universe which collapses on itself and begins again, and again...

Fascinating stuff.


7 posted on 06/08/2020 1:12:04 PM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Red Badger

In the Beginning, God....


8 posted on 06/08/2020 1:13:37 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: samadams2000
What’s on the outside of the known boundary?

I don't know, but you need a photo ID to get in.

9 posted on 06/08/2020 1:13:49 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Red Badger

Since these observations are at the limits of Hubble, it puts one more task on the to-do list for the upcoming James Webb Space Telescope.

...

I think the James Webb Space Telescope is the undisputed world champion for being behind schedule and over budget.


10 posted on 06/08/2020 1:14:14 PM PDT by Moonman62 (http://www.freerepublic.com/~moonman62/)
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To: samadams2000

meaning the entire “Big Bang” paradigm is just flat out wrong


11 posted on 06/08/2020 1:15:07 PM PDT by thoughtomator (here comes the switch to Hillary)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Amen, T.N.


12 posted on 06/08/2020 1:15:31 PM PDT by newfreep
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To: Red Badger

Hypothesis 1: “galaxies must have formed much earlier than we thought.”

Hypothesis 2: The theories of the formation of the early universe that dictate when galaxies “must have” formed need to be changed.


13 posted on 06/08/2020 1:16:04 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: GreenHornet

“If you are in a spaceship that is traveling at the speed of light, and you turn on the headlights, does anything happen?”

- Steven Wright


14 posted on 06/08/2020 1:17:21 PM PDT by newfreep
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To: samadams2000

“We found no evidence of these first-generation Population III stars in this cosmic time interval,” said Bhatawdekar.

“These results have profound astrophysical consequences as they show that galaxies must have formed much earlier than we thought.”

Hmmmm...maybe your theory of the creation of the universe is wrong...like evolution, gotta keep resetting the time line to fit the pet theory?


15 posted on 06/08/2020 1:17:47 PM PDT by jagusafr
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To: samadams2000

At first glance. I think the diagram should be reversed. Hubble and the galaxies we can readily see should be at the fringe of the expanding sphere while older stars/galaxies, etc., down to the Big Bang should be at the core.

...Unless these are the things Hubble observes no matter which direction it is pointed.


16 posted on 06/08/2020 1:18:09 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Mariner

How do you know? Matter certainly does. So Hubble can’t find the light from nascent distant galaxies as expected? Then we’ll just assume it all MUST be older than previously thought and we’ll just keep moving the target from now on... because the alternative is emotionally unacceptable.


17 posted on 06/08/2020 1:18:45 PM PDT by mikeus_maximus (There's a critical difference in knowing about God, and knowing God.)
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To: newfreep

“I put instant coffee in a microwave oven and almost went back in time.”

- Steven Wright


18 posted on 06/08/2020 1:18:55 PM PDT by newfreep
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To: samadams2000

Meaning what?

...

The answer is in the article:

“These results have profound astrophysical consequences as they show that galaxies must have formed much earlier than we thought.”


19 posted on 06/08/2020 1:20:04 PM PDT by Moonman62 (http://www.freerepublic.com/~moonman62/)
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To: thoughtomator

No it just happened everywhere all at once. When he said “light be” it happened everywhere.
It has continued happening and will continue to happen until he says light stop.

This is part of what it means when it says there will be no end to his Kingdom.


20 posted on 06/08/2020 1:22:00 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (When the bad guys have leverage they often use it)
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