Fertility rate: 'Jaw-dropping' global crash in children being born

BBC ^ | July 15, 2020 | James Gallagher

[C19fan]

Falling fertility rates mean nearly every country could have shrinking populations by the end of the century. And 23 nations - including Spain and Japan - are expected to see their populations halve by 2100. Countries will also age dramatically, with as many people turning 80 as there are being born.

[C19fan]

The money quote is at the bottom of the article:

The population of sub-Saharan Africa is expected to treble in size to more than three billion people by 2100.

[ScottinVA]

Can’t blame them... no way would I ever want to bring children into this wretched, perverted world.

[Rurudyne]

Children are a blessing from the Lord.

When a society is full of selfish pukes who murder their blessings that’s gonna have dire consequences.

[DoodleBob]

Frankly, I expect we will see a Coronavirus Baby Boom around Christmas. Lemme see...can’t go out, run out of bad Netflix shows to stream, depressed when reading the interweb...hon, what do you want to do tonight?

[Cronos]

This tripling is actually slow compared to other areas that had population growth tied to economic and HDI growth

See the UK's population exploded from 8 million in 1800 to 30 million by 1900.

Similarly the area of "Germany"

Near tripling of population

similarly india went from 400 million in 1950 to 1.2 billion today

Sub-Saharan africa is now seeing the benefits of modern medicine and lesser children dying below 5, people living longer and economic growth. That will dip off from 2050 onwards.

It will cause pain, but this is not unusual.

France had explosive growth from 1500 to 1700 when, in 1700 it was 25% of the population of the entire European continent including European Russia. This lead to France with wars etc.

In the case of Africa there will be consequences, but these can be curtailed - I don't know how, but we know better than we did inthe 1700s

[BBQToadRibs]

Well, the wife and I did our part. Brought 4 of the little rug rats into the world. Thank God for alcohol.

[Cronos]

Dude, this world is less perverted, less wretched and better today in 2020 than it was in 1950

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Things are getting better

[laconic]

Good points that needed to be made. I always fall back to the Dickens quote, more applicable in this year than in almost any other I’ve lived - “it was the best of times, it was the worst of times . . .”. Nothing is static, the birth rate may rise (it has in Hungary due to leadership by PM Orban advocating and supporting larger families). One thing I have noticed in visiting manufacturers is that many of toughest, most dangerous factory jobs are now done by robots.

[ScottinVA]

All those stats notwithstanding, I’ll take the culture, family structure and stability of the 1950s as a far better time to raise children over this current era anytime.

[bigdaddy45]

Overall. But it also depends on who you were and were you lived. If you were black, and lived in Mississippi in 1950... then things weren’t so great.

[ek_hornbeck]

The money quote is at the bottom of the article: The population of sub-Saharan Africa is expected to treble in size to more than three billion people by 2100

You've probably noticed that "environmentalist" liberals only complain about "overpopulation" as a problem in Western countries, even though most Western countries are at or below zero population growth. They're just fine with population explosions in non-Western Third World countries, because their real agenda isn't about "saving the environment" or "conserving natural resources", but waging war against the way of life in Western countries.

[ek_hornbeck]

I don't really see low population growth as a problem per se. Would you really like the US to have a population density like India or China? Usually, high population densities and urbanization are associated with more regulations, bigger government, and less freedom, while wide open spaces with the opposite. That's why there aren't red and blue states, but rather red (rural) and blue (urban) counties. The overall quality of life - from higher pay for work (more competition for labor) and the cost of living (especially property) is lower as well.

The real problem is the population explosions in many Third World countries creating surpluses that their decrepit economies and infrastructures simply can't support, which leads them all clamoring to come here or to Europe. What will happen when the population of sub-Saharan Africa increases 2 or 3-fold with Europe and possibly the US as well wide open?

[HangnJudge]

Ping thread for useful statistics

[Cronos]

“I’ll take the culture, family structure and stability of the 1950s “

That depends on where - the USA wasn’t devastated by war or just newly independent so things were pretty good.

But even in the USA it depended on where.

Stability is changing because things are improving - new technology etc.

[Cronos]

I wrote my piece before reading what you wrote! I agree with you 100%

[captmar-vell]

Well Said,

A vain lawless adulterous selfie-stick generation full of Soros Nazi reprobates destroying their own history has not long to stand,

[Cronos]

correct, the USA has a population density of 35/km², China has 148/km² and india 420/km²

[ScottinVA]

Oh, sure...technology is improving, but societally, things are in rapid decline.

[Cronos]

As to “what will happen” — we already saw that in Europe with the economic migrants from 2011 to 2018.

They came in waves. HOWEVER, the numbers have collapsed due to four reasons

1. better policing of the borders between the EU and outside
2. Better co-operation with Libya etc. who intercept the migrants (and sadly enslave them)
3. Better economic growth within sub-saharan africa
4. More news and horror stories heading back to sub-saharan africa telling people “if you try to go illegally, you will be enslaved, and even if you get there, there are no jobs”

If an economic migrant from Africa no matter how hard-working or law-abiding comes to say Italy illegally, he will not find a job.

Italy is highly automated - you will be hard-pressed to find low-skilled jobs. That means that a large chunk of ITALIANs are unemployed.

For low-skilled Africans, this will not help them - they can’t find jobs in legal or even illegal work. So they are pretty much enslaved or head back with no money. the word goes around.

Instead they are heading to Nigeria, Senegal etc. where the economy is growing.

[American in Israel]

You are a far better reporter than 99% of the MSM.