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These thoughts have been on my mind for quite some time now. I'd like to hear your thoughts as well.
1 posted on 01/19/2021 4:38:09 PM PST by rfreedom4u
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Some here on FR think membership in the United States is like membership in a prison gang or the mafia. You can join but can’t leave.


2 posted on 01/19/2021 4:40:26 PM PST by Spirochete
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Since we really haven’t been under the constitution for about 100 years, your not really seceding from the United States as describe in the constitution. Any state can just say they are reverting back to the original republic.


4 posted on 01/19/2021 4:43:07 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (spooks won on day 76)
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The Union is what made our country.

It was the Union that Washington was concerned about when he worked with Madison on the ideas behind the Constitution. It was the Union that made Lincoln fight so hard during his presidency.

The Union makes us unique among nations. Secession is a bad idea.

5 posted on 01/19/2021 4:43:33 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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Secession is connected one of the founding principles: Government by consent.

The people determine the government, not the other way around.

The colonies seceded from Great Britain.


6 posted on 01/19/2021 4:44:09 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is the last legally elected U.S. President.)
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In Texas v. White (1869), the Supreme Court ruled that secession was unconstitutional unless the other states consented.
7 posted on 01/19/2021 4:44:20 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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Costa Rica and Bali are legal.


8 posted on 01/19/2021 4:46:13 PM PST by Jolla
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I thought Texas specifically retained the right to secede when they joined the Union


9 posted on 01/19/2021 4:46:50 PM PST by eyeamok
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This kind of question tend to be answered on the battlefield.


12 posted on 01/19/2021 4:48:50 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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The productive states are tired of supporting the unproductive states; but the unproductive states control the courts, so secession will be ruled illegal.

I, personally, do not think secession is illegal. But, I have no say in the matter.


16 posted on 01/19/2021 4:49:34 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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Leaving is legal. It’s not a suicidal pact. It may take violence to leave.


18 posted on 01/19/2021 4:50:06 PM PST by wgmalabama (I will post less and thinking more from here on out. If this is Gods judgment, then so let it be. )
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Bkmk


20 posted on 01/19/2021 4:50:45 PM PST by sauropod ("No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain)
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Bkmk


21 posted on 01/19/2021 4:50:45 PM PST by sauropod ("No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain)
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Texit?


23 posted on 01/19/2021 4:50:47 PM PST by Lite
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Who decides legality or illegality? CornPop....Heels Up...Schumer?

If Texas votes to leave, I’m thinking they’re going to have some company. I’m just hoping that Georgia, even with the corrupt POSs we have as our elected representatives, goes with them.


24 posted on 01/19/2021 4:51:10 PM PST by qaz123
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This country was established as the result of a secession movement. The notion that secession is somehow “illegal” by any objective measure is ludicrous.


27 posted on 01/19/2021 4:52:19 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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“Legal” is not a word that applies to secession.

Does not matter.

My son, the word ‘legal’ has nothing to do with evaluating whether or not an action is just or right.


29 posted on 01/19/2021 4:54:16 PM PST by bakeneko
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It’s legal. Most everyone in the early days believed it was. It’s a very important part of being free imo.


31 posted on 01/19/2021 4:56:10 PM PST by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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It is if you win.

L


32 posted on 01/19/2021 4:56:39 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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Having been a policeman, you often run into the conflict between doing what is ‘legal’ and doing what is just and right.

Before there were cameras everywhere LEO’s could decide between them in particular street incidents; it was called ‘discretion’.

Can’t do that anymore.

But for secession, ask yourself, all of the BS foisted on We the People by Congress for the past 50 years...Was it ‘legal’? Certainly. Was it Just or Right? Well..


34 posted on 01/19/2021 5:00:28 PM PST by bakeneko
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I don’t think there will ever be permission. If it comes to it, you prepare for consequences and do it.


35 posted on 01/19/2021 5:00:40 PM PST by teevolt
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