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Kobe Bryant helicopter pilot had spatial disorientation in deadly crash: NTSB
Fox Television 11 Los Angeles ^ | February 9, 2021 | Kelli Johnson

Posted on 02/10/2021 12:05:14 PM PST by L.A.Justice

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To: QBFimi
Almost a year of his life airborne? Flight instructor? And this happens? Yeah, OK...

Yep,with all of his experience, training and an instructor. He thought, "yea I got this" and made a rookie mistake and flew into IFR conditions thinking I can do this.

21 posted on 02/10/2021 12:58:09 PM PST by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: freeandfreezing
What is surprising to me is that a helicopter pilot with over 8000 hours did not have even minimal IFR skills.

Helicopter pilots in many areas don't fly IFR but especially so in sunny areas. That said, I don't think his deficient IFR skills got him; his unwillingness to say no to a high profile client is more likely the culprit.

22 posted on 02/10/2021 1:19:13 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: L.A.Justice
It's scary how easily you can lose orientation in an aircraft.

A person thinks that it would be unlikely they could become confused about whether they are flying level, climbing or descending..or turning.. but when the visibility is poor or nonexistent and then add in rain that is coming in sideways, or snow..and your brain simply fails at orientation.

That's why the instrumentation exists....in adverse conditions you must trust the instruments.

I like glass cockpits but it is still wise to have the basic instruments backed up by a few old-fashioned analog instruments...just in case.

This is a sweet glass panel but the old-fashioned instruments you see are still a must IMO.


23 posted on 02/10/2021 1:20:07 PM PST by Bobalu (When I die I want to be buried in Chicago so I can stay active in politics)
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To: L.A.Justice

“Get There itis” is lethal in aviation


24 posted on 02/10/2021 1:23:54 PM PST by HangnJudge (Amen (Awomen) brother!)
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To: QBFimi

In the fog, yeah. Nobody is perfect, no matter how much flight time they have. Especially if their inner ear decides to get it wrong.


25 posted on 02/10/2021 1:23:58 PM PST by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: lee martell
Is “Merry Widow” Vanessa still looking for more $ payouts? Sometimes planes do crash, especially under those weather conditions.

I don't know how much she will get if she wins the lawsuit...In my opinion, not "too much"...Other families have filed lawsuits as well...

26 posted on 02/10/2021 1:38:50 PM PST by L.A.Justice ( )
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To: freeandfreezing

Yeah, at the time of the accident I didn’t get why the fog gave this guy such a problem. He seemed pretty experienced. A glance at the instruments is all it takes.


27 posted on 02/10/2021 1:39:03 PM PST by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: Magnum44

In Army flight school we had it drummed into us,

“BELIEVE YOUR INSTRUMENTS!!”

Those who heeded had no problems. Inside a TH-13T when inadvertent IMC made it look like the inside of a light bulb, the instruments told a different story than the seat of one’s pants.

“You have 178 seconds to live” should be required viewing by all pilots.


28 posted on 02/10/2021 1:48:13 PM PST by elcid1970 ("Pres. Trump doesn't wear glasses. That's because he's got 2020.")
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To: L.A.Justice

8,577 hours??? How is it even possible for any pilot anywhere to even log 1500 hours not and get IFR rated??? Its not that big of a deal. This pilot had his PPL-SEL (Private Pilot License - Single Engine Land), Commercial License, Multi-Engine license, and Rotorwing License. The article didnt mention those but...comeon folks...8,577 hours is a LOT of flight time. Were they able to do tox test on the pilot?


29 posted on 02/10/2021 1:50:57 PM PST by know.your.why (If you dont watch the MSM you are uninformed. If you do watch the MSM you are misinformed.)
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To: L.A.Justice

Biden has spatial disorientation all the time. Just sayin’.


30 posted on 02/10/2021 1:58:40 PM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: Bonemaker

Happens a lot with new pilots. They know enough to be dangerous.


31 posted on 02/10/2021 2:06:13 PM PST by Yorlik803
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To: L.A.Justice; All

Barring Flight Data Recorder data that indicates a late unusual attitude, the NTSB cannot possbly know whether or not the pilot experienced spatial disorientation.
It is more likely that he totally lost terrain awareness.


32 posted on 02/10/2021 2:32:13 PM PST by A strike ( McConnell and Pence to Gitmo. Barr and Fauxi to Florence supermax. Roberts to Terre Haute.)
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To: Yorlik803

At least thats what Hillary told them to say happened.


33 posted on 02/10/2021 2:43:26 PM PST by Delta 21 (Get off your ass and earn it!)
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To: L.A.Justice

Give it up. The pilot is innocent and deserves prayers and pity, since he was pressured to fly by stupid Kobe. The storm that crashed the helicopter was intense. No helicopter belongs in storms like that.


34 posted on 02/10/2021 3:08:00 PM PST by Falconspeed
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To: L.A.Justice

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35 posted on 02/10/2021 3:53:25 PM PST by GOP Poet (Super cool you can change your tag line EVERYTIME you post!! :D. (Small things make me happy))
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To: L.A.Justice

The name Zobayan is Armenian and Kobe’s pilot was one of only 22 people in the US at that time with the name. Armenia is a small country just east of Turkey.


36 posted on 02/10/2021 4:26:18 PM PST by Cen-Tejas
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To: painter

There was a piece that came out about a month after this happened by an Air Force helicopter pilot, thousands of hours, instructor, the whole deal, and he recounts how he came seconds from this happening to him in pretty much the same area.


37 posted on 02/10/2021 4:32:11 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: Falconspeed
There's no evidence that Kobe pressured him. Kobe booked the helicopter, showed up at the airport and got on board. The pilot probably felt the pressure of not wanting to disappoint their biggest client, but no one has claimed that the pilot didn't want to go and Kobe harangued him into it against his judgement.

And it wasn't a storm, much less an "intense" storm. It was a calm Southern California day with a heavier-than-usual coastal morning fog. That's it.

38 posted on 02/10/2021 4:37:28 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: L.A.Justice

That is the most speculative and least fact-based crash investigation report I have ever seen.

If you can’t ascertain a cause but the pilot was killed, just blame him. It gets you off the hook and he can’t argue about it.


39 posted on 02/10/2021 4:42:49 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

We visited that area in late September 2019. Had breakfast at Paradise Cove Beach Cafe (Sand Castle of Rockford Files), then drove over the mountains into Simi Valley to the Reagan Library. Sunny as could be at the beach, but the fog up in the Santa Monica mountains was so thick we had to slow way down. I would hate to have been flying in it.


40 posted on 02/10/2021 4:44:16 PM PST by abb
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