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An NTSB official described the spatial disorientation Zobayan likely experienced in the clouds the moments before taking a left into a Calabasas hillside in the Santa Monica mountains. Notably, Zobayan was not authorized to fly in heavy clouds.

The NTSB said Zobayan experienced an illusion called "The Leans," which gives a pilot the perception of flying straight and level when actually in a turn.

Investigators focused heavily on the moments of the flight that occured after Zobayan entered the Van Nuys airspace and said his actions "were not consistent with his training." Zobayan was an experienced pilot who logged 8,577 hours of flying. He was also up-to-date on his certifications and was qualified to fly under Visual Flight Rules (VFR)

I guess the pilot really screwed up...

1 posted on 02/10/2021 12:05:14 PM PST by L.A.Justice
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To: L.A.Justice

That happened to JFK Jr. Lost orientation and flew into the sea.


2 posted on 02/10/2021 12:08:22 PM PST by Yorlik803
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To: L.A.Justice

No Allahu aching back recording?


3 posted on 02/10/2021 12:11:19 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is Joe McCarthy now that we desperately need him sober?)
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To: L.A.Justice

Almost a year of his life airborne? Flight instructor? And this happens? Yeah, OK...


4 posted on 02/10/2021 12:15:31 PM PST by QBFimi (It is not your responsibility to finish the work of perfecting the world... Tarfon)
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To: L.A.Justice

Is “Merry Widow” Vanessa still looking for more $ payouts?
Sometimes planes do crash, especially under those weather conditions.


5 posted on 02/10/2021 12:17:16 PM PST by lee martell
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To: L.A.Justice
"I guess the pilot really screwed up... "

Because Kobe was halfway up his VFR-only pipe and Zobayan refused to let the autopilot handle the climb.

6 posted on 02/10/2021 12:18:15 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress)
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To: L.A.Justice
There were opportunities along the way to have reversed the course and prevented this crash by simply landing

Yep, pushed it too far into fog and clouds an made a boneheaded rookie mistake.

7 posted on 02/10/2021 12:19:02 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: L.A.Justice

I was an Avionics Technician in the USAF.
They have these cute little things in your instrument panel.
The guy had to be looking at them. When they are working they do NOT lie. Altitude, attitude, direction, engine info, and other things you need to operate when you can’t see or know if you are upside down or not, or in a slow turn.
Hard to believe a guy with lots of stick time didn’t look at his instruments when he was flying blind.


9 posted on 02/10/2021 12:24:23 PM PST by rellic
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To: L.A.Justice

Spatial disorientation, I know the feeling flying IFR. Without instruments flying is impossible. I figured that hillside came out of nowhere for that pilot.


10 posted on 02/10/2021 12:24:24 PM PST by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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"There were opportunities along the way to have reversed the course and prevented this crash by simply landing," NTSB Chairman Robert Sumwalt said.

But the client was a multi-millionaire who had hired the pilot for countless flights. The pilot probably hated the thought of disappointing Bryant, his young daughter and several of her young friends, all of whom he was ferrying to a girl's basketball game which Bryant was coaching and the girls were playing in.

A real shame - it was pretty shocking to me, since I'd been watching an in-depth Kobe interview with Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson the night before.
12 posted on 02/10/2021 12:25:30 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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He flew into a hillside in the fog. Why can’t they just say that?.................


14 posted on 02/10/2021 12:31:59 PM PST by Red Badger (SLEAZIN' is the REASON for the TREASON .................................)
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It's scary how easily you can lose orientation in an aircraft.

A person thinks that it would be unlikely they could become confused about whether they are flying level, climbing or descending..or turning.. but when the visibility is poor or nonexistent and then add in rain that is coming in sideways, or snow..and your brain simply fails at orientation.

That's why the instrumentation exists....in adverse conditions you must trust the instruments.

I like glass cockpits but it is still wise to have the basic instruments backed up by a few old-fashioned analog instruments...just in case.

This is a sweet glass panel but the old-fashioned instruments you see are still a must IMO.


23 posted on 02/10/2021 1:20:07 PM PST by Bobalu (When I die I want to be buried in Chicago so I can stay active in politics)
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“Get There itis” is lethal in aviation


24 posted on 02/10/2021 1:23:54 PM PST by HangnJudge (Amen (Awomen) brother!)
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8,577 hours??? How is it even possible for any pilot anywhere to even log 1500 hours not and get IFR rated??? Its not that big of a deal. This pilot had his PPL-SEL (Private Pilot License - Single Engine Land), Commercial License, Multi-Engine license, and Rotorwing License. The article didnt mention those but...comeon folks...8,577 hours is a LOT of flight time. Were they able to do tox test on the pilot?


29 posted on 02/10/2021 1:50:57 PM PST by know.your.why (If you dont watch the MSM you are uninformed. If you do watch the MSM you are misinformed.)
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To: L.A.Justice

Biden has spatial disorientation all the time. Just sayin’.


30 posted on 02/10/2021 1:58:40 PM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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Barring Flight Data Recorder data that indicates a late unusual attitude, the NTSB cannot possbly know whether or not the pilot experienced spatial disorientation.
It is more likely that he totally lost terrain awareness.


32 posted on 02/10/2021 2:32:13 PM PST by A strike ( McConnell and Pence to Gitmo. Barr and Fauxi to Florence supermax. Roberts to Terre Haute.)
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To: L.A.Justice

Give it up. The pilot is innocent and deserves prayers and pity, since he was pressured to fly by stupid Kobe. The storm that crashed the helicopter was intense. No helicopter belongs in storms like that.


34 posted on 02/10/2021 3:08:00 PM PST by Falconspeed
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bookmark


35 posted on 02/10/2021 3:53:25 PM PST by GOP Poet (Super cool you can change your tag line EVERYTIME you post!! :D. (Small things make me happy))
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The name Zobayan is Armenian and Kobe’s pilot was one of only 22 people in the US at that time with the name. Armenia is a small country just east of Turkey.


36 posted on 02/10/2021 4:26:18 PM PST by Cen-Tejas
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That is the most speculative and least fact-based crash investigation report I have ever seen.

If you can’t ascertain a cause but the pilot was killed, just blame him. It gets you off the hook and he can’t argue about it.


39 posted on 02/10/2021 4:42:49 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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