Posted on 03/12/2023 7:55:41 AM PDT by logi_cal869
Monkeys in modern-day Thai forests create stone artifacts uncannily similar to those crafted by early humans — challenging the established narrative of human cultural evolution.
A new study published on Friday in Science Advances suggests the possibility that a critical hallmark of human tool use happened by accident — potentially blurring the line between tool use by early humans and our primate relatives.
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In an abandoned oil palm plantation on a national park site, the monkeys would create nut-cracking ‘stations’ beneath the feral trees.
There they break open the palm fruit’s oil-rich pit between hand-wielded hammer rocks and a thick, flat stone that functions as an anvil.
Camera traps showed that when the nut-cracking monkeys miss a strike, the two stones bang together.
That collision sometimes strikes a flake off of one of the rocks — something very similar to the toolmaking process archeologists call “knapping.”
Ancient humans used knapping to break apart rocks to create an incredibly flexible set of tools — the earliest forms of which cannot be distinguished from the ones macaques made by accident.
That points to a possibility that could throw a wrench into the established narrative, Luncz said: that “all the conoidal flakes we find in the archaeological record — deemed to be intentionally made — could be unintentional byproducts.”
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Are you paying attention, Hawass? This is how it's done. /s
this science isn’t settled either?
shocking!
“...our primate relatives...”
Sorry Charlie, the ONLY thing is that we had the same creator.
WE are NOT monkeys’ uncle.
No, the idea is that monkeys are our uncles.
And certainly there is human behavior that...
Hell, birds use cars to crack nuts with. Seagulls use rocks to open clams. Monkeys cracking nuts…Won’t belong now before they’re all putting together the bird/ monkey Apollo 11.
Monkeys cracking nuts on rocks. Call me when they start making fires to cook their meals.
Honey badgers drag logs to a wall and stand them on end up agaisnt the wall to climb out
Lots of animals have abi.ity to think and use tools- we however were created knowing far more tan Animals with their abi,ity to use rudimentary “tools”
Palestinians can almost do that
I’ve got a rock that was probably used by humans to hammer clams. It was probably used concurrently with some pretty intricate points.
Creationism and evolutionism need not be mutually exclusive.
In fact, if I had the power to create anything, I’d create the process of reproduction, and the process of natural selection (evolution).
For example, why make millions of full grown oak trees, and keep replacing them whenever they die, when I can create a few acorns with the means to grow, proliferate, and even improve themselves?
I remember watching all of those movies in the theater when they came out. Roddy McDowall and Kim Hunter should have received Oscar’s for projecting force of personality through all of the makeup, because even Boris Karloff in Frankenstein had a more human face. Eric Braeden was a great villain, not because he was inherently evil, but that he saw the existential threat and wanted to protect humanity. I want so say, that picture was one of the best scenes in the movie. Ricardo Montalban saving of Caeser at the end showed that when you know that your government has done the wrong thing, that doesn’t mean you have to obey them. For the younger readers out there, this film came out a few years after the assassination of Bobby Kennedy, The assassination of Rev. Martin Luther king, the riots that insued, the Vietnam War was on and we had gone into Cambodia, National Guard troops had shot students at Kent State during a protest. Black activist Angela Davis had been acquitted by an all white jury of charges brought against her by the FBI under Hoover. Times they were a changing, and like all good science fiction stories, this one addressed current events by metaphor. If you know the history of the times, there are lots of subtle and not so subtle jabs at society in this movie. One of the missed things that is glossed over is that the astronauts in the original planet of the apes abandon their spacecraft. In this one the Apes are able to repair and launch it. Perhaps only Eric Braedan’s character has a grasp of the significance of this. The apes are damn smart.
It’s also amazing what a crow can do.
Saw where a crow that in order to get a drink of water from a narrow necked bottle would drop pebbles into the bottle until the water level would rise to where it could get to the water.
Saw where a crow would drop different shaped blocks into a cube that had the same shaped cutouts.🤔
“Call me when they start making fires to cook their meals.”
A National Geographical Article explains how several species of birds of prey in Australia intentionally spread fire as a feeding mechanism. The birds will find a live fire, and pick up a stick and drop it into a flammable area, causing a fire that flushes out prey, leading to easy feeding.
The thought is that this behavior probably started because the birds would naturally benefit from wildfires, and somewhere along the line realized they could spread the fire.
So it’s apparent that humans aren’t the only animals to use fire as a tool. However, I’m not sure if there is any documented case of a wild animal starting fire on their own.
Evolution takes time.
Wy69
They can’t buy domestic?
Good morning
Evolution is a lie!
Love you guys. Have a great Sunday
No, it doesn't. It shows that humans and living monkeys have a common ancestor, and banging rocks together came from that ancestor. But thanks for playing.
Nice blade! Thanks for those comments.
Get Your hands Off Me
You Filthy Ape !
That one’s a beauty. The ones I’ve seen in pictures are usually on the dull side when it comes to color and not quite as refined in shape.
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