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Jim Quinn: It's Not A Lie If You Believe It
Blacklisted News ^ | 12/31/22 | Jim Quinn

Posted on 06/10/2023 12:24:04 PM PDT by DallasBiff

“The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became the truth.” – George Orwell, 1984

“Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth.” ― Aldous Huxley, Brave New World

I wish I could go through a day without having to reference Orwell and Huxley when observing how the ruling class is able to manipulate, subjugate, and propagandize the willfully ignorant masses through lies, deceptions, disinf

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Society
KEYWORDS: 1984; georgeorwell; jacksmith; lie
Jack Smith and Garland are following the ruling class in 1984 to a tee.
1 posted on 06/10/2023 12:24:04 PM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

I believe George Costanza was a fan of that line.


2 posted on 06/10/2023 12:25:48 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: crusty old prospector

Yes he was and was prophetic in a way.


3 posted on 06/10/2023 12:31:33 PM PDT by DallasBiff (Apology not accepted.la is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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To: DallasBiff
[T]hey did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2 Thessalonians 2:10-12

4 posted on 06/10/2023 12:34:32 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: DallasBiff

The 3 greatest and most awesome powers of the media - Report on it, Ignore it, or Lie about it!

If the mediots ignore it or lie about the event, “Did it really happen?”

“The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became the truth!” – George Orwell, 1984


5 posted on 06/10/2023 12:50:51 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We have no shortage of experts, who state things as fact, but really have no idea!)
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To: DallasBiff

It may not be a lie if you truly believe it, but believing a falsehood does not make it true.


6 posted on 06/10/2023 12:51:46 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: DallasBiff

The 3 greatest and most awesome powers of the media - Report on it, Ignore it, or Lie about it!

If the mediots ignore it or lie about the event, “Did it really happen?”

“The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became the truth!” – George Orwell, 1984


7 posted on 06/10/2023 12:52:07 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We have no shortage of experts, who state things as fact, but really have no idea!)
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To: DallasBiff

alternate

If you’re going to tell a lie, you must believe the lie.


8 posted on 06/10/2023 1:07:23 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (wake me up when somebody tells the truth)
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To: DallasBiff

alternate

If you’re going to tell a lie, you must believe the lie.


9 posted on 06/10/2023 1:07:39 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (wake me up when somebody tells the truth)
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To: DallasBiff

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10 posted on 06/10/2023 1:10:24 PM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: crusty old prospector

So was Josef Goebbels.


11 posted on 06/10/2023 1:26:30 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: crusty old prospector

12 posted on 06/10/2023 2:04:06 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: DallasBiff

As a citizen of Oceania, and a member of the ENGSOC Party, I deny that.


13 posted on 06/10/2023 2:09:42 PM PDT by silent majority rising
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To: GingisK

Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Obamao. Globull warming is great example. It causes everything from ingrown toe nails to forest fires in Canada.


14 posted on 06/10/2023 2:33:01 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: DallasBiff

15 posted on 06/10/2023 2:36:28 PM PDT by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: DallasBiff
The Oxford English Dictionary definition of "a lie" is:

"... a false statement made with intent to deceive...."

If you believe it to be true, ipso facto neither are you aware that it is false, nor are you stating it with intent to deceive.

Costanza was correct.

16 posted on 06/10/2023 3:31:00 PM PDT by threefinger
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To: DallasBiff
18 U.S. Code § 1621 - Perjury generally

(1) having taken an oath before a competent tribunal, officer, or person, in any case in which a law of the United States authorizes an oath to be administered, that he will testify, declare, depose, or certify truly, or that any written testimony, declaration, deposition, or certificate by him subscribed, is true, willfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true; [emphasis added] ...

...is guilty of perjury and shall, except as otherwise expressly provided by law, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both....


By federal law, belief is a defense against perjury.


If you in good faith give an incorrect answer to a question on a history exam, have you lied?

It's the same principle.

17 posted on 06/10/2023 4:21:06 PM PDT by threefinger
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To: DallasBiff

I wish I could go through a day without having to reference Orwell and Huxley when observing how the ruling class is able to manipulate, subjugate, and propagandize the willfully ignorant masses through lies, deceptions, disinformation, and fear
^^This^^
Frustrating that they keep getting away with this destructive behavior.


18 posted on 06/10/2023 6:05:10 PM PDT by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness )
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To: threefinger

If you repeat a lie, believing it to be true, it may not be perjury, but it is still a lie.


19 posted on 06/10/2023 8:36:11 PM PDT by c-five
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To: c-five

I remember a set of lines from the old Kung Fu TV show.

“The Chang Family are traitors.”
“ That is false, The Chang’s are loyal.”
“The Emperor’s edict has made it true, they are traitors.”

Today:
“Trump is a traitor.”
“No, he is a true American, a patriot.”
“Garland and the DoJ has said he is a traitor so it must be true.”


20 posted on 06/11/2023 12:19:20 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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