Posted on 06/13/2023 3:15:19 PM PDT by Jonty30
Yes, exactly.
I do not know for sure, as the Jewish people are very secretive and protective of all their various sects, and can only tell you what I have been taught by others. That there was a section of Jews, who went to Babylon, and became known as the Babylonian Jews, where they were corrupted and taught to follow non-Biblical scripture. These Jews wrote their own separate texts, originally the Babylonian Talmud, and eventually under the name Kabbalah, wherein they believe in a different supreme being that that of the Torah (Old Testament), known as ein sof.
The pale of settlement relative to the Ukrane - Russia war? Curious.
“...what I have been taught by others.”
May I ask if they were Torah-believing Jews, these others? We are not secretive. Feel free to ask me anything. Public or private.
Phinneous
I can see that, since Babylon has been a factor in opposition to God since the time of Nimrod. I can see them being the root cause of all this.
Thank you. That helps clarify things.
They were Christians, all of whom warned me of the Babylonian/Sabatean/Kabbalist Jews, who are supposedly separate from the Torah Jews, or Messianic Jews, who are falling out of favor. Whenever I’ve tried to get clarity from actual Jews, they seem to talk in riddles.
The Khazarians were a violent, warlike people from Asia who migrated to the north end of the Caspian Sea in the 1st century BC. The Khazars were so violent they quickly amassed nearly 1,000,000 square miles by conquering the agrarian societies in the Caucasus region. The Khazarian kingdom encompassed what is now Ukraine and parts of Eastern Europe.
interesting—SOROS...
A JEW who helped the Nazi’s kill and confiscate other jews property-
changed his name to hide..
went to England - made a fortune-
now proclaims to be an Atheist- hates Christians AND Jews
what a lovable guy
But, your link is different so I'll sure give it a read...
So very true. And we have our own local Nazi shill here, pushing old disproved lies with his link to the Khazar article, complete with euphemisms for Jews and outright blatant lies. You identify him as an old antisemitic radical. He'd be right at home in the midst of the original Nazis. He pollutes this site with his unseemly hatred.
Sort of like upChuck Schumer and Diane Feinstein?
Yes. Much of Hollywood as well.
BFT
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
You know nothing but how to fabricate fairy tales. I can only imagine who these "others" who taught you were. There were Jews exiled under duress to Babylon. In the year 423 BCE, the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar lay siege to Israel and laid waste to the city of Jerusalem. His soldiers forcibly marched 10,000 of the most elite scholars and religious leaders to Babylon, to exile. The common folk were left under the rule of King Zedekiah. A rebellion against the rule of Nebuchadnezzar arose. The prophet Jeremiah begged the people to stop their rebellion, but they would not listen. Nebuchadnezzar set his soldiers upon them and crushed the rebellion, sending this remainder of the Jewish people also to Babylon. Jewish communities then arose in Babylon, with great scholarship in Torah.
The Five Books, plus Prophets and Writings make up the Written Torah, while the Oral Law is a legal commentary on the Written Torah, explaining how its commandments are to be carried out. Without such explanations, the observances specified in the Written Torah would be rather vague to be able to follow. The Oral Law is organized into sections of Jewish law making up the Mishna. The Mishna, plus the commentaries and discussions of it (the Gemara), together comprise the Talmud.
Kabbalah is not to be confused in the way you present. Kabbalah is the mystical aspect of Judaism, and is only to be studied by the finest scholars of the Torah. For the average Jew, the requirement is to observe G-d's delineated Mitzvos (precepts) to the best of their ability. In no way is there any belief in a "different Supreme Being"! That is pure blasphemy. The ein sof is a name given to G-d which refers to His aspect which is apart from the world He created; His pure essence. It is a term used by those who endeavor in the study of Kabbalah.
Late seeing this and on a phone, but if you want I can unravel the mystery for you.
What church are you from?
It doesn’t appear we’ll be able to agree on this, but the definition of supreme is to exist on a higher level, and in these teachings, this supposed entity ein sof is on a higher level of existence than the God of The Bible. These teachings were conceived centuries after The Bible, as well, which lead many to believe they are the blasphemy, not The Bible. Obviously the debate won’t settled here, but my my framing of it still appears accurate to me. Have a good day.
Sure, go ahead. Southern Baptist.
Your framing is based on profound ignorance. There are so many subtle layers I left out to make my explanation more understandable. The ein sof IS simply another aspect of the same G-d who rules over the universe. It's not a different or "supreme" G-d. Same one. Here's a suggestion: don't try to understand something really profound and sophisticated of another religion, something which takes many years of extensive study, based on "somebody's" posits. Someone who obviously lacks these years of profound study under masters, from what you repeat of their information. If you insist on sticking to their misinformation as true, then do not promulgate it as Judaism.
The descendants of Abraham were pointed towards the coming of The Messiah. The fact that they could look him in the face and deny him, means they were full of the enemy, and serve him only. Already, the Sadduccees and Pharisees were worshipping the process of sacrifices, and myriads of laws. The Torah is simple, it is easy to follow by the law, but the Spirit is missing in them. They condemn themselves by refusing the Gift they profess to wait for.
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