Posted on 06/13/2023 3:15:19 PM PDT by Jonty30
Revelations 3:9
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
However, they are not Jewish on the inside, in their heart. They want the blessings of the Torah which, if every person kept, we could create a beautiful world. They just don't want the obligations of the Torah. They resent the obligations.
I think their attraction to socialism is their attempt to create the world based on the Torah, but at the same time be free from the Torah.
I will read it with delight and concern.
A pretty loaded question which should attract some pretty wild answers probably.
This is the church age of “Smyrna” (”crushed myrrh”) which is the suffering church from which was written Fox’s “Book of Martyrs”, probably around 100AD-312AD.
Not sure what the role of the non-believing Jews was during that time.
What a Satanic thread. Yuck
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They were Jews in Smyrna and Sardis who were at odds with the Church of Smyrna and Sardis. In fact, in time of the early Church, and the only NT Churches that existed where in Italy, Greece, The Levant and the Roman provinces of Asia (which is modern West Turkey)
Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9 are saying that the Jews who were the people of God in the OT prefigured the Church in NT which is God’s instrument to gather all peoples together in the Church, which is Christ body and bride.
In fact, “bow down” is used there, the Greek word is “proskunēsousin” which means to reverence, honor by prostrating bowing down. The root word is Proskeneuo which is used in MT 4:10 which English bibles translate as “worship” and serve is translated at “Latreuo”
Latreuo is related to service directed to God alone, that is Liturgical sacred worship with priests since God only has priests.
There have always been non-believing Jews since the time that Abraham had sons. Non-believing Jews have always vexxed Israel were always prone to wandering away from the Torah and adopting the beliefs of the world. They are the ones who brought in Baal worship into the heart of Israel, from time to time.
I don’t know how to ask this question without it being loaded, other than to say that I’m not believing that they are Torah observant Jews. I tried to make it clear that the Torah is the key to a beautiful world, even though it’s probably just a fraction of what God would have liked to have revealed to us.
Revelations is a dual-time prophecy, with both its revealings for the present it was written in, but also applicable to the end times of the world.
I don’t believe that the Jews from Satan’s synagogue just meant one synagogue in a time of John. I do believe that they also exist now.
Fox’s book of martyrs has nothing to do with the Church of Smyrna. They were not WASPS (White Anglo Saxon Protestants). There was no Church North of the Alps at the time of the NT, the only places the NT Church existed in Europe was Italy and Greece.
The title of the book is Revelation, not Revelations.
Makes one wonder how much you know about the book of Act, Roman, or Hebrew....
**There was no Church North of the Alps at the time of the NT, the only places the NT Church existed in Europe was Italy and Greece.**
Asia minor (modern day Turkey), where all seven churches of Revelation were located, was not Greece. Acts 8 shows an Ethiopian eunuch receiving the message of Jesus Christ and the conversion he commands, who took the gospel back to his home country. Paul’s conversion happened in Damascus, Syria, where the church was already established.
And of course the church was begun in Jerusalem.
Jesus calls them out in the following verses, ""They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil? Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me. And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth. Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death. Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." - John 8:39-58
**This is the church age of “Smyrna” (”crushed myrrh”) which is the suffering church from which was written Fox’s “Book of Martyrs”, probably around 100AD-312AD.**
The seven Spirits are symbolically seen in the seven lamps in the tabernacle. All seven burned at the same time. Every one of those seven Spirits have been present non-stop in churches somewhere in the world, and continue to be so.
“which say they are Jews, and are not”
You answered your own question, they were impostors
That’s true too.
Very good and insightful.
Yes, Acts 2 at Pentecost, in Jerusalem, but it like everything in the near east, Greece and Italy was part of the Roman empire. The first Christians were largely Jewish converts, The Eunuch in Acts was an early Convert but there was no Church founded in Ethiopia at the time of the NT, Christianity did reach Ethiopia early that is correct.
Greek Churches would be Corinth (Acts 18:1), Athens (Acts 17:1), Philippi (Saint Paul’s Letter to the Philippians), Thessalonica (Acts 17:1), Crete (Greek Island, Titus 1:5). Cenchrea is another NT Greek Church (Romans 16:1).
In Italy, the Church at Puteoli (Acts 28:13-14) and Rome (Romans 1:7) indicate a thriving Church in both places and the Church of Rome even before Paul got there having an orthodox faith that is admired all over. At Pentecost, there were people from Rome who heard Saint Peter preach and thus Catholic Scholars have long suggested that these early Roman Christians that Peter evangelized went back to Rome and within 10 years, around 42 AD Saint Peter went to Rome where he governed, built up and led the Church. Paul joined him and both were martyred in Rome in the 60’s AD
So even at the time of the Council of Nicea among the 318 Bishops, the only Latin-Roman Bishop at the Council in 325 AD that was from North of the Alps was a Bishop from Southern Gaul (modern France), the other Roman-Latin speaking Bishops were from Italy (Calabria), Roman-Libya, and Spain (Hosius of Cordoba who led the Council), a Latin Bishop from Illyricum (modern Serbia-Alabania, etc) and 2 Roman priests who were the Popes’ personal representatives.
As such, all the regions North of Italy from Poland (inclusive) all the way to the land of the British Isles (Wales, England, Scotland, etc) were evangelized by the Church of Rome. Thus, all that you folks whose ancestors came from North of the Alps with respect to orthodox Apostolic faith you received from the Catholic Church.
East of Poland was evangelized by Churches in the Eastern Roman empire.
Satan’s synagogue? I think that’s where Soros worships.
yes, i do find it ironic (given what the Lord is really saying) that the ‘church’ of satan attacks both ethnic and religious jews by calling them the ‘synagogue’ of satan.
I did answer it on the surface, but I think it’s deeper than that. I think it’s more than just playing a role.
I think it’s related to the globalism of the last days.
Ping.
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