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Is Teaching Patriotism Bad?
New American Prophet ^ | June 15, 2023 | Dr. Jerry Newcombe

Posted on 06/15/2023 8:02:33 AM PDT by Rev M. Bresciani

There is a vital battle over education in our day. And if we lose it, we could ultimately lose the country.

(Excerpt) Read more at new.americanprophet.org ...


TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: federalist; patriotism; pullman; teaching
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1 posted on 06/15/2023 8:02:33 AM PDT by Rev M. Bresciani
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To: Rev M. Bresciani

Only if you hate America


2 posted on 06/15/2023 8:04:24 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Rev M. Bresciani

Is patriotism in short supply on Free Republic? I ask as an awful lot of FReepers are vehemently anti-American these days.


3 posted on 06/15/2023 8:05:33 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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I don’t believe patriotism can be effectively taught. It is shallow and weak to teach children to “go out and wave a flag.” That kind of teaching is just indoctrination of a different sort.

Patriotism is a product of learning real American history and civics with comparisons to other nations. When that is done it becomes abundantly apparent that the United States has the best form of government and has the potential to be even better in the future.

Real learning leads to tangible acts of good.

4 posted on 06/15/2023 8:14:13 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself.)
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To: Rev M. Bresciani

Only if you’re a Godless communist.


5 posted on 06/15/2023 8:14:43 AM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: MeganC
I ask as an awful lot of FReepers are vehemently anti-American these days.

Stop your bullshit smearing and trying to link corrupt Biden deep-state support for Ukraine with "patriotism." You do it all the time.

6 posted on 06/15/2023 8:18:57 AM PDT by PGR88
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No. Next question...


7 posted on 06/15/2023 8:29:53 AM PDT by econjack
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To: Rev M. Bresciani

Too late.


8 posted on 06/15/2023 8:37:13 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: Rev M. Bresciani

Patriotism, like CRT and racist-philosophy and woke-anything and LGTBQ+-anything, do not belong in a school setting.

Patriotism is the kind of thing learned from family and friends and with general participation in societal norms.

Schools are for learning the academic subjects, including history. History isn’t about patriotism either, but patriotism can be mentioned and learned about, but not taught as a necessary subject.


9 posted on 06/15/2023 8:39:47 AM PDT by adorno
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We must teach civics and patriotism.


10 posted on 06/15/2023 8:48:39 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Donald Tantrum? No Thank You. We Can Do Better! I am a Veteran Supporting Veteran DeSantis.)
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To: PGR88

I ask as an awful lot of FReepers are vehemently anti-American these days.

Stop your bullshit smearing and trying to link corrupt Biden deep-state support for Ukraine with “patriotism.” You do it all the time.


I understand your point but the statement is worthy of thought.

Many “Freepers” here are planted perverts, but many also don’t understand what patriotism means. 100 people in the room will have 100 interpretations.

It is important that we teach and disciple, not just make drive by comments.

Trump is trying to unite us about MAGA. IT is not about Trump it is about MAGA.

I have posted before:

If I shake you awake in the middle of the night and ask you what we are fighting for, after you reach for your gun, what do you tell me?

Our Founding Fathers could answer that question. What say ye?


11 posted on 06/15/2023 8:48:47 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Rev M. Bresciani

Only for democrats.


12 posted on 06/15/2023 9:04:06 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!)
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Unrestrained and without discernment? Without knowledge of the basic corruption that is human nature? That 'our way' isn't always the "only way"?

Patriotism can be like anything else in the hands of the ignorant - a tool for destruction and tyranny.

‘Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy [Ignorance], for on his brow I see that written which is Doom unless the writing be erased.’
13 posted on 06/15/2023 9:04:24 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: MeganC

Patriotism is alive and well on FR... Any anti American sentiment is based on the direction of the country under the current administration and the way the left wingnuts want this country to go.

If America continues to go down the current path any good conservative be against what it’s becoming.


14 posted on 06/15/2023 9:13:27 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: MeganC

They’re not FReepers; they’re infiltrated trolls.


15 posted on 06/15/2023 9:36:30 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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“I don’t believe patriotism can be effectively taught.”

I’m not sure if it can either when they are working with children whose experience level is almost non-existent concerning today’s world.

The problem is that the children are being coated with mixed information that would confuse anyone. The government through the department of education has made a concerted effort to force schools to follow a curriculum the feds want for many years by threatening withholding funding. What does that teach.

The government doesn’t know how to teach patriotism. And they fail to understand they are teaching all the time wih the decisions they make that are way too many times inconsistent with patriotism. And those decisions are based upon an agenda they create that borders on the edge of anti-American activities and needs. So for every time they might get something right in that topic they take a step back and confuse the students until even their good moments are bleary. Teaching is more than just in school and they want it to be there only. Can’t have it both ways.

wy69


16 posted on 06/15/2023 9:38:09 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: PGR88

You doth complaineth too much.


17 posted on 06/15/2023 9:48:09 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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No


18 posted on 06/15/2023 10:24:07 AM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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Only if teaching history is bad


19 posted on 06/15/2023 11:02:03 AM PDT by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
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To: whitney69

Exactly


20 posted on 06/15/2023 1:12:12 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself.)
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