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Ha, Ha, Stupid Adobe Acrobat, After you deprecated Ctrl-Shift-Tab to move from Bookmarks to Page Thumbnails, feinting Ctrl-Shift-I insert page then esc moves to Page Thumbnails
self | CharlesOconnell

Posted on 08/15/2023 11:55:09 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell

Programmers can never leave well enough alone. (Think of all the once-great applications programs that had great features that were deprecated.) I don't think it was greed that caused this deprecation of a very usable feature.

(When on Bookmark panel, you used to be able to Ctrl-Shift-Tab to go to Page Thumbnails, panel, an essential keyboard shortcut when processing a large volume of pages.)

I think it is simply programmers who know nothing about users, who are marketing morons, who have too much time on their hands, on an application that was perfected 20 years ago, so they have to get rid of extremely useful features.

You used to be able to Ctrl-Shift-Tab to move from Bookmarks to Page Thumbnails.

Now, feinting Ctrl-Shift-I insert page then esc to abort inserting a page, moves to Page Thumbnails.

Stupid geeks!


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: acrobat; adobe; applications; vanity
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1 posted on 08/15/2023 11:55:09 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell
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2 posted on 08/15/2023 11:56:55 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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Calls to mind the words of Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday:
Are we cross?
3 posted on 08/15/2023 11:58:04 AM PDT by glennaro (Never give up ... never give in ... never surrender ... and enjoy every minute of doing so.)
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The new, “improved” Adobe Acrobat products are the WORST! I thought Microsoft had the worst programmers, always hiding features in new releases so it takes forever to relearn how to do things. But the new Acrobat software is actually less functional. Features aren’t just hidden. They’re gone. Sucks beyond belief.


4 posted on 08/15/2023 11:59:39 AM PDT by BuchananBrigadeTrumpFan (If in doubt, it's probably sarcasm)
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The new programmers justify their position by changing things that don’t need to be changed. All the software companies do it.


5 posted on 08/15/2023 11:59:50 AM PDT by 9422WMR
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I think it is simply programmers who know nothing about users

Programmers don't make those decision. Those decisions are made by "Product Managers" (often non techies with MBA's )

6 posted on 08/15/2023 12:13:51 PM PDT by libh8er
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“I think it is simply programmers who know nothing about users...”

I wouldn’t necessarily blame the programmers. They’re generally just doing what they are told. Stupid decisions like this usually come from higher up, usually managers who can’t program, and can’t come up with ideas for valuable new features, so all they can do is try to show they are “improving efficiency” by doing stuff like taking away features that they personally don’t understand might be needed by others.


7 posted on 08/15/2023 12:19:40 PM PDT by Boogieman
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Control-I was used as a TAB character back on DEC PDP computers in the 70s. I think it was part of the ASCII standard. NTL-H was the equivalent of left arrow, CNTL-K was FORM FEED, CNTL-L was Right ARROW, CONTL J was Line feed and Cntl-M was carriage return (without linefeed).

So does cntl-shift-tab do something else now, or did they merely disable it?


8 posted on 08/15/2023 12:21:32 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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decision = decisions


9 posted on 08/15/2023 12:21:59 PM PDT by libh8er
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It’s because of things like this that I continue to hold onto software like Acrobat 10/11, Photoshop CS5, Windows 7, Office 2010, TMPGE 5, etc. Newer incarnations of software are almost almost never better anymore, whereas the older software is perfect for what I do. And don’t get me started on subscription based software. Talk about a ripoff. Everything I got is bought and paid for, and it’s mine.


10 posted on 08/15/2023 12:41:54 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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YES, came here to say this. Most corporate programmers receive assignments that they perform. These assignments come from project managers, or others within the corporation.


11 posted on 08/15/2023 12:49:40 PM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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I have used many utility programs that I quit using because an upgrade/update removed the tool(s) I used the program for.

I recall one hypertexting program that allowed links to be colorized by function. An update removed that and made all links ‘blue’. That made the program useless for what I had used it for.

Windows ribbon menus are still horrible, especially on laptops. I use older programs because their designs are more functional. I can have a project done in Word 97 before I figure out where the functions are in later versions.

And then there is always the problem that an update/upgrade can create new problems.


12 posted on 08/15/2023 1:12:02 PM PDT by TomGuy
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PDF - Portable Document Format. A document written designed from scratch TO NOT BE EDITABLE!!!! Yet the whole world has gone completely NUTS. A world where people think they can change gender like their clothes, has now adopted a software that was designed to be uneditable to edit and create documents.
1st day as President. Adobe is illegal, every licence destroyed. All employees terminated. Every building is demolished. Illegal to speak or publish anything positive about Adobe. American productivity would double overnight.
Adobe is NOT, CANNOT be intuitive. This is not debatable.
The customer / user makes the rules. IT exists to serve the user. If the user does not understand and cannot intuitively do anything the user wants, then the product SUCKS.
This is why IT people are not completely human. The hard disconnect between a software engineer and the rest of humanity.
You take your car to a mechanic and say it will not start, he understands. The mechanic has a car not because he is a mechanic but because he is a human being who needs to get from A to B.
You take your computer to an IT person and say it will not start and they don’t understand. IT people think computers are something to work on, play with, maybe make a buck messing with but they don’t understand that the computer exists to serve Humanity! IT people will always defend the computer, brag about how great they are and blame you THE CUSTOMER.
The federal agency I am at( I assume they all do) adopted PDF years ago, it has been a 24/7 absolute nightmare everyday to work here. The general public has been beaten down to accept that any issues they have with a program, especially Adobe, is just user error and lack of knowledge.
No company should ever accept change in their IT systems. The internet has not change a single bit in 30 years, only gotten faster. Apps have not change a single bit since inception, yet IT world constantly changes it.
Humans haven’t changed in 1,000’s of years, yet your company’s home page changes every 3-5 years and they say “its better” “more intuitive”. Microsoft says the same thing, which is an absolute admission of guilt that the last one sucked and wasn’t intuitive, but IT people need job security so they keep changing stuff. NO! CHANGE IS NOT INHERENTLY GOOD.
We are reaping the whirl wind of picking on the pocket protector pencil holder geeks in colleges in the 80’s who never forgave their peers for the abuse they received.


13 posted on 08/15/2023 1:39:22 PM PDT by pghbjugop
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Well, our local Kroger store started moving all the contents around without asking me. They moved items from one aisle to another and moving unrelated items to the other side of the store. Really pisses me off.


14 posted on 08/15/2023 2:24:44 PM PDT by caver
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Sounds like they changed how the program is windowed. Ctrl-tab gets you between sub windows in an app, like alt-tab moves you between apps. Shifting in either one of those moves you “backwards” ie right to left instead of left to right. So I don’t think they could really “deprecate” it since that’s a windows command. But if they’re no longer running the UIs as 2 separate windows within the app then ctrl-tab wouldn’t do anything. And then you seem to have found a bug in the app losing its place when you remove focus with the ctrl-shift-I (which is their command).


15 posted on 08/15/2023 2:34:02 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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Don’t get me started on ubuntu.
The upgrade route is Discover.
No way to stop it.
It’ll pester you 4 times a day to let it upgrade a browser lets say.
You do that and 3 days later its pestering AGAIN
Hate it


16 posted on 08/15/2023 3:36:58 PM PDT by George from New England
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Get “Foxit PDF Editor”
https://www.foxit.com/shopping

It is far better and a lot less expensive then Adobe Acrobat.
You can edit a pdf like text or say a Word doc easily.
One time $210 for the Pro version vs monthly charge for Adobe Acrobat Pro at $19.99 every month forever or until the next price hike.


17 posted on 08/15/2023 4:36:46 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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“I use to do Ctrl-Shift-Tab but then the Kaiser took that away”.....
Grandpa Simpson

I use Word and still have not gotten over them adding the Ribbon menu.


18 posted on 08/15/2023 4:46:13 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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That’s what I found, too. I’m really tempted to just abandon Acrobat entirely.


19 posted on 08/15/2023 6:03:50 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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First world problems.


20 posted on 08/15/2023 6:17:06 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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