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The democrats have been playing the long game, The Republicans the short one.
self ^ | August 25, 2023 | knarf

Posted on 08/25/2023 6:32:15 AM PDT by knarf

We seem to always end up just short of beating the democrats and I have often wondered why.

Perhaps . . . . . . .


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we've not been playing correctly.

I've been here for a couple of generations and I have learned SO much just by reading what FReepers all over America (and a few from other lands) have to say, and I think the common denominator for what have been losses and set-backs is the manner in which we see, and play the game.

Politics IS a game, albeit a game that involves and has consequences for real people, their lives and futures and an ultimate vision/goal for humanity.


I have always defined "Conservative" as one whom conserves, or saves (from destruction/disappearance), and coupled with Patriotism (the root being "pater" or father), MY position has been one of understanding a little about why America and The USA were uniquely formulated and that formulation was as perfect a government as sinful men could come up with and manifest and I, as a citizen of that nation was in strong resistance to change. A kind of change that would ultimately change ME, my way of life and (they would want to hope) the way I think.

THAT is a short game, reactionary way to deal with the political world.

The longest game in history is the relationship man has with his religious/spiritual reasoning. We have been asking why am I here and what's it all about Alphy and have never really concluded any of it . . . . Until a nation was formulated and developed UNDER the diectives and "legislation" of the God od Abraham, thye Judea/Christian model (and hand book) for the way peaole, human beings, citizens of a nation should act BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY THINK.

Our founders were ALL ABOUT posterity.


Pos·ter·i·ty
/päˈsterədē/

noun

1. all future generations of people: "the victims' names are recorded for posterity"


.. . . . and we've been tricked into thinking, believing and living selfishly for now.


We don't think that way and consequently don't act that way.

We were birthed as a nation because of what we believed now, would manifest itself in the future, without us.

Posterity.

The closest we come to that these days is to send our kids to college, or provide some kind of material (money, land, tools, whatever) in our wills . . . WITHOUT PROVIDING A MOST IMPORTANT ELEMENT . . . . that THEY have a posterity and must provide a way of thinking beyond THEIR now and reality.


It's almost a moot and not well mused upon thought and practice of worshiping the same God that GUIDED OUR FOUNDERS' THINKING, and we are subsequently reaping the benefits of that laziness and Satanic leading.

Disregarding all the finer points of America parsed, let's consider on a whole; When we were a "religious" nation, (and we were not afraid or ashamed to say we are Christian), we progressed as a nation.

We built things, we imagined and developed great things, we grew and matured, to the envy of the world, as no nation nor society had EVER in human history, and we did it all in crappy cloth diapers tediously washed by a mother at home cooking and cleaning while dad was out working . . . . or butt naked, whil mom cooked and sewed while dad was out working. . . . . a plan set forth BY God, in the beginning of the first government, the family FOR POSTERITY ;

Go, subdue the Earth and multiply.

Why have we strayed from such a simple plan?

Because we were tricked into thinking . . . . (as a man THINKETH, so is he in his heart) . . . thinking we were an immediate cause for concern and lost a natural curiosity about the future and settled on now.


I believe every trouble and element we are aware of in America today can be associated with "What do/can we do NOW about . . . "

I believe if we cannot afford something, it is because we always thought there'd be a way out or of correction if some element we counted on (but we called it Planned for) should fail.

We've allowed the most vile evil . . . the spiritual, Biblical, scriptural kind . . . to become a NOW thought process, when in fact the evil we allow today was described and dealt with by the same God that led our founders and . . . our parents and/or grandparents,k before we cam along and decided the old way was broken and non functioning and that a new way was preferential.

God has never changed and neither should we, not in thought, word or deed.


Return ye . .

1 posted on 08/25/2023 6:32:15 AM PDT by knarf
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To: knarf

A huge part of the problem is that the “referees,” the mainstream media, have become hardline cheerleaders for the Left making it very difficult if not impossible to even play the game at all.


2 posted on 08/25/2023 6:36:00 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: knarf
The left's "long game" is a simple one: Destroy, destroy, destroy, all the while claiming the destruction is necessary to gain paradise on earth.

This is the Angela Davis - Herbert Marcuse secular religion of the left. They do not care how often it fails. A failure only means they have to destroy more next time. It is a matter of faith for them.

As the intelligentsia in this country, starting with the Progressives, rejected God and accepted the role of god(s) for themselves and the state, this secular faith has gained more and more adherents. Not coincidentally, the proponents of this faith grow rich and fat on the secure funding from the government, to do their destruction.

They see the education system as their leverage to effect the destruction of our society, culture, and government structure.

3 posted on 08/25/2023 6:41:20 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Yo-Yo
A huge part of the problem is that the “referees,” the mainstream media, have become hardline cheerleaders for the Left making it very difficult if not impossible to even play the game at all.

You are correct. The media was captured by the leftist faith by the end of WWII. It had leaned progressive from the 1880s, which helped get us into the Spanish-American war and WWI.

4 posted on 08/25/2023 6:44:51 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: knarf
The Rat Party's patron “saint” is Saul Alinsky. I'll bet that nobody at GOP Headquarters has even *heard* of him,let alone read his book.
5 posted on 08/25/2023 6:45:07 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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To: knarf
It's a dinosaur problem. The Republicans want to return to pre-Trump politics where they can say one thing while campaigning and do the opposite while in office.

The Bush's want the Bush dynasty, Romney another chance at the Presidency with McConnell as the RINO majority leader in the Senate. Then they think they would be able to make our country into the socialist state that they envision.

This as opposed to the socialist state the Democrats envision (Communism if they can get it).

The trouble is that the majority of Americans want neither version.

6 posted on 08/25/2023 6:48:32 AM PDT by CptnObvious
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To: marktwain

Short game, long game, my ass. I disagree. The Republicans (Rinos and neocons) are playing the uniparty game. They get to keep their little bit of power and get some money to boot. It’s that simple.


7 posted on 08/25/2023 6:48:47 AM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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"We seem to always end up just short of beating the democrats and I have often wondered why.."

It's all about the benjamins.

8 posted on 08/25/2023 6:52:03 AM PDT by chief lee runamok (Anti Socialist Flâneur@Large)
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To: fightin kentuckian

Yes, a great many Republicans are part of the problem. A great many of them are adherents of the Secular Religion, or are bought off by the Chinese, or afraid of the Media.


9 posted on 08/25/2023 6:53:57 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: knarf

Some have called for a third party for a least a generation, OK fine. However to do this we need a second party initially.

The uniparty/swamp/deep state whatever you want to call it is the real enemy, basically not rat or GOPe but whoever can elected at any given time working together to corrupt and enrichen themselves. Unions for fed employees for example, you have to be kidding. The central fed gummit is the entity that bankrupted ($35 trillion in debt) and destroyed any morals in the federal system. The Founders gave us the power to fix things and it is called voting, however it is this entity that the American people collectively allowed to get corrupted and we have gotten what we’ve earned.

It is us that needs a change and if the past is any indication it is going to get a lot worse before it gets better, IOW a total collapse is what it will take.


10 posted on 08/25/2023 6:54:40 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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To: chief lee runamok
It's all about the benjamins.

The money is very important, but their justification for lying and cheating and stealing, and all their corruption is a combination of the secular religion and the rejection of Judeo-Christian morality.

11 posted on 08/25/2023 6:56:30 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: knarf

True the democrats have learned from the masters of the long game China has a 100 year plan as do the democrats.


12 posted on 08/25/2023 7:01:23 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: knarf

Thinks become much clearer when you understand that the “game” isn’t Republicans versus Democrats but it’s the elite versus everyone else. Democrats and republicans are on the same team. They good cop/bad cop the people constantly in order to keep getting voted in and retain power. But they both have the same goal: Enrich themselves, their friends, their families and their overseas cronies at the expense of the American taxpayer. Trump is the agent of change. He is (still) in the process of taking over the Republican party in order to stop this.


13 posted on 08/25/2023 7:04:45 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: knarf

It’s not a short game vs long game issue. They’re all on the same team.


14 posted on 08/25/2023 7:07:11 AM PDT by TermLimits4All ("If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything.")
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To: quantim
Every successful salesman learns early, NEVER offer a choice of more than two.

After THAT lesson is learned, the master learns how to offer only ONE, making it seem there is two.

Magicians use this all the time.

Humans (imo) must have a choice and a choice of only two, which coincides with MY understanding that all thought processes are polarized,; up/down, in/out, black/white. over/under, . . etc.

15 posted on 08/25/2023 7:07:45 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true . . . I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: DouglasKC

I’ve tried to explain that the choice is between God/Godly thinking vs. non God/non Godly thinking, AND . . . to not think of ourselves but of the future


16 posted on 08/25/2023 7:09:49 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true . . . I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: knarf

Certain parts of the national machinery have a greater impact, and the Dems understand that. They took the school system and the media, and now are flexing in the legal system.

Republicans have been advancing in the state legislature and governor offices. We will see who has more.


17 posted on 08/25/2023 8:02:15 AM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: Gay State Conservative

The RNC still thinks it’s 1972 and all is well. Other than Reagan and Trump and Gingrich briefly the GOP has been on defense entirely yielding ground and for some insane reason feel they must kiss the media’s butt at all times.

The Democrats are playing long term, but it’s not that they are so smart, it’s just the Republicans rarely step on the field in any serious and meaningful manner and when they do they act like the village idiot. Think of a punk twenty year old and playing checkers with a six year old and you have the Democrats and the Republicans.


18 posted on 08/25/2023 8:30:31 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: CptnObvious

“The trouble is that the majority of Americans want neither version.”

Neither political party gives a tinkers damn what the majority of Americans want. As proven by how they rammed Obamacare into “law” without GOP participation in that legal process... and by how they got away with it with no pushback or repercussions coming from the GOP.


19 posted on 08/25/2023 8:43:27 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: Yo-Yo

We have a BINGO!


20 posted on 08/25/2023 8:49:09 AM PDT by daler
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