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Opinions Sought Concerning Supplements for Treating Long Covid
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Posted on 11/21/2023 2:14:11 PM PST by ducttape45

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To: ducttape45

The verbiage is just wrong enough to make me suspect Chinese is their first language. Would stay away.


41 posted on 11/21/2023 4:13:21 PM PST by NautiNurse (🇺🇸)
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To: ducttape45
Due to the dominance of pharmaceutical companies in American medicine, nutritional aspects of illness are badly neglected. As a result, patients are left on their own and have to sort through a profusion of good and bad supplements, many of which are expensive. Nevertheless, Long Covid and many other chronic ailments do best with a nutritional and dietary approach.

I would first try the following, in combination:

(1) A good quality multivitamin and mineral supplement.

(2) Vitamin D-3.

(3) An amino acid chelated magnesium supplement, like magnesium glycinate or magnesium taurate or a combination of such AA-chelates. I prefer magnesium L-threonate because it also absorbs well across the blood-brain barrier.

(4) Olive leaf extract.

(5) Black walnut hull extract.

(6) The sublingual methyl form of vitamin B-12.

(7) A chelated zinc supplement.

(8) A vitamin C and quercetin combined supplement.

(9) The amino acid taurine.

(10) The amino acids glutathione, arginine and glutamine, which are thought to help with COVID and other respiratory ailments.

(11) A good quality, major brand of fruit and vegetable capsules of powdered green foods and fruits. I prefer Vital Reds for the latter because it has reduced lectins.

(12) Make sure your diet is good, with fish like wild caught salmon several times a week.

(13) Get screened for any possible GI problems, especially celiac disease or other malabsorption disorders. On your own, you can eliminate all foods with wheat, rye, or barley and see if you feel better. Avoid other foods that seem to cause you GI trouble. For reduced lectins, I use only strained tomato sauce.

I know, this is a daunting list. Start with 1-8 and 12 and 13, at half doses with the supplements for the first week or two, then go to full doses, and work the balance of list if needed.

I am not a doctor, but I have the hard coin of experience in recovering from what baffled a dozen or so doctors. In desperation, I turned to the medical literature and experimented on myself with supplements. In the end, I proved to have celiac disease, chronic fatigue syndrome, long-term, atypical shingles, and a brain tumor.

Now, I am in good enough health that 1-5 and 8 beat my case of COVID in several days.

42 posted on 11/21/2023 4:27:47 PM PST by Rockingham (`)
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To: 9YearLurker
Whatever happened to the Hippocratic oath?

It still remains, stop with your bull shit.

Don't trust your doctor, who ya gonna call? Your chiropractor or your auto mechanic?

Done with your nonsense.....Sheesh!

43 posted on 11/21/2023 4:34:34 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath

In a 2000 survey of US medical schools, all of the then extant medical schools administered some type of profession oath. Among schools of modern medicine, sixty-two of 122 used the Hippocratic Oath, or a modified version of it. The other sixty schools used the original or modified Declaration of Geneva, Oath of Maimonides, or an oath authored by students and or faculty. All nineteen osteopathic schools used the Osteopathic Oath.[34]

In France, it is common for new medical graduates to sign a written oath.[35][36]

In 1995, Sir Joseph Rotblat, in his acceptance speech for the Nobel Peace Prize, suggested a Hippocratic Oath for Scientists.[37] In 2007 US citizen Rafiq Abdus Sabir was convicted for making a pledge to Al Qaeda thus agreeing to provide medical aid to wounded terrorists.[38]

As of 2018 all US medical school graduates made some form of public oath but none used the original Hippocratic Oath. A modified form or an oath unique to that school is often used. A review of 18 of these oaths was criticized for their wide variability: “Consistency would help society see that physicians are members of a profession that’s committed to a shared set of essential ethical values.”[39]


There are a several versions of the oath.


44 posted on 11/21/2023 4:44:10 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Chicory

You see, that’s what I was thinking too. That’s why I haven’t gone any further with a purchase.


45 posted on 11/21/2023 5:20:49 PM PST by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: CheshireTheCat

I tried the CoQ10 a while back. I didn’t notice any improvements with it. The B12, I get 6.25 MCG in my multivitamin.


46 posted on 11/21/2023 5:25:52 PM PST by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: marron

I tried nattokinase for about a month earlier this year. Again, with other supplements, I’ve not noticed any improvement.


47 posted on 11/21/2023 5:26:56 PM PST by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: ducttape45

I personally like the list of supplements you listed and I recommend you stay on them and even increase your dose. One of the mistakes people make is that they think supplements are like drugs and so you shouldn’t take too much. But in actuality, you most likely need much more than you’re taking and certainly well above RDA.

With that said I HIGHLY recommend you add a quality magnesium, which should be in the form of glycinate or malate (not oxide) and take roughly 4-8 per day (no more than 2 at a time). Build up to that and then stay there. Magnesium is different than any other major mineral as it makes 350 other nutrients balance out and sync. It’s excellent for your lungs and sleep. Restless leg, migraines, mood and myriad other symptoms.


48 posted on 11/21/2023 5:29:21 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: Hot Tabasco; ducttape45

you absolutely do NOT need a physician. They are not about healing and clearly have not helped you to date ducttape. The medical system is run by Satan at this point in our lives and we should all avoid it as much (or totally) as possible.


49 posted on 11/21/2023 5:31:22 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
I did have a full exam. All of the tests come back negative. I even had a EKG to see if I had any heart inflammation. It also came back negative. That's one of the biggest problems with Long Covid, all tests come back negative.

I have an oxygen meter next to my beside that I use to check my oxygen level every day. It consistently ranges from 93-98%. Matter of fact my doctor checked it today and read 98%. Shortness of breath has never been a problem for me, knock on wood. Nausea is one of the most frequent symptom of Long Covid, along with Chronic Fatigue. Those two factors are primarily what led to my retirement.

50 posted on 11/21/2023 5:32:00 PM PST by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: ConservativeMind

I have tried working out. I lose strength too quickly, and when that happens I’m normally bedridden for 36-48 hours. It really sucks. Thankfully my O2 level is normally 93-98% so I’m good there.


51 posted on 11/21/2023 5:33:43 PM PST by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: Republican Wildcat

You are clueless. Studies of excess deaths coupled with all the killer protocols rolled out expressly for “Covid” tell the story. Go study up.


52 posted on 11/21/2023 5:36:32 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Hot Tabasco

Okay, Big Pharma pin cushion.


53 posted on 11/21/2023 5:37:13 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Retrofitted
It's a thing: https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/long-covid-and-the-digestive-system-mayo-clinic-expert-describes-common-symptoms/

My wife went through it -- fatigue, nausea, the worse "brain fog" I've ever seen. For her, it was supplementation and dietary changes. The symptoms have lessened but she's still dealing with pieces of it.

I dealt with the extreme fatigue and incredibly weird dehydration symptoms. Shook the fatigue after a year, still coping with the dehydration bit. Basically, I just had to let it run its course; docs and I found nothing to really help.

Thank you for sharing your plight. While I'm tempted to say "misery loves company" I don't really think that's the right mentality for these times. :-)

For me, it was the nausea, brain fog/dizziness, chronic fatigue and insomnia. It's about a year and I'm still battling it.

54 posted on 11/21/2023 5:38:22 PM PST by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: whitney69

Thank for you sharing that info. I will indeed checkout the MSDS’s for the various supplements.


55 posted on 11/21/2023 5:39:43 PM PST by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: ducttape45

often, these fatigue issues are due to a sluggish liver. I would focus in on supplements that help the liver and there’s been a few good suggestions on here. Milk thistle, dandelion, high dose B3 (niacin—the flushing kind) is a good start. Also apple cider vinegar as soon as you get up


56 posted on 11/21/2023 5:39:46 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: ducttape45

I don’t think that is very much B12...


57 posted on 11/21/2023 5:40:11 PM PST by goodnesswins ( We pretend to vote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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To: NautiNurse

Exactly what I was thinking as well.


58 posted on 11/21/2023 5:42:13 PM PST by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: ckilmer

Am I correct in thinking that you're the author of that book?   (If so, I wanted to ask you a quick question, if you don't mind answering.   Did you have long covid, and, if so, is it totally gone now?)

Thanks for your post, and any response here.

59 posted on 11/21/2023 5:43:57 PM PST by Songcraft ( )
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To: goodnesswins

At my last checkup, all my vitamin levels were normal, or above normal, except for niacin and D3, which I now take in addition to my multivitamin.


60 posted on 11/21/2023 5:46:41 PM PST by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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