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Weekly Garden Thread - December 2-8, 2023 [Does Your 'Birth Month Bird' Match Your Personality Edition]
December 2, 2023 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 12/02/2023 6:51:19 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We DO post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: birds; garden; gardening
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To: BipolarBob

Yikes! :)


21 posted on 12/02/2023 8:39:04 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: mabarker1

https://twitter.com/MidniteRavyn/status/1728855716570796351


22 posted on 12/02/2023 8:40:55 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

Foggy, “drippy” sort of morning with showers later. Very mild temps: mid 60’s today, maybe 70 & rain again tomorrow!

This week was ‘Merry Christmas’ to me - ordered & received the following:

A candy thermometer that is built into a spatula. When making jams that do not have added pectin, instructions tend to be boil until ‘gel point’ is reached - this is about 220°. With the thermometer IN the spatula (removable for cleaning), I can stir while watching for the correct temp & I do not have to worry about the probe point touching the bottom of the pan & giving a false reading. I have a recipe I am going to try it on: Cranberry-Apple Preserves, p. 65 Ball Blue Book Guide to Preserving. The recipe is also posted here, with the only change being to bring to a full rolling boil for 2 minutes rather than to 220°:

Cranberry Apple Jam with a Hint of Orange
https://www.onehundreddollarsamonth.com/cranberry-apple-jam-with-a-hint-of-orange/

Didn’t I mention some threads back I was through with canning for 2023? Ha ha ha ....

A casserole carrier - does hot or cold, double-decker, holds 2 9x13 dishes. I am tired of scrounging coolers, boxes, etc. for carrying dishes to family feasts. It will get used the first time next weekend for a family Christmas dinner & should keep my dishes hot for the 2 hour trip.

Book: “Fire Cider, 101 zesty recipes for health-boosting remedies made with apple cider vinegar” by Rosemary Gladstar. This, to me, was thoroughly delightful & more than I expected. It tells the tale of how the community term ‘fire cider’ was trademarked & why this was devastating & a very bad precedent for the herbal community. I looked up the legal case & Rosemary et al won ... the trademark has been removed! There are MANY recipes with 75 contributors, several of whom have written books I own. Of course, there are various contributor-favorite fire cider recipes, but also drinks, salad dressings, sauces, soups, & many other recipes which have fire cider as an ingredient. This book was recommended on the Garden Thread I think - THANKS to whoever recommended it!

Book: “Health Through God’s Pharmacy, Advice & Proven Cures with Medicinal Herbs” by Maria Treben. I heard about this book & “Swedish Bitters” on the Southern Appalachian Herbs blog hosted by Master Herbslist Judson Carroll. It is a ‘classic’ for those using herbs medicinally. Based on Judson’s personal experience combatting the flu with Swedish Bitters, I have found a source for the mixture (11 herbs) & it will be added to my medicinal herb cabinet.

I also got items I ordered for Christmas presents, so except for one great-nephew (15 mos old) that I am still trying to find a present for (non-junk, no clothes, no toys he’ll outgrow, etc), I am ready to enjoy all the ‘non-present’ aspects of Christmas: celebrating the birth of my Lord & Savior Jesus Christ, very precious time with family (first Christmas without dad & a beloved first cousin - the ledge of life is narrow enough, doesn’t take much to knock people off, especially those that are of a more advanced age), and lastly: some good food/feasting at family get-togethers.

Evidently, I am a “canary” ... I’ll have to think about that because I definitely don’t see myself as one.


23 posted on 12/02/2023 9:09:01 AM PST by Qiviut (If the genocide was unintentional, they would have pulled the poison vaccines, long ago.)
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To: Qiviut; All
Southern Appalachian Herbs blog podcast hosted by Master HerbAlist Judson Carroll.

Posting on my phone, which is never easy.

24 posted on 12/02/2023 9:13:55 AM PST by Qiviut (If the genocide was unintentional, they would have pulled the poison vaccines, long ago.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

We have owls on our property but not sure what kind they are.


25 posted on 12/02/2023 9:33:06 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Bon of Babble

Beautiful pics, especially the rosebush.


26 posted on 12/02/2023 9:43:43 AM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I am a raven. Well I guess “brilliant” and “loyal mate” fits.


27 posted on 12/02/2023 9:45:12 AM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Swan here.

Tomatoes love the fall weather.

Wife made/baked a Bacon Maple Cheesecake.. Oh my goodness!

Back to the 82 degree beach weather..

Aloha!


28 posted on 12/02/2023 11:02:01 AM PST by dakine
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To: metmom

We have barred owls on our property…sometimes. I think the ones that used to visit most frequently have died, and now we have their babies (who I’m sure are all grown up now) that visit every now and again. One of the parents used to hang out in a tree with tangled limbs. I have no idea what kind of tree that is, but the owl stopped hanging out there a few years ago. That’s why I’m assuming he has passed. He was a cool bird.


29 posted on 12/02/2023 1:34:55 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: FamiliarFace

I think that is the kind we have based on the hooting.

We see it on occasion.


30 posted on 12/02/2023 3:57:02 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Chode

Wow


31 posted on 12/02/2023 4:51:56 PM PST by goodnesswins ( We pretend to vote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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To: metmom

I have some “good enough” photos of our owls. I was a budding photographer when I got some lucky shots a few years ago. There’s one of the two of them preening each other, and another of the first one just staring at me as I admired him (or her) staring at me through our window. I sure miss seeing them on a regular basis.


32 posted on 12/02/2023 5:58:20 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: FamiliarFace
We have a well cover along these lines to mark where our well is.

During one particularly very windy day, there was an owl perched on the peak of it. Until a particularly strong gust blew it off.

33 posted on 12/02/2023 6:10:51 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: metmom

That’s cute. I bet that was a surprise.


34 posted on 12/02/2023 6:39:43 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: goodnesswins

it’s a beautiful thing...


35 posted on 12/02/2023 6:48:51 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
In the early days when I wasn't even spending much money on gardening people would say; You can't compare what you're growing to grocery store food. You're growing varieties not available at the local store and growing it organically. Just think of the health benefits. You can't put a price on that. ($5k)

Everything but the poly film is going to last many years. The controller I'm using for my irrigation timer is the same thing they're had running for 15-20 years at work and they run 24/7. Can't buy that in your local store either. The electrical connectors I'm using get used in city busses, 18 wheelers etc. Linear actuators, not so much but are swapped out with two pins for easy replacement. If they don't last long, I'll start swapping those out for industrial versions.


My rocketbombplane(wind speed/direction sensor) is sitting at the UPS distro center in the college town 10 miles North of work and has been all day. I'll get it Monday.

I'll be able to test it a little at home by spinning with a cordless drill and taking an AC voltage measurement. I pulled a 90 VDC motor and DC motor controller off the shelf at work today so I can test the wind speed part of it. With the setup at work, I can dial in the RPMs, double check it with a testing tachometer, and take a frequency reading in Hz(hertz) and do the math to make sure it's what it's supposed to be as translated to MPH. A calibration check basically. I can do a second check at a different RPM, do the same math and know it's good throughout a range of speeds.

Wind direction is a piece of cake. Three wires; put 5 VDC to one and read the voltage across the other two. Rotate unit to lowest reading and call that North. Highest reading is South. With a number called Slope, it will work out to 0 being North and 180 being South, just like a compass.

I'm a wee bit nervous/hopeful that both will work. If so, OMG a $1200 commercial unit for $130. They use these things at small airports, AG ext research stations, Forest Service for fire weather data - forest fire fighting etc. It's a bad mamajamma rocketbomblane.

36 posted on 12/02/2023 7:01:02 PM PST by Pollard (Stick a fork in the USA, it's done!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

June, Mourning Dove. Good match for me, as I grew up with Mourning Doves in trees near out house and I loved listening to them.


37 posted on 12/02/2023 7:12:00 PM PST by Veto! (FJB Sucks Rocks)
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To: FamiliarFace

It was.

I was going to try to get a picture of it, but the wind blew it off before I could.


38 posted on 12/02/2023 7:40:31 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Pollard
To link back to the Weekly Garden Thread - November 25 - December 1st, 2023
Click on the Red Christmas Truck!

Poof sorry image href gone!

Pollard's F/R profile page is the location of his Prepper links and Data Base and contains the Gardening Resource files.
Click anywhere on the floating book to link to his homepage!


39 posted on 12/02/2023 8:25:21 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Bon of Babble

are “tree rats” a real thing?


40 posted on 12/02/2023 8:28:47 PM PST by cherry
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