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Prosecution's Bug Expert Struggles On Stand:08/01/2002 Westefield Trial Nears Finish Lap!
Court TV ^ | August 1, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 07/31/2002 9:20:15 PM PDT by FresnoDA

Prosecution's bug expert struggles on stand

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Forensic entomologist Madison Lee Goff, left, testifies for the prosecution at the trial of David Westerfield.

SAN DIEGO — The insect expert prosecutors hoped would destroy David Westerfield's chances for acquittal stumbled badly during his turn on the witness stand Tuesday, capping confusing, overly technical testimony with the admission he made basic math errors in his findings.

Madison Lee Goff, one of the most experienced scientists in the small field of forensic entomology, blushed a deep red as a defense lawyer for the man accused of killing Danielle van Dam repeatedly confronted him with five separate errors in data he used to analyze bugs collected at the 7-year-old's autopsy.

"I made a mistake adding," said Goff, the chair of the forensic science department at Honolulu's Chaminade University and one of only nine certified forensic entomologists in North America.

Entomology has become a battleground as Westerfield's two-month long capital murder trial draws to a close. The strongest evidence for the defense comes from this field in which insect specialists use the age of maggots and flies decomposing a body to help determine a time of death. Danielle, abducted from her bedroom Feb. 1, was missing 26 days and when her body was finally found, the medical examiner was unable to pinpoint when she was killed. Two forensic entomologists hired by the defense said their analyses suggested her body was dumped along a roadside in mid-February, long after Westerfield was under constant police surveillance.

Prosecutors, who have a pile of other evidence against Westerfield, including hair, blood and fingerprint evidence, hired Goff soon after the first defense entomologist testified.

Goff said Tuesday he disagreed with the conclusions of both defense experts, but the time frame he offered, Feb. 9 to Feb. 14, was only slightly earlier than theirs and did not neatly fit the prosecution's theory that Danielle was killed between Feb. 2 and Feb. 4 while Westerfield claims he was on a solo camping trip. Prosecutor Jeff Dusek had to question his own expert in much the same way as he cross-examined the defense experts, hinting that variables in the weather and the disposal of Danielle's body cast doubt on the certainty of any entomological findings.

Goff agreed that very hot, very dry weather conditions in San Diego in February might have mummified Danielle's 58-pound body almost immediately and that flies may not have been attracted to the desiccated body. A forensic anthropologist, called by the prosecution last week to cast doubt on the bug evidence, said the insects may have arrived later and only after coyotes and other animals began scavenging her body and Goff said this scenario seemed possible.

He also said a covering, such as a blanket, might have kept flies at bay initially. No covering was found and Goff later said the longest delay by such a shroud was two and a half days.

Much of his testimony was a detailed view into the mathematical nuts and bolts of his conclusions. Goff did not look at the bugs himself. Instead, he reviewed photos and the reports of the defense experts. He told jurors he came up with four separate time lines based on two different temperatures at two separate locations, a golf course a mile and a half from the crime scene and National Weather Service station farther away.

Goff's testimony bounced between these four sets of findings and even after he said the lower temperature and the weather service station provided the most reliable, appropriate date, it was often unclear which findings he was referring to. He peppered his speech with entomological jargon like "accumulated degree hours" and referred to blowflies by their the Latin names. He talked about temperatures in Celsius degrees, frequently prompting Dusek to ask for a Fahrenheit translation. Much of his work seemed lost on jurors, who stopped taking notes early on in his testimony.

On cross-examination, defense lawyer Steven Feldman grilled him about the way he calculated the day-to-day temperatures which dictate how fast an insect grows. Goff explained the process, but then Feldman handed him a pocket calculator and asked him to review his findings. With the courtroom completely silent, Goff added rows of figures and discovered his errors. Feldman asked him if the mistakes effected the accuracy of his estimates and Goff said they did. Several jurors picked up their notebooks and began writing rapidly.

A few minutes later, under questioning by Dusek, Goff said the slip ups made little difference in the ultimate conclusions. And as he had earlier in his testimony, he emphasized to jurors that his was an extremely narrow study of bugs, not a "stopwatch" for determining time of death.

"We're establishing a minimum period of time the insects have been feeding on the body," said Goff.

"Are you establishing a time of death?" asked prosecutor Jeff Dusek.

"No, that's outside our area of expertise," said Goff.

Danielle's parents, Brenda and Damon van Dam, watched most of the testimony from the back row of the courtroom, occasionally flinching as Goff described the condition of their daughter's remains.

The prosecution rested its rebuttal case after Goff's testimony. There will be no witnesses Wednesday and the defense will put on its sur-rebuttal case Thursday. Closing arguments could happen as early as next Monday.

Also Tuesday, a lab technician testified that orange clothes some law enforcement officers wore when searching Westerfield's house were not the source of fibers found in both the defendant's home and in Danielle's necklace.

The trial is being broadcast live on Court TV.



TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: bugguys; daniellevandam; davidwesterfield
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To: John Jamieson
If the State assumes the truth of the science in convicting its citizens, it is very wrong to now disregard what the same "truth" tells them.

988 in simple terms is A is true and B is true, therefore C.

1,001 posted on 08/02/2002 9:32:58 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: John Jamieson
Dusek will be given an opportunity to "explain" a scenario. His scenario will be based on his selection of the evidence and testimony that was provided to the jury.

I believe he has drawn out sufficent testimony from all the bug guys that will allow him to demonstrate that the bug science is not absolute, that the bug guys established only minimum times and that no one can know how long she was there.

1,002 posted on 08/02/2002 9:35:49 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
I'm trying very hard and sincerely to understand what you're getting at, but I just don't get it. Truly sorry.
John
1,003 posted on 08/02/2002 9:38:37 AM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: VRWC_minion
The bugguys established both minimum and maximum times between the body being found and the first ova position. The minimum time was 4 days (23d to 27th), and the maximum time was 18 days (9th to 27th). Dusek tried to confuse the issue by calling both minimums. I guess he made sense to you, but not to most of us.
1,004 posted on 08/02/2002 9:44:22 AM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson

PING...ALL Refugees and Jackals....

Ongoing discussions continue today at latest VD/Westie Thread....

Frustrated Prosecutor Dusek Swats At Final Bug Expert: Westerfield Soon Will BUG The Jury....

1,005 posted on 08/02/2002 9:51:06 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: VRWC_minion
I know that you favor the prosecution and you choose to interpret the testimony to suit your opinion. We all do the same, but...........

It cannot be denied that if the dates and calculations remained exactly as they are but the prosecution desired the later dates, Dusek would be perfectly content with the findings.

If you think not, you are really kidding yourself.

1,006 posted on 08/02/2002 9:59:33 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: VRWC_minion
Your conclusions define your premises.
1,007 posted on 08/02/2002 10:08:03 AM PDT by bvw
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To: VRWC_minion

I believe he has drawn out sufficent testimony from all the bug guys that will allow him to demonstrate that the bug science is not absolute, that the bug guys established only minimum times and that no one can know how long she was there.

Dusek may succeed in polluting the BUG eggspurts...but he will not be able to deny the potential culpability of the SWING SET 6...and the self admitted HARD CORE swinging of the VD's and their gal pals....

You would agree??


1,008 posted on 08/02/2002 10:25:07 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
I know [minion] favors the prosecution and chooses to interpret the testimony to suit [minion's] opinion.

It is more than just interpreting the tetsimony, it is blinders and very selective recall. You see in a trial, as in any investigation or science or knowledge seeking, one must consider the whole of the data, and not ignore facts and strongly supported narrative that goes against one's foregone conclusion.

Minion has reached a conclusion, he is not interested in the actual reality, rather each thing put before his Majestic Minionity is allowed if only it supports his conclusion and denied if it would break that precast idol of a conclusion.

We all do the same

Fortunately that is not correct. (You are trying, good-heartedly but foolishly too, to reach into the reason with a blockhead. You might better try sculpting marble with your fingernails.)

Minion is like those dark age "ecclesiastic authorities" who banned Galileo for uncovering truths that did not conform to their approved worldview.


1,009 posted on 08/02/2002 10:28:10 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
Speechless affirming...BUMP...
1,010 posted on 08/02/2002 10:32:26 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: bvw
Well........uh........I was trying to find a nice way to say to Minnie.....um.

Never mind !!! You obviously got the point. ; *)

1,011 posted on 08/02/2002 10:39:26 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Politicalmom

Attention all FR-Refugees....at the direction of the Executive Board...all Westie/VD discussions have been moved to Fort Refugee until further notice.....

Activate your logon cookies, and proceed to: http://pub3.ezboard.com/bfreerepublicrefugeeboard5175

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1,012 posted on 08/02/2002 11:00:30 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
It cannot be denied that if the dates and calculations remained exactly as they are but the prosecution desired the later dates, Dusek would be perfectly content with the findings.

Dusek will argue that the date established by the pros. is the minimum date that flys would have landed on the body and that this is not the same as the actual date. He will argue that the bug science is not capable of determining the date she was placed there. He will also point to two other fields of forensic science that agree that an earlier date is within acceptable parameters.

1,013 posted on 08/02/2002 11:02:32 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: FresnoDA
Dusek may succeed in polluting the BUG eggspurts...but he will not be able to deny the potential culpability of the SWING SET 6...and the self admitted HARD CORE swinging of the VD's and their gal pals....

I don't see how either parties sex history provides any light on this ? Are you making the case the all swingers kill their children ? I find that as silly as all porn watchers kill children. Maybe I miss your point.

1,014 posted on 08/02/2002 11:04:55 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
Minnie, you're in a universe of your own. C-ya..........
1,015 posted on 08/02/2002 11:05:49 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: bvw
Minion has reached a conclusion, he is not interested in the actual reality, rather each thing put before his Majestic Minionity is allowed if only it supports his conclusion and denied if it would break that precast idol of a conclusion.

A fine example of speculation accepted as fact.

1,016 posted on 08/02/2002 11:08:55 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: FresnoDA; All
Some of us are at-chat. :) Anyone care to join?
1,017 posted on 08/02/2002 11:11:34 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: bvw; VRWC_minion; Southflanknorthpawsis
VRWC_minion's legal training must come from her reading of "Alice in Wonderland" and the Queen's court.
1,018 posted on 08/02/2002 11:22:38 AM PDT by connectthedots
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To: connectthedots
VRWC_minion's legal training must come from her reading of "Alice in Wonderland" and the Queen's court.

A fine example of impeccable logic used by someone who disagrees with me.

1,019 posted on 08/02/2002 11:28:43 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: connectthedots
If you didn't do it, simply tell the cops that since you don't know anything about the crime and didn't do it, there is no reason for the cops to question them and tell them to leave your property until that have either a search warrant or a warrant for your arrest. Had DW simply declined to talk to the cops, he would have never been charged.

Is that how the other neighbors handled the police knocking at their doors?

I don't think so. Referring just to your advice to tell the cops to go away right away. Once they obviously were viewing him with suspicion by taking him to the PD, and maybe even before, he would have been well advised to ask for a lawyer then and there.

1,020 posted on 08/02/2002 1:50:57 PM PDT by cyncooper
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