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What McCain's likely victory will mean for GOP congressional prospects
Red State ^ | April 23, 2008

Posted on 04/24/2008 2:36:38 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Given recent results in congressional elections and current polls, and given the beating we took in 2006, there is significant concern that 2008 will result in the Democrats making sweeping gains in the House and Senate.

Given the electoral history of the past few decades, I believe that the fears of Democrats picking up an additional 5 or more seats in the Senate, or 20 or more seats in the House, are WAY overstated, PROVIDED McCain wins by a few points or more in November.

Why? I surveyed the Senate elections occuring in presidential years. In no year at least since 1928 (as far back as I looked) did the party winning the popular vote of the presidency lose more than 3 seats (only one year was it 3--1940), while in 2000, the popular-vote losing, but electoral-vote winning party lost 4 seats. On the other hand, there are plenty of years in which the winning party did lose a seat or two (1996, 1972). And several years where the winning party won several seats.

Our large Senate class ressembles most the large, vulnerable GOP classes of 1986 and 2000, or the large Democratic class of 1940. So no chance of any major GOP gains.

I bet very similar numbers could be found in looking at House elections.

Apart from the presidential year advantage, there is still another reason to doubt the repeat of 2006-style gains :it's very difficult to have back-to-back sweeping gains in Congress. I think Roosevelt pulled it off from '32 through '36, but other than then, I can't think of any two successive cycles in each of which a party won large numbers of seats in both House and Senate. Why? Pendelums have a tendency to swing and all that.

Given that the Democrats look determined to nominate the least experienced, the most far-left candidate they've ever nominated, I'm cautiously optimistic that McCain will win by 5 points or more, and that therefore, the Democrats will pick up one or two seats in the Senate and maybe a handful of seats in the House.

(2010, on the other hand, may be a different story, especially if the recession continues).

Of course, if Obama should win by a landslide, then Democratic dreams (like our dreams in those heady days of 2005) of a filibuster-proof majority may not be so vain.

But come January 2009, expect a President McCain, with narrow Democratic margins in the House and Senate.


TOPICS: Parties; State and Local; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2008; election; elections; mccain
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Sounds plausible.
1 posted on 04/24/2008 2:36:38 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Since Obama and Hillary are raising so much money, I expect that Democrat Senate and Congressional candidates may have trouble raising some of their own.

Here is Tucson, we've got a Democrat Congresswoman in a Republican district. With McCain on the ticket, there is a good chance the Republican candidate for the seat will win (he is currently the State Senate President)

2 posted on 04/24/2008 3:00:00 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Illegals : Why spend the money to educate them if its against the law to employ them?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This article does not mention the fact that so many GOP congressmen are quitting.

Also, assume McCain wins. With a full-blown motgage crisis, $200/barrel oil, lost jobs, and the possibility that the war will continue or worsen, the voters could punish the GOP in 2010.


3 posted on 04/24/2008 3:28:10 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Also, assume McCain wins. With a full-blown motgage crisis, $200/barrel oil, lost jobs, and the possibility that the war will continue or worsen, the voters could punish the GOP in 2010.

Chaos will ensue, cats sleeping with dogs. Where are all the positive Reagan conservatives? But your "War will worsen or continue" gives you away. Back to DU you miserable negative little troll

4 posted on 04/24/2008 3:48:11 AM PDT by pburgh01
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To: Cowboy Bob

There will be a lot of one-hit wonders in 08.


5 posted on 04/24/2008 3:57:00 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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well, I am voting against my incumbant democrat congressmembers.


6 posted on 04/24/2008 3:57:46 AM PDT by Liberty2007 (Wayne Allyn Root Rootforamerica.com LP candidate)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
No way... we can define the dims as the party that caused it all. One year ago EVERYTHING was great in America... now everything is screwed up... The difference... pelosi and reid!

LLS

7 posted on 04/24/2008 4:33:30 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? osamabama hussein may convince me yet!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
No way... we can define the dims as the party that caused it all.

The GOP could have been defining Dems for a long time now.

For whatever reason, they choose not to.

I see nothing that leads me to believe anything will change.

8 posted on 04/24/2008 4:37:13 AM PDT by airborne (LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
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To: pburgh01
Chaos will ensue, cats sleeping with dogs. Where are all the positive Reagan conservatives? But your "War will worsen or continue" gives you away. Back to DU you miserable negative little troll

You nailed this one.

9 posted on 04/24/2008 4:39:47 AM PDT by Vio24
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To: airborne
Screw the republicans. Conservatives just need to sing it from the Mountain Tops! The party is useless... Rush has shown the way.

LLS

10 posted on 04/24/2008 4:53:14 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? osamabama hussein may convince me yet!)
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To: pburgh01
>>But your "War will worsen or continue" gives you away.<<

What I said was the possibility that the war will continue or worsen. I hope that the war will go very well.

Learn to read.

I voted for Reagan, and Bush, and Dole, and Bush, but McCain is no Reagan.

11 posted on 04/24/2008 4:57:29 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not to me. It's all about candidates. Where do you see really attractive GOP senate candidates who are going to take on the entrenched Dems? Who do you see beating Tim Johnson? Certainly the GOP has shown no guts whatsoever in exploiting his obvious medical issues. The guy in NM may have a chance, but it's only a chance. VA is probably a loss. LA seems like a pickup, but it's one of those states I don't count till I see the vote. Elsewhere, in Congress, we're gonna almost certainly lose one of the OH seats. Already lost the Henry Hyde seat.

Sorry, I don't see where McCain, even with a big victory, brings anything to the GOP table.

12 posted on 04/24/2008 4:57:39 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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So, now McCain is considered to be the favorite to win in November? Unless the economy improves dramatically and McQueeg starts treating the Democrats the same way he treats Republicans, either the Beast or Osama beats him easily.


13 posted on 04/24/2008 5:06:10 AM PDT by LiveFree99
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To: LibLieSlayer
Rush has shown the way.

really? he carried their water for so long. and one of the reasons mccain won is that RUsh didnt endorse anyone, I think he would've made a difference.

14 posted on 04/24/2008 5:09:15 AM PDT by Liberty2007 (Wayne Allyn Root Rootforamerica.com LP candidate)
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To: Liberty2007
What you say is arguable... He is making the ONLY difference now.

LLS

15 posted on 04/24/2008 5:12:54 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? osamabama hussein may convince me yet!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I am sorry I haven’t been following Rush, what’s he doing? the trick where conservates registers as democrats and vote for hillary?


16 posted on 04/24/2008 5:19:33 AM PDT by Liberty2007 (Wayne Allyn Root Rootforamerica.com LP candidate)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nightmare scenario; McBoob in the oval office and the Dems retaining control of one or both houses.


17 posted on 04/24/2008 7:47:46 AM PDT by Grunthor (McCain 2008 -Bite the pillow. - roamer_1)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds plausible.


How many seats did the winner candidate’s party have to defend in each of those years surveyed? I think this year the GOP has a very large number it is defending.


18 posted on 04/24/2008 7:54:59 AM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: Liberty2007
He has caused the dims to attack each other and it will lead to Chicago ‘68 in Denver. It is not about helping hildebeast but about destroying the dim party. The republicans are wussies.

LLS

19 posted on 04/24/2008 9:40:52 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? osamabama hussein may convince me yet!)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
Given that the Democrats look determined to nominate the least experienced, the most far-left candidate they've ever nominated, I'm cautiously optimistic that McCain will win by 5 points or more, and that therefore, the Democrats will pick up one or two seats in the Senate and maybe a handful of seats in the House. (2010, on the other hand, may be a different story, especially if the recession continues). Of course, if Obama should win by a landslide, then Democratic dreams (like our dreams in those heady days of 2005) of a filibuster-proof majority may not be so vain. But come January 2009, expect a President McCain, with narrow Democratic margins in the House and Senate.
Note, "our dreams of a filibuster-proof majority" indicates the partisan nature of the writer.
20 posted on 04/24/2008 12:09:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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