Skip to comments.Dick Morris: Dems turn on Obama
Posted on 06/16/2010 5:30:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
To the left, the oil spill is not an index of presidential competence or an issue in the political sphere. It is a daily gushing of poison into the Earths waters as a direct result of the presidents failure to stop it. They blame BP. But they already hate oil companies. And they blame Obama, too. And they are coming to dislike him.
When Obama attempts to recoup this damage to his political base by pushing new legislation on the environment or by resurrecting his cap and trade legislation or by bringing criminal charges against BP or by setting up a liability fund for the spills victims, it does not solve his political problem. With each day, 60,000 gallons gush into the Gulf, Obamas equivalent of the body count in Iraq that caused the left to loathe George W. Bush. Rhetoric or programs or visits to the Gulf or posturing wont assuage the negatives. Only plugging the hole in the bottom of the ocean can do it.
The right and center of American politics turned off Obama over health care. And now the left is leaving him over the oil spill.
Why cant Obama plug the hole?
Because he has no administrative experience. I often saw Bill Clinton, as governor and as president, call in experts and ask the tough questions when he faced a new disaster. In Arkansas, it was tornadoes or floods or fires. In Washington, it was Oklahoma City. But, each time, he thoroughly familiarized himself with all the technical issues. He took a bath in the science and substance of the hazard and became as knowledgeable as those who had spent a lifetime studying it. So he knew what questions to ask.
Any CEO or COO or manager has similar experience. But a community organizer, law professor, state senator, US Senator, and president doesnt have the requisite experience. He doesnt know not to trust his own bureaucracy. He hasnt been burned enough to realize that he needs to intervene to waive restrictions, set aside regulations, and open up the process to new solutions. Hes like JFK during the Bay of Pigs. He doesnt know how to avoid being betrayed by his own bureaucracy and the industry its supposed to regulate.
Why did he not waive the Jones Act (he still hasnt) to allow foreign vessels to ply our waters to clean up the spill? Not because he was against it. He couldnt have been against so obvious a course as waiving it. It was likely because nobody told him about it and he never knew to ask.
Why did he let the bureaucracy use only US contractors to dredge the Gulf and build the berms that Louisiana wanted? Why did he spurn the offer of Dutch assistance (half the country has been dredged from the sea and is below sea level)? Not because he wanted the jobs to go to Americans. That would have been an insane consideration in the face of this crisis. it is probably because he never realized that our capacity for dredging needed augmentation. Because he never asked.
To the right and the center, these failings show that Obama is in over his head. But to the left, which bleeds for each drop of water in the Gulf and cries over every turtle or shrimp or sea bird, it is an unpardonable sin.
It is the nature of things that presidential mistakes metastasize into presidential character flaws. Bushs inaction over Katrina comes across as insensitivity. Now Obamas incompetence and inexperience is causing liberals to see him as arrogant, aloof, removed, conceited, suspicious of outside advice, and even lazy. Long after the oil has stopped spilling, these supposed character defects will haunt the president, just as Carters reputation of timidity and inability lasted long after the Iran hostages came home. These defects will last until 2012 and beyond.
60,000 BARRELS Dickie boy...
The left fringe can hate Obama all it wants, but they’ll still vote for him over any sane candidate. So all in all, so what if they are dissatisfied?
Because the only holes Obama knew how to plug were those on his Columbia and Harvard roommates
Enthusiasm is part of the equation.
You need enthusiasm from the hard core to build grass root volunteers, to donate money, to canvass, to make phone calls, to drive people to the polls.
If all you can get is tepid support, you end up like John McCain in 2008.
Seriously doubt that. Looks like they are getting ready to resurrect a beast we thought was dead.
Think I see the toes wiggling.
Well John MccSANE will not happen again as we will not let the MSM endorse our canditate this time. I know people...comfortable people who never bother to vote who say in 2012 they are voting Republican ticket all the way!
So is this how the dinosaurs really became extinct?
When I worked for a major pharmaceutical company and had a chance to book a cruise at an unheard of low price, my boss wouldn't let me take the time off because he "needed me there" on those particular days. I guarantee my job had nowhere remotely near the responsibiity of Mr. Obama and wonder how in the world he could justify taking vacation days off during an American "crisis" that still is far from being resolved. If I had taken almost two months to meet with someone involved in a serious vendor problem, I'd have been disciplined or fired.
It would appear the top job in the nation has no "job description" or policy addressing profound lack of experience, qualifications and ability to do the job at hand. If he were employed by corporate America, he'd be unemployed.
The problem in 2008 wasn’t that the media picked our candidate, it was that all our candidates sucked. McCain, Romney, Huckabee, enough said.
I had my hopes on Thompson and he turned out to be a dud too.
Not only that, I wasn’t paying you $500K a year out of my pocket, not to mention travel and security costs.
No, couldn’t be all those White House Parties either, dancin and singin with Paul Mcartney serenading each other with their emphatic love for one another, while the Gulf Bleeds....
Besides the Dems have lost all credibity for all their liberal causes, Where are the war protestors as Obama ramped up the wars and will not get the troops home any faster then G.W. Bush would have. Where are the enviro wackoos like Green Peace? They should be enmassed outside of the White House every day dousing oil on themselves out of empathy to the Gulf wildlife. Where is the Hollywood crowd? What no Obama incompetency films by Michael Moore, no cursing by Sean Penn, what Rosie strangley silent? Speaking of rosie where is the gay crowd? Obama failed to get DADT repealed he failed on gay marriage and they give him a pass.
As far as I am concerned all the Liberals are unprincipled fools.... The next time they try and stage a protest when a Republican is in office they should be promptly reminded of their failures to hold Obama accountable.
But then again it is the media’s fault and they won’t ever hold him accountable.
oH nO...THEY picked McCain and especially because of his birth certificate. He was the only one they could run against the Kenyan. A wash.
Don’t kid yourself, Romney/Huckabee would have lost too.
And the best conservative choice was just an actor.
This is when Obama becomes dangerous... when he starts to lose the support of his base. His narcissistic self has never in his life been told “no” by anyone. All through his life, he operated in a world without opposition. Chicago is a one-party town, and support from the masses is just taken for granted.
Why can’t Obama plug the hole? The answer has to include a discussion of the nature of the hole. It’s a technical issue, based on www.theoildrum.com that I mentioned earlier. This hole is a real toughie because oil is not just coming out of the pipe. It’s also coming out from cracks around the pipe. Plugging the pipe just causes more of the oil to come out from the cracks around the pipe.
It’s in the hands of engineers and undersea construction people and managers who give them all the help they can.
I think Sarah Palin would have known how to handle this. I believe as VP should would have been an excellent advisor and made McCain look real good. Maybe even presidential.
I’m not so sure. Millions of conservatives did not like McSane and stayed home and did not vote, especially in states like Ohio...anyone we chose, although dismal, could have done better than the one foot in the grave he is probably going to die anyway propoganda from the left.
The title of Puke that I’ve bestowed on him is far too generous.
Romney is Mormon, and was publicly pro-choice for most of his career, the evangelical vote would have deserted him in droves.
And Huckabee’s populist schtick didn’t fly with a lot of fiscal conservatives either.
Bottom line, if we had a strong candidate, then the media wouldn’t have been able to “pick our candidate”, the media will always support the weakest Republican candidate, but a strong candidate would have overcome it. We didn’t have any one close to be a strong candidate.
Any way, I’m done rehashing 2008, let’s just make sure we have a strong candidate in 2012.
The fact that a Hussein Muslim with no experience won in this day in age is incomprehensible. It’s a combo of conservatives with principles and young liberals without a clue.
Hey, we’re a country that kills more than 1 million babies every year.
Nothing we do is that incomprehensible.
And more. Good comment at WSJ
Lewis Stepp wrote:
The government collects billions of dollars from oil companies for drilling on government land and waters. When government explicitly permits individuals or companies to engage in risky activity that endangers the safety or property of its citizens, like deep water drilling, then it is the undeniable responsibility of the government to have the rules, resources and a plan in place to mitigate and manage the risk.
The US government was not prepared for this or any Gulf spill. That is as unacceptable as the risks that BP took.
Geoff Wilson replied:
collecting billions of dollars of fees really means that the government is collecting billions of dollars from US, the electorate, who then have to pay those costs through higher oil prices. Surely you recognize that. So, that means that you already paid for the level of protection the government provided in this case. How’d that work out for you? The electorate already paid billions of dollars in fees for “oversight” that was supposed to prevent this type of thing from happening. Why is no one talking about government failure here? I mean, either the government is in charge or it is not, right? How come they are in charge when things are going right and collecting the fees to prove it, but then when something goes wrong, all of a sudden BP is the bad guy?
Once again...young liberals without a clue. Point taken.
Yippie! Now we get to buy more oil from the bad guys.
Scott Brown met with 0bama today in the oval office and spoke frankly to him...not sure it did any good. Scott was stressing no new taxes for oil spills.
This gulf thing was the perfect deflection; only its now out of hand and worse than the original problem.
That's why he looked so damn fake and weak last night. His handlers' plan did not work out and he's going to be eviscerated because of it; more over, he knows it.
The MSM will do whatever it wants to because the idiots in this country sold their liberty and freedom for cable TV. The TV networks (who own 95% of all the channels) will stick up for Obama no matter what.
Fox/Saudia News is only a bit better.
Don't forget that we had Democrats voting for McCain in states like NH for the primaries. In NH all you had to do was say you were planning to move here and you were allowed to vote. I was stunned at the number of Massachusetts plates I saw in the parking lot on the primary voting day.
I also had my hopes set on Thompson.
If Soetoro is still a viable candidate in 2012 then the Press and the Democrats will, indeed, choose the Republican candidate because large, perhaps overwhelming, numbers of Democrats will re-register as Republicans to vote in the Republican primaries. The Republican primaries will be especially targeted by Democrat vote fraud organizations like ACORN or whatever acronym it is flying under at the time. We need for Mrs. Bill to mount an insurgent campaign against the Kenyan to keep the Democrats in their own primaries. At the same time Hilarius in actual contention is itself a scary thought tempered by the knowledge that insurgent winners of nomination against incumbent presidents have not heretofore won the ensuing elections.
Same with Hunter. Republicans like to have their names on the list of candidates. They don’t like the strenuousness of actually running and the thought of winning leaves them cold. Palin is the exception and seems to be actually serious and obviously studied Reagan’s techniques.
and not really necessary when the whole government is a protection racket.
Man. Even ol' "Slow Joe" Biden is looking like an improvement.
Well said. I heard a self-important media type prattle on recently about the importance in American industry of establishing a "society of innovation."
*knock knock* Hello? Yoo hoo!
Ever heard of free-market capitalism and individual liberty?
What a maroon.
I agree with Boardwalk -- the media did pick our candidate.
First of all, it had us all panicked into thinking, "Whoever can beat Hillary!" And that held on to the very end; Obama came out of the blue. But after having so many very big-government politicians on the Republican side, the center had shifted so far left that Obama was possible.
Second, the MSM did, and still does, manufacture the perceived popularity of candidates. The very truth that so many liberals win by vote fraud (Al Franken, anyone?) is proof enough that the popularity level is illusion. Democrats and liberals have to cheat to win because if they didn't, they'd lose because most voters would reject their guy.
Third, even purported conservative-friendly Fox snubbed Thompson, plain and simple. I lost all respect for Britt Hume. Thompson accomplished on a small budget and a fraction of the time frame of his opponents, to place equal to Romney; I remember in one state he beat Romney! He was right on his tail, and was the only candidate Rush Limbaugh identified, and I quote, as "the one conservative on the stage." If you watched the debate, you saw that he was the only candidate to buck the environmentalist global warming hooey, the THIRD RAIL.
People, I mean to tell you, no matter WHO the candidate ... that was newsworthy.
Yet nary a flicker of interest from Britt. Thompson was, to them, the invisible candidate. I like Fox, but I don't trust it any more than I trust the other MSM corporate-thinks.
It was disgusting. My contempt for the lack of honor in news reporting runs deep.
Thompson did not have the energy to run.
The media wasn’t the cause of that.
He was drafted to run because he didn’t really want it, and to win a nomination or a election you have to really want it.
Fred had the right stance on the issues, but it takes more than that. He didn’t have it.
Also the Wednesday, 6/16/2010 Speech after the BP Meeting ...
However, if Obama is a possible, but not sure-thing, candidate for the 'Rat nomination, it will be great fun to watch liberal heads spin as they try to decide to stay 'Rats and protect Obama, or re-register as republicans to throw the 'Pub nomination to Palin, who they believe could not possibly win the general.
Hillary vieing for the nomination could only make it more entertaining!
Do they sell popcorn futures? LOL
FWIW, I’ve also got both those images set up as actual bumper stickers over here: http://www.zazzle.com/birds_died_bumper_sticker-128074832290588010?gl=oceander