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Ron Paul’s Shocking Message To The Tea Party (Doesn't like today's rally) [Tinfoil Alert]
Digital Meeting Center ^ | August 28, 2010

Posted on 08/28/2010 1:55:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul has some surprising news for the Tea Party:

You’re being taken for a ride.

At least this is what many libertarians like Ron Paul believe when they see someone like Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin trying to lead the Tea Party at the “restoring honor” rally this weekend. In fact, Ron Paul believes, if you’re looking for real freedom, you should really go back to the core of the constitution and the bill of rights, which Beck and Palin do not fully endorse when you really look at their beliefs. Whether it be Palin’s support for starting more wars or Beck’s beliefs on paying the private Federal Reserve MORE interest on our money by means of a VAT tax.

Ron Paul believes in neither of the above.

Here was Ron Paul’s message to the Tea Party via The New York Times just the other day:

“As many frustrated Americans who have joined the Tea Party realize, we cannot stand against big government at home while supporting it abroad. We cannot talk about fiscal responsibility while spending trillions on occupying and bullying the rest of the world. We cannot talk about the budget deficit and spiraling domestic spending without looking at the costs of maintaining an American empire of more than 700 military bases in more than 120 foreign countries. We cannot pat ourselves on the back for cutting a few thousand dollars from a nature preserve or an inner-city swimming pool at home while turning a blind eye to a Pentagon budget that nearly equals those of the rest of the world combined.”

While the Tea Party will be out supporting Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin this weekend, you wonder how many of them will be in full support of more wars and paying more interest to a group of untouchable and unauditable private bankers otherwise known as the FED? This is precisely what Ron Paul is asking the American public to consider when looking at the Tea Party leaders and see if they really stand for what they believe in.

Ron Paul believes the Tea Party is not about “left” or “right” like a lot of political pundits make it out to be. It’s about the constitution, and limited government.


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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's all about the Constitution all rght. And where does "Provide for the Common Defense" come from Ron? Paul seems to picture defense as America, the Alamo. I'd rather not be sitting here waiting for the enemy to gather its forces and make its move. We tried that in the 90's and it resulted in 9/11-- it didn't work out to well.
41 posted on 08/28/2010 2:34:55 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: FrankR
Ron Paul is as fruity as a nut cake...a tall Ross Perot.

IF Ross ran for President, again, I'd vote for him, again...

42 posted on 08/28/2010 2:35:16 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul may have renounced war in perpetuity but I’m afraid our enemies haven’t. I prefer to have a president who hasn’t renounced the threat of force against those who would attack us. Sarah Palin has not advocated to start any wars. This is the same garbage that was used against Barry Goldwater and Reagan and will be used anytime Republicans are considering a conservative presidential nominee.

It’s a weak president that gets us into wars. A president who sends mixed and confusing messages or wears his pacifism on his sleeve that prompts actions against us. Remember the 444 days of hostage taking in Iran that Jimmy Carter visited on us after he failed to support the Shah and allowed religious fanatics to gain power. If Obama keeps his promise and withdraws troops from Afghanistan in 2011, it will be seen as weakness and will invite attack. We need a president who will do what’s in the best interest of the US rather than what the UN or any foreign group wants.

Glen Beck isn’t going to run for any office, so who cares what positions he takes.


43 posted on 08/28/2010 2:36:23 PM PDT by excopconservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

44 posted on 08/28/2010 2:37:13 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: roses of sharon
...while accomplishing NOTHING in Congress.

I have been asking the paulbots about this for about a year. So far not one has been able to explain, other than "at least he is trying." The ONLY thing he has ever accomplished is getting as many earmarks through as possible.
45 posted on 08/28/2010 2:37:53 PM PDT by John D
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul doesn’t believe in honoring treaties made under the constitution. He constantly quotes George Washington’s farewell address remarks against more entangling alliances, but never quotes the very next sentence where Washington says we must honor the agreements we’ve already made.

Ron Paul is very good on domestic policy, but when it comes to foreign policy he’s a fanatical isolationist.


46 posted on 08/28/2010 2:46:02 PM PDT by devere
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Whether it be Palin’s support for starting more wars

What if the wars are just and necessary to protect our natural rights from external threats, which is one of the main purposes of government?

47 posted on 08/28/2010 2:47:06 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul is a loony tune. It’s all that support for legalizing marijuana that Libertarians espouse.


48 posted on 08/28/2010 2:47:10 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (IMPEACH Barry Dunham Soetoro aka Imam Barack Hussein Muhammad Obama!)
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To: samtheman

I think Paul’s supporters on FR have given up the ghost. I can understand why. The air around here is getting almost too foul, even for me.


49 posted on 08/28/2010 2:49:14 PM PDT by Misterioso (The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly.
I think a lot of people had prepared remarks before the event and they don’t fit with what actually took place. Paul’s comment certainly sounds that way.

Beck’s rally was a bit churchyfied for me, but overall it was a positive uplifting message and apolitical.


50 posted on 08/28/2010 2:52:16 PM PDT by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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To: anchorclankor

Thanks.


51 posted on 08/28/2010 2:52:40 PM PDT by Misterioso (The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: samtheman

I think a lot of the FR Paulites have caught on to him—and we shouldn’t rub it in.


52 posted on 08/28/2010 3:03:15 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Fee

I agree. It is self governance that allows us to have small government. Freedom without any controls just leads to chaos which eventually leads to enslavement by some authoritarian body.


53 posted on 08/28/2010 3:09:21 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: Chaguito

Thanks!

Needless to say, he was sort of mischaracterized.


54 posted on 08/28/2010 3:12:03 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: Lorianne
"Beck’s rally was a bit churchyfied for me, but overall it was a positive uplifting message and apolitical."

I agree, but we should celebrate what is good, right?

55 posted on 08/28/2010 3:12:50 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I am a very strong supporter of using our military, ruthlessly, to pursue our core strategic interest in the world.

I did, and do, support the war in Iraq and would immediately eliminate Iran's ability to project any kind of power anywhere.

However, I don't believe we need 700 bases in 120 different countries. Definitely we should withdraw from Europe (maybe keep an air base or two), Japan (same thing). We also have a lot of small bases scattered around that could easily be closed without jeopardizing our security, and in most cases the security of the host country.

And, I don't get Afghanistan. I believe we should have left once we routed the Taliban...

56 posted on 08/28/2010 3:14:54 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am not a Ron Paul fan when it comes to foreign policy, the guy believes we’re living in a vacuum and deserved what we got on 9-11.

That said, I am not for a VAT tax.

that said, I am not for starting any new wars. I am certainly for letting our military run open and finish the existing wars we’re in. I am for pulling out of countries that we can leave (Europe for example) that have demonstrations that don’t want us there.

As for new threats that arise, instead of sending troops, I am not against using our varied and vast arsenal of missiles. Conventional and otherwise.


57 posted on 08/28/2010 3:19:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As if I care what Ron Paul thinks. I’m just remaining hopeful the son isn’t like the father..


58 posted on 08/28/2010 3:20:37 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He is a libertarian. They loose reality constantly.


59 posted on 08/28/2010 3:23:03 PM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Whether it be Palin’s support for starting more wars or Beck’s beliefs on paying the private Federal Reserve MORE interest on our money by means of a VAT tax.

Does Beck really favor a VAT tax? I only listen to or watch him occasionally, so am not aware of every policy he might favor or oppose.

60 posted on 08/28/2010 3:25:58 PM PDT by Will88
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