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If you are a Palin Patriot what should you do now?
Nolan Chart ^ | October 9, 2011 | Mark Vogl

Posted on 10/09/2011 6:59:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah Palin is a very special American, she appeared to be our next Ronald Reagan, but with her deicsion not to run, what should we do?

Sarah Palin was my hope for America! And while her future was uncertain I was unwilling to listen to the babble of Republican Primary. I was set on Sarah. For me, she was the answer, and I honestly believed I would be able to cast a ballot, whether it be Republican or Independent for Sarah. Sarah seemed to have that rugged American personality which had not been corrupted by special interests and assimilated into the neo conservative view of globalism. Sarah appeared to be an America First candidate, one with an inherent optimism based on what she knew of America and our history.

When I read the headline stating her decision not to run it was like having the wind knocked out of me. My first emotion was disappointment, my second was futility. America is collapsing and it's not just economically. We are not an America of Christian values, our President has denied we are a Christian nation. I said to myself; I will just sit this one out, let America burn in its own selfishness and wait for the only remaining political answer, secession!

And, if Sarah was driven out of the race by the “politics of personal destruction” then we deserve every evil which happen to us.

But then God got into the act. This morning while preparing for Mass I turned on CNN, to see first Herman Cain and then Michelle Bachmann interviewed by a heavy set liberal woman named Candy.

My first impression of the interview questioning was the obvious bias in every word said by Candy. Her point of view had two purposes, one to create tension between the half dozen Republicans running for office and secondly to demean first Herman and then Michelle. No questions were asked which attempted to find out the issues and positions of either candidate. Instead questions were intended to establish false realities, or to minimalize the political potential of either candidate. Candy did her best to walk these two Republican conservatives into discussions which could not help them with the electorate. And in every case the two were smart enough to avoid the purpose of the question. At one point, in obvious frustration, Candy said to one of the candidates, “would you admit you have avoided the question?" The answer given seemed to say; no, I just didn't answer it the way you wanted me to!

This was my first time to listen to either of the candidates for any extended period of time and I was impressed by both of them.

Herman Cain is for real. He has lived, risen in the business community, has life experience and seems to have a solid intellectual and character foundation. And one great advantage for Cain is that he is an African American and can speak to issues of race without having to couch his terms in apologies and understatement. Cain also knows business and knows the American economy cannot be engineered to take off through government projects.

Michelle Bachmann is very sharp in her interview skills and knows her views on governance. She also knows politics. My great worry about Michelle is that Congresspersons normally don't have a large enough electoral base to translate into at least a statewide start. Michelle has an advantage over Herman in that she knows what being elected to office means. She knows the connection between office and constituency and policy. And she has an understanding of legislative politics that only someone serving, or their staffs, can know.

Where Herman and Michelle are equal is that they are both excellent thinkers and speakers and they both seem to have a solid conservative philosophical base.

So this morning when I woke up I was sitting out the GOP primary, and by the time I got into the truck to drive to Mass I was reinvigorated by the choice of these two Americans. Thank you God.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties
KEYWORDS: bachmann; cain; crymeariver; obama; palin; sarahpalin
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To: Lakeshark

“Perry supporters are by far the worst. They support him in spite of overwhelming evidence he is not the conservative candidate he claims to be.”

they are basically supporting him because he has money and a large campaign staff. Vote for Perry because his team can come up with great ads against Romney!


101 posted on 10/09/2011 10:00:47 PM PDT by ari-freedom (We need a Steve Jobs Plan: encourage innovation, not regulation.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m going with Herman Cain. I believe he matched Palin in conservative beliefs and equals her in experience.

In honesty, he has no equal.


102 posted on 10/09/2011 10:03:00 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I Stand With Cain!)
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To: onyx

I am a Christian Soldier. It doesn’t escape me.


103 posted on 10/09/2011 10:07:54 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress

May God always bless and keep you, dearest eyedigress!


104 posted on 10/09/2011 10:11:21 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR so, support it! Compiling New Sarah Palin Ping List! Tell me if you want on it!)
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To: onyx

I pray for this family everyday. Even when they let me get out of line. :^)


105 posted on 10/09/2011 10:13:33 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m going with Perry/Cain 2012

Sarah would make a great VP, and it would keep her relevant. I doubt she’ll get the nod again.


106 posted on 10/09/2011 10:44:11 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Aria

Sarah is no longer “leading” conservatives, at least not many. It is my belief that without being in the hunt for the nomination, she will not be able to steer Romney or Perry on a single issue. Bob


107 posted on 10/09/2011 11:36:23 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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To: GlockLady

GL, it seems as if you are trying to convince yourself that there is something positive to take from her withdrawal. I don’t believe that there is, and you don’t sound like you’re doing a good job convincing yourself. Ah well. lol Bob


108 posted on 10/09/2011 11:42:04 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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To: eyedigress
The story behind this is real. Cain would have rather captured him. Obama took him out. Don’t blame Cain for that call.

My position is that al-Awlaki, as an enemy combatant, was a legitimate U.S. military target just as every single Confederate at Gettysburg was.

I am not blaming Cain for anything except for talking out of both sides of his mouth. The point is that, no matter what position you have on the matter, slick-talking Cain has already agreed with you.

When Cain was asked about his change in position, note how he LIED and denied he had ever made the previous statement.

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Cain, May 5, 2011, Regarding the killing of al-Qaeda terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki

"He should be charged. And since he's an American citizen, he should be tried in our courts," Cain said of al-Awlaki. When asked if he considered it legal for President Obama to order al-Awlaki killed, Cain said, "In his case, no, because he's an American citizen. If he's an American citizen, which is the big difference, then he should be charged, and he should be arrested and brought to justice."

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Cain, October, 2011, Regarding the killing of al-Qaeda terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki

"Asked why he had backed off his opposition to the U.S. military's targeting Anwar Awlaki, the al Qaeda terrorist and American citizen who was killed Friday by a drone strike in Yemen, Cain denied that he had ever opposed taking out Awlaki. “I never said that [President Obama] should not have ordered [the killing]. I don’t recall saying that. I think you’ve got some misinformation," Cain said. "Keep in mind that there are a lot of people out there trying to make me sound as if I am indecisive." ======================

Cain is great at sound bites but he is not a man that seems to have studied the matters he talks about very deeply.

For example, Cain throws out pro-Israel tough talk because conservatives want to hear it but Cain had not even studied the subject deeply enough to know what "Palestinian right of return" meant.

(The "Palestinian right of return" is a term used by the Palestinians to signify the long-held Palestinian demand that ALL DESCENDENTS of 1948 Palestinians had a right to return to Israel which, of course, would mean the automatic death of Israel. That "Poison Pill" has been around for decades.)

Yet, although crucial to understanding the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, the uniformed Cain first heard the term in a FOX News interview:

"Where do you stand on the right of return?" asked Wallace. ... "The right of return? [pause] The right of return?" asked Cain. ... Wallace then offered more information, "The Palestinian right of return."

After being told it was about Palestinians returning, still clueless about the long and complex history of that Palestinian position, Cain declared he was "for it".

Cain is all red meat and no substance.

VIDEO: Herman Cain thinks Palestinians entitled to right of return

The winner in all this has been Mitt Romney.

Maybe that was the Romney/Cain game plan all along.

Herman Cain said Wednesday that he would be unable to support Rick Perry for president if the Texas governor were to eventually win the party's nomination. .... The former businessman said, for instance, that he could support former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney....

109 posted on 10/09/2011 11:54:07 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama should be Priority Number One.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Horsepucky! Newt was just angling to get some face time on TV. He and Trent Lott(for sale) were the reasons I quit the repubs many years ago! Neither of those two were trustworthy then, and Newt isn’t now. Yes, he comes up with all sorts of ideas, some of them pretty good, but he would sell his grandmother for a nickel if he thought he could get away with it...

JC


110 posted on 10/10/2011 3:52:54 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: Polybius

Bad, BAD judgment on Cain’s part.


111 posted on 10/10/2011 3:59:33 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What should Palin patriots do now?

Wait patiently.

All of the losers in "the process" now are going to be destroyed by that process, because that's its purpose.

By March, when the awful clarity of Obama vs. little Obama (Romney) becomes clear, other forces will come into play.

112 posted on 10/10/2011 4:02:33 AM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic
Keep up with what is going on and know there is plenty of time to figure out who you are going to vote for.

Ah, I love the smell of common sense in the morning...

113 posted on 10/10/2011 4:04:13 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: onyx

Always good to see you!


114 posted on 10/10/2011 4:14:18 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: cracker45

At least you’re not showing any bias. [cough, cough]


115 posted on 10/10/2011 4:23:14 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Reagan Man

“You don’t get elected Governor of the most conservative state in the union three times if you’re not doing a good job.”

unless your primary opponets are as weak as KBH (or worse), and your general electyion opponet is a run of the mill Democrat.

Electorial success doesn’t prove Conservative credentials, else we would be shouting out Olympia Snowe’s “conservatism..........”

Give us all a break, the Texas gov., even while running for office against KBH had to seek help from real Conservatives to ge re-elected, because his first administrations didn’t make the case you say it did. Guess clothespin sales peaked in Texas in 2010.


116 posted on 10/10/2011 4:25:09 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Jedidah

Aside from the TTC, what eminent domain issues do you have with him?

And his 2006 plurality win was with 4 candidates where he still got 10% more than his nearest competitor.

I agree on Texas not being the most “conservative” state.


117 posted on 10/10/2011 5:06:29 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Prokopton

What do you have against Coolidge?

And Bush was pretty good considering he gave us 2 solid judges (after prodding), cut cap gains taxes, pushed for privatization of part of social security, and vetoed a bill that let federal money go to embryonic stem cells.

And its not like Senators have been all that great. But populists are never happy, I guess.

What would you rather have?

A 3 term congresswoman with no leadership and no proposed legislation?
A 2 term Senator who lost his last election because conservatives wouldnt support him?
A businessman who has never won a nomination?


118 posted on 10/10/2011 5:26:47 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: eyedigress

He has never voted for anything, so how do we know what he will do, just trust his word?

Sounds like another recent campaigner.


119 posted on 10/10/2011 5:32:24 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: BlackVeil

I was stunned. I thought the sarcasm was so obvious, all the cultists would flame me with the fires of hell. It is SCARY how insane these people are.


120 posted on 10/10/2011 5:47:59 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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