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CALIFORNIA: Republicans about to become an afterthought in Capitol
Contra Costa Times ^ | 12/17/11 | Steven Harmon, Bay Area News Group

Posted on 12/17/2011 10:14:55 PM PST by SmithL

Now that Gov. Jerry Brown has decided to take his tax hike initiative directly to the voters, will Republicans have a role to play in the Legislature in 2012?

Or will they be relegated to little more than a cranky but irrelevant presence in the Capitol, holding fast to their anti-tax ideology but with little to show for it?

Increasingly marginalized with dwindling statewide registration numbers, Republicans have already lost leverage on the budget and may soon lose it on taxes if new district lines leave them short of a simple one-third minority.

Perhaps the Republicans' last chance to have a legislative impact was in talks with the governor last spring, but that blew up in their faces when they wouldn't budge on allowing a temporary tax extension to go before voters.

"They're taking a stand on principle, but the price of principle is exclusion from decision-making," said Jack Pitney, an ex-GOP Congressional operative who now teaches government and political science at Claremont McKenna College. "For the time being Republicans have very little influence in the Capitol."

The state GOP has been partially incapacitated this year after voters approved a ballot measure in November 2010 allowing budgets to be passed by a majority -- rather than a two-thirds -- vote. That allowed Democrats to approve this year's budget -- on time for a change -- without a single Republican vote.

Republicans, however, still have the power to block taxes because Democrats don't have a two-thirds majority in either house. California law requires supermajority in the Legislature to pass taxes

But even that point of leverage for Republicans may become obsolete if the newly drawn legislative districts hold and provide Democrats the opening to capture four Senate and Assembly seats -enough for the magical two-thirds majority -as many political observers predict.

(Excerpt) Read more at contracostatimes.com ...


TOPICS: California; State and Local
KEYWORDS: cagop; goldenstate
As conservatives leave, the Golden State becomes even bluer.
1 posted on 12/17/2011 10:15:01 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

At some point, California will go over the edge and that will Republicans.

As long as socialism sort of seems to work, dependent people will vote for it.


2 posted on 12/17/2011 10:27:25 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: SmithL

As soon as the power to raise taxes in California becomes a reality... you’ll see a quiet, but massive, flight of productive people from California.

Which will leave the state even more under the control of the left.

Who will then turn and eat their own.

You can bet money on that.


3 posted on 12/17/2011 10:28:06 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Jonty30

I meant favour Republicans.

Sometimes a population must be battered and bruised for them to learn.


4 posted on 12/17/2011 10:31:36 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: SmithL

California is a hopeless toilet. The best the GOP can do there is try to hold as many US House seats as possible. Forget everything else. The most important thing nationally is that US taxpayers NEVER have to bail the place out. As long as the GOP holds the House we should be safe. Eventually California’s parasites will eat each other.


5 posted on 12/17/2011 10:33:48 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Jonty30

As someone once said, “if Satan ran as a democrat in CA, he’d win easily!


6 posted on 12/17/2011 10:34:23 PM PST by Bulgaricus1 (Fill your hand you son...)
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To: Bulgaricus1

My answer is what else would Satan be, other than a RINO that is.

And, he already has.


7 posted on 12/17/2011 10:53:39 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: All; SmithL
Republicans have been an afterthought in Sacramento since the mid-90s.

Other one two year period of the Assembly in the mid-90s, the CA legislature has been entirely controlled by the Democrat Party.

Making it even more Democrat will not solve the state's problems. It never has.

8 posted on 12/17/2011 11:25:11 PM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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To: SmithL

What is the solution?


9 posted on 12/18/2011 12:50:23 AM PST by Tai_Chung
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To: Tai_Chung

We have almost 40 million people here. Maybe it’s time to split into two states. There is a proposal out there but it never registers with people that such things have happened in the past and there’s no reason they can’t happen again.


10 posted on 12/18/2011 3:02:29 AM PST by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: SmithL

Part of me is hoping that the Mexicans in California become so overwhelmingly prevalent there that they force a secession from the US to adjoin Mexico once again. This will purge the California Scourge from our Electoral College once and for all. There is no hope for California now that illegals, liberals and Democrats have a stranglehold on it now.


11 posted on 12/18/2011 3:07:48 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

I’d get the hell out. I feel that way about NY, Massachusetts and Illinois too! Let the D’s have it. Don’t be stuck with the Rats on a sinking ship!


12 posted on 12/18/2011 3:29:25 AM PST by pithyinme (Obama stimulus is 5 times the cost & half the satisfaction...)
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To: Gaffer

I’d get the hell out. I feel that way about NY, Massachusetts and Illinois too! Let the D’s have it. Don’t be stuck with the Rats on a sinking ship!


13 posted on 12/18/2011 3:29:36 AM PST by pithyinme (Obama stimulus is 5 times the cost & half the satisfaction...)
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To: SmithL
Gov. Jerry Brown has decided to take his tax hike initiative directly to the voters

Huh. Unless it is a "eat the rich" kind of taxes, the initiative sounds like a loser...

14 posted on 12/18/2011 3:35:17 AM PST by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: SmithL

Newt will solve this. His amnesty plan gives power to local boards to grant amnesty to people who can fabricate some handwritten evidence of being illegal in the us for some time.

CA can legalize everybody in Mexico.

Then the ex-illegals can storm other states and complete the takeover.


15 posted on 12/18/2011 4:43:10 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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To: Lancey Howard

“The most important thing nationally is that US taxpayers NEVER have to bail the place out.”

Amen to that.


16 posted on 12/18/2011 4:51:04 AM PST by chuckee
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To: SmithL

While I feel bad for the millions of decent peopel who still live in California, it’s better that the process of trhe state’s implosion accelerates....the correction, and rebirth, can’t start until it hits bottom. There will be NO federal bail out for California...so they are goign to have to make hard decisions..


17 posted on 12/18/2011 4:59:03 AM PST by ken5050 (Support Admin Mods: Doing the tough, hard, dirty jobs that Americans won't do...)
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To: SmithL
Or will they be relegated to little more than a cranky but irrelevant presence in the Capitol, holding fast to their anti-tax ideology but with little to show for it?

Danged bitter clingers.

18 posted on 12/18/2011 5:05:18 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: Gaffer
Part of me is hoping that the Mexicans in California become so overwhelmingly prevalent there that they force a secession from the US to adjoin Mexico once again

I have no doubt that will occur in the future. The demographic trends are moving hard and fast in that direction. As America continues to weaken, few options will be available to keep it from happening.

19 posted on 12/18/2011 5:10:57 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: SmithL

You mean bright Commie red.


20 posted on 12/18/2011 7:21:23 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (If Newt Gingrich is a Reliable Conservative, Joe Biden is a member of MENSA)
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To: Tai_Chung

I left.


21 posted on 12/18/2011 7:27:28 AM PST by SmithL (Proud Tennessee Volunteer)
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To: SmithL

Wonder if Jerry Brown can name any states that have taxed themselves out of debt?.


22 posted on 12/18/2011 7:52:02 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: SmithL

What happened to the Purple pockets?

Is this state doomed to another 20 years of dark winters due to the green effect?

not looking good.


23 posted on 12/19/2011 11:50:08 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: newzjunkey

not to forget Pete Wilson signed off on a monstrosity of a redistricting package in a couple decades ago,, we never recovered.. Gray and EnRon times then descended and the Saga of aRnie then ensued.. and then.. Moonbeam returns.. The Sequel or is it his Pre-Sequel.. The Tax Man Cometh.. It’s the DEmocratic Way, yaknow. Ya take a herd of voters , trick ‘em, lie to ‘em, cajole ‘em before ya know it, Socialist utopia.. on yur dime.


24 posted on 12/19/2011 11:59:03 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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