Posted on 04/29/2013 10:21:08 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney would have won the presidency if the white and black turnout rates had stayed at their 2004 levels, according to a new analysis of 2012 election.
“The battleground states of Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Florida and Colorado would have tipped in favor of Romney, handing him the presidency if the outcome of other states remained the same,” according to The Associated Press’s summary of research by William Frey, an expert at the Brookings Institution.
Overall turnout declined from 62 percent in 2008 to 58 percent in 2012, Frey reported.
The drop-off reduced the overall turnout by up to 5 million votes, despite a slight increase in the number of eligible white voters, said the AP report....
(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...
If enough people stop supporting their country’s demise and vote for a candidate sharing their actual beliefs, we win in a walk. But the “win at all costs” idiots will not let that happen. They will vote for the next hard leftist the GOP serves up and call it patriotism as they did with Mitt Romney...the guy that helped people like Gonsel stay employed.
Texas and California have exactly the same percentage of Hispanic population, Texas went 57.2% republican and elected Ted Cruz.
Romney won 59% of the white vote and lost many white voters as the article mentions, Nixon won 67% of the white vote, and Reagan 64% of the white vote.
Nixon also won 18% of blacks and 35% of Hispanics.
Romney was a 20 year failed politician, a lefty who was pro-abortion, pro-homosexual agenda, anti-guns, a bishop and cult leader, a lifelong anti-conservative, a weirdo who seemed out of touch with everyone, an isolated man who connected with no one, who had no conservative inclinations, no principles, and no reason to be involved in politics at all, and absolutely no reason for being obsessed with being president.
Romney and his 20 year political aspirations are still baffling.
People do not even know his politics, even people on this forum can’t tell us what his 2012 positions on abortion or the Boy Scouts, or the military were.
It is my firm belief that the 2012 Presidential election is the first one where the democrats used the technique of eliminating votes from count in heavily Republican/White areas. They only used to illegally add votes to their tally. Now they both add and subtract. We have been focused on the add side and have been making progress. Now we have to also focus on the subtract side as well.
They should do a large sample size poll in the key states to ask if they voted and for whom did they vote. Also if they were Republican and didn’t vote, why not? I would bet you that Romney would win the poll of those that voted in the key states he supposedly lost. This is why some prominent Republican strategists were left dumbfounded. Not because the votes weren’t there, but because they were not counted.
It was the only way the democrats though they could overcome a landslide when they Benghazi, make Obama a hero, plan went South.
When your past voters who are considered generally the better informed, more engaged voters and who tend to being more morals based and American/patriotic types who see civic affairs and voting as a duty, start staying at home rather than show up to vote for your more recent candidates, then you need to be looking at why.
Wait a second here. Do actually think Ronald Reagan could win today in CA with current environment here in this state?
Do you actually think that Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum could have defeated Obama?
Romney-—running with Paul Ryan ran on a platform of cutting corporate and income tax rates across the board, repealing Obamacare, pro-life, pro-gun, pro traditional marriage, reforming Medicare and Social Security, turning Medicaid, Foodstamps, and other welfare programs over to the states, and a massive increase in domestic oil and gas drilling as well as coal use and nuclear power. They ran as conservatives across the board on every major front-—from the social issues, to spending, and tax issues, and being very pro-business. Was this not enough? Not that Romney was perfect-—no candidate is—he did run an excellent platform which made perfect sense to me. Romney understands the economy, the private sector and business, something which I thought we really needed. And no candidate in the GOP primaries was more tough on illegal immigration than Romney was.
As flawed as Romney was, the country would have been better off with him as president than what it chose. Romney was the lesser of two evils, imo. (I didn’t vote for him in the primaries, but by the time it gets to NY, it’s a done deal unfortunately.)
If you were reading conservative forums, then you must have noticed that many conservatives and Christians could not vote for Mitt Romney, and they didn’t.
Did you know that we lost Ohio, and that Romney was running pro-choice ads there? Do you think that his coming out against the pro-life party platform in August, reduced turn-out, or that his reaffirming his support for homosexualizing the Boy Scouts and military deflated the base?
“cult leader” Ah, I get it now. It’s LDS thing with you. Get it.
Did you actually believe Romney? Did you believe Mr. Allsidesofallissues?
Ya think maybe a lot of us didn’t and promising moon cheese wouldn’t have made a difference for him either?
Of course. Because a homofied, disarmed and aborted America is a lesser evil when a guy calling himself Republican does it.
They do these studies to be able to draw the wrong conslusions later. Do you think they’ll ever come to the conclusion “gee, maybe we shouldn’t fund and nominate a moderate again”? Gerald Ford, loss, George Bush Sr., loss, Bob Dole, loss, George Bush Jr., bare win then bare win, John McCain, loss, Mitt Romney, loss.
No, they’re looking at turnout numbers, as if they matter. “Golly, gee I wonder why conservatives and evangelicals stayed home last November. Couldn’t be because we nominated a moderate, wishy-washy, flip-flopping, unprincipled Mormon who, though he lost to John McCain four years ago, we thought he’d be sure to win this year.” They gave conservatives any number of reasons to stay home, they pushed Romney, then they manipualted the figures in Iowa to give him momemtum for New Hampshire, then they had John McCain join him on the stage, then they literally destroyed any and all possible challengers to him.
But they’re looking at 2004 turnout figures to see why he could have lost. Please! I’m not fooled by this crap. They’ll never draw the honest conclusion from the data, that they’re chosen candidates suck and lose, they’ll draw up some turnout strong man and cry “if only!” Then they’ll push yet another candidate who sucks and will lose, a la Chris Christie or Jeb Bush.
Tough on illegals?
Mr. RomneyCARE routinely kept illegals working
on his sanctuaries, and even when he said
he did not was caught (twice) by the Boston Globe
to have been dishonest.
Mr. RomneyCARE was a terrible candidate who helped
Obama twice.
That said, has the backstabber apologized to Gov. Palin, yet?
Over and over you reveal that you don't think or listen, but instead live in a fantasy of your own creation.
I posted this to you""Romney was a 20 year failed politician, a lefty who was pro-abortion, pro-homosexual agenda, anti-guns, a bishop and cult leader, a lifelong anti-conservative, a weirdo who seemed out of touch with everyone, an isolated man who connected with no one, who had no conservative inclinations, no principles, and no reason to be involved in politics at all, and absolutely no reason for being obsessed with being president.""
and all that you took from it's political history and insights, was to latch onto the words "cult leader"
As far as Romney running as a conservative, read post 48.
Here is what Romney and Ryan ran on:
Across the board cuts in income and corporate tax rates. Check.
Reforming Social Security and Medicare check. Check.
Repealing Obamacare. Check.
Allowing people to buy health insurance across state lines. Check.
Allowing people to have Health Savings Accounts. Check.
Increased domestic oil and gas drilling. Check.
Increased nuclear power. Check.
Increased coal production. Check.
Decreased federal spending. Check.
Turning welfare programs like Medicaid and Food Stamps back to the states. Check.
Preserving traditional marriage. Check.
Enforcing our immigration laws and securing the border. Check.
Pro life. Check.
Pro gun. Check.
I like the entire agenda. I like the GOP platform. I loved the GOP convention, especially Clint Eastwood.
It all worked for me. I likeed the “I built it” theme of the GOP convention in Tampa in 2012. Loved that convention, every minute of it-—except Chris Christy.
I loved the idea of having a president who was a former CEO and new how business operates. I loved the the fact that he put a real reformer like Paul Ryan on the ticket. It worked for me. I don’t demand or expect perfection in politics nor do I except ideological purity. But Romney-Ryan ran on all of the right issues as far as I was concerned.
So you didn’t exercise any reason, did no research into his history of tow faced lying and voted for a fantasy.
That was freaking moronic. Now having hindsight you should feel shame at your mistake and resolve to not do that again. Ever. But you choose to defend it.
So be it.
And aside from the corporate taxes, the voters saw those promises for what they were...a steaming pile of bullshit. Your beloved party offered voters a clear choice last year. They could vote for the liberal, anti gun, pro abortion, pro gay marriage architect of the current health care law...or they could vote for obama. Don't try blaming the voters for staying home when given a choice between Kang and Codos.
What mistake?
I have voted the straight GOP ticket my entie life. Not that every Republican is perfect-—they aren’t. It’s just that most Democrats are virtual Marxists and third party candidates have no chance.
You seem to be a social liberal.
Why do you claim that Romney ran on being pro-life which is the GOP platform position?
Why love the convention which banned Palin and was an in your face snub of conservatives?
Rather than know Romney’s lifelong positions and beliefs, you seem to just want to wave around his campaign material and pretend that is reality.
The reality is that he couldn’t turn out the base.
No kidding.
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