Skip to comments.Republicans Foolishly Try to Get People to Reject Paying $100 a Month for Healthcare (Obamacare?!)
Posted on 09/17/2013 6:46:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
ObamaCare is coming. Or, as Elizabeth Hasselbeck quipped in an oh so not scripted totally planned way today on Fox today, ObamaScare. Yeah, they didnt believe Sarah Palins lies, so well get Elizabeth Hasselbeck to say them.
As Republicans crow that only 23% of Americans want them to destroy ObamaCare because they dont understand it or like it, the big benefits are starting to roll in.
The latest benefit is a doozy, with the Department of Health and Human Services releasing a report today showing that nearly six in ten (56%) uninsured Americans can pay less than $100 per month for coverage.
Yep. Nearly six in ten people who dont have health insurance may be able to get coverage through the Health Insurance Marketplace for less than $100 per month, according to a new report released Tuesday by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).
HHS explains that 23.2 million, which is 56% of the 41.3 million eligible uninsured, may qualify for Medicaid, CHIP, or tax credits enabling them to get insurance at the exchanges for $100 or less a month.
So Republicans want Americans to reject being able to pay only $100 a month for coverage, so that they and their families can go uncovered in order to help Republicans appease a faction of their party. Seriously? The fail is huge on this.
Of course, Republicans have blocked the Medicaid expansion in some states (and you know theyll blame Obama for that and their base will buy it), thereby keeping millions from affordable health insurance. In those states, Republicans are causing insurance rates to rise by denying Medicaid expansion. A RAND Health study found that premiums increase by 8 to 10% if states fail to expand Medicaid.
Tuesdays HHS report shows if all 50 states took advantage of new options to expand Medicaid coverage, nearly 8 out of every 10 people (78 percent) who currently do not have insurance could be paying less than $100 a month for coverage under the Affordable Care Act.
Republicans can continue to ObamaScare the public, but only their base wants ObamaCare destroyed. The public is confused about ObamaCare. Not only have Republicans thrown all of their considerable corporate resources at demonizing the healthcare law, but in typical Democratic style, it has been presented long in policy specifics and short on bumper sticker slogans. Democrats are trying, but short and inaccurate is not their forte and every time they try it, then end up cringing in retreat as soon as theyre busted.
Democrats feel compelled to litter up any public notices with long winded statistical analysis, specific and accurate qualifiers and caveats. (e.g., Republicans voted to end Medicare they got dinged for that, had to add as we know it when if it was not as we know it, it would no longer be Medicare. See Shakespeare and Plato.) President Obama is guilty of this; one of his biggest weaknesses is his failure to simplify things for the public. He routinely thinks that good policy makes good politics.
Democrats should learn from Bill Clinton.
Former President Bill Clinton cut through the fog of lies recently, President Clinton said by not cooperating people in Republican states will be paying for the law, but the benefits will be going to people in other states.
ObamaCare will no doubt have a bumpy roll out, as did Medicare and Social Security. But as people begin to enjoy the benefits, the polls will begin to shift. The only problem will be all of the Tea Partiers and Republicans who are on ObamaCare but dont know it. When they are polled, no doubt they will bash it just like they demanded the government stay out of their Medicare.
Eventually even the most politically unaware will become dimly aware that Republicans are against millions of them getting access to affordable health insurance that is not a pick pocket sham for a corporate business.
Note: HHS defines Marketplace eligible as the eligible uninsured with incomes above 138% of the Federal Poverty Level in Medicaid expansion states or above 100% of the Federal Poverty Level in non-expansion states.
are the payments uder $100 a month?
if all 50 states took advantage of new options to expand Medicaid coverage...”
I thought Obamacare was robbing Medicare to “keep costs down”
Everybody climb on board! What a deal!
Oh, would that break the system and totally screw everyone? [shrug] At this point, what difference does it make?
i wish they would pass what they are smoking my way
What will the “bumpy roll out” look like when people find out that when they go to sell their house they will have to pay 3% to the federal government to support Obamacare.
Sarah Jones is an industrial-strength 0bama ass-kisser.
She probably thinks a gay unicorn delivers a doctor to your door, along with some Chinese food, Cheetos and Red Bull.
OK, Sarah, I’ll make you a deal. I’ll pay $100 a month for my 0bamacare and you pick up the balance. Deal?
Are you calling her a liar? [snort]
This Sarah must be too young to be “Mother” Jones, but she’s cut from the same cloth; make Peter pay for Paul’s medical care.
B. Hussein Obama wants to shut down the US Federal Government so that he will have more free time to play Golf, away from the fog of responsibility.
I guess the fact that this is such a wonderful piece of legislation explains why the unions, federal employees and the congressional staffs are screaming for changes to the law to exempt them from it.
“(i) In 2016, Taxpayers H and J are married and file a joint return. H and J have three children: K, age 21, L, age 15, and M, age 10. No member of the family has minimum essential coverage for any month in 2016. H and Js household income is $120,000. H and Js applicable filing threshold is $24,000. The annual national average bronze plan premium for a family of 5 (2 adults, 3 children) is $20,000.
“(ii) For each month in 2016, under paragraphs (b)(2)(ii) and (b)(2)(iii) of this section, the applicable dollar amount is $2,780 (($695 x 3 adults) + (($695/2) x 2 children)). Under paragraph (b)(2)(i) of this section, the flat dollar amount is $2,085 (the lesser of $2,780 and $2,085 ($695 x 3)). Under paragraph (b)(3) of this section, the excess income amount is $2,400 (($120,000 - $24,000) x 0.025). Therefore, under paragraph (b)(1) of this section, the monthly penalty amount is $200 (the greater of $173.75 ($2,085/12) or $200 ($2,400/12)).
“(iii) The sum of the monthly penalty amounts is $2,400 ($200 x 12). The sum of the monthly national average bronze plan premiums is $20,000 ($20,000/12 x 12). Therefore, under paragraph (a) of this section, the shared responsibility payment imposed on H and J for 2016 is $2,400 (the lesser of $2,400 or $20,000).
IRS ObamaCare Statement on Cheapest Plan Explained
IRS ObamaCare Cheapest Plan; IRS Estimates the Average Family Will Pay no Less than $20,000 for the cheapest plan under ObamaCare. That statement couldn’t be more misleading. Another example of the Media misquoting information. Please read the updates section to get the full story on the IRS: ObamaCare cost.
IRS ObamacareThe Truth on What the IRS Says About the Cost of Insurance for the Average Family
TRUTH: IRS Estimates the Average Family (of 5, making over $120k) is Estimated Pay an average of $20k in 2016 for basic Insurance on the insurance exchanges.
So if these families in the article pay $100 per month, $1200 per year, who pays the rest?
I thought that a young person making 21k or more would not qualify for a subsidy.
So maybe someone making less than 21k per year might be able to buy some crappy insurance for $100, a month or $1200 a year. If that person is young and healthy, there won’t be much left over for booze, cigs, concert tickets, drugs, and dates, let alone rent and car payments.
What do you think that young immortal is going to do? If the immortal gets real sick, there’s still the ER, bankruptcy, and Medicaid.
So, who’s paying for the birth control, Ritalin, Metformin, etc., not to mention when one of the tykes breaks an arm or needs an abortion?
If Medicade and CHIP were already available, why do they need 0bamacare?
If it is so good, why did Congressional staffers with high paying salaries demand the gov provide up to 75 percent subsidies while everyone else with the same salaries must pay all of it???!!!! The US Senate actually threaten to pass a law that states Health Insurance will be withheld to any Senator and his staff if he proposes or votes for a law that requires the Senate and staff to live by Obamacare rules.
So Sarah, tell me just HOW I get on the sweet gravy train of $100/month.
Notice zero healthcare is being accessed, just the “privilege to buy the affordable insurance”!
Kind of like government mandated no-fault auto insurance!
For about $80.00 a month I must buy the required PIP and Liability coverage. This will allow another drivers insurance company to sue mine for some cost recovery, if I am involved in an accident where it is determined I was at fault.
For fifty to one hundred dollars more, I can add “Uninsured Motorist” coverage. I'm not sure why I would buy this.If my car was stolen, how would I know if it was by an uninsured motorist?
For between one-two hundred dollars more a month, I could by a policy that also includes “Comprehensive and Collision” coverage. This would actually help me to get my car repaired or replaced, if my car is stolen or involved in an accident, no matter who was at fault.
Less a $500.00 deductable.
My car is only worth $1500.00. Which insurance policy should I buy? (LOL)
No, I'm not doing anything...really...that's rain you're feeling on your leg.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Lying bitch. I’ll b lucky to keep my doctor let alone my plan
To answer your question:
1.Quit your job.
2.Get a part time job with an employer who does not offer to pay greater than 50% of your healthcare insurance as a benefit.
If they offer a policy, and you refuse to accept it, you are probably not eligiable for the subsidies or exchanges anyways. If they do offer to pay more than 60% of the premiums, you are not only not eligiable, but must pay yet another tax.
3.Carefully make absolutely certain you don't make over the subsidized taxable amount in any calender year for your individual family situation.
“Health care costs, per capita in the US, are about $9000 a year. This article is saying that people can have health coverage for $1200 a year.”
Of course, that’s the point. Who’s going to pay for that? It will be either the middle class who will pay higher premiums or it will be the middle class, who will pay higher taxes.
Those $100 per month premiums apply only if you are on foodstamps (oversimplification alert—it’s not completely accurate, but close).
“If Medicade and CHIP were already available, why do they need 0bamacare?”
Obamacare expands the number of people eligible for Medicaid a whole lot.
This is untrue.
My guess is they will raise the cash assistance for those on welfare for enough to cover the cost, deduct the insurance premium from their card before they see it... presto free health care. How will the government pay for doing that? Simple, just tax those filthy rich people some more, borrow more from China, print more...If it doesn’t work, just blame the Republicans. It is really quite easy don’t you know? That is what makes Obama and his supporters so brilliant.
That's $100/month every month when there are other things to buy; booze, drugs fast food.
One-third of the people who were uninsured before Obamacare came along were already eligible for Medicaid, but were too lazy or irresponsible to sign up (or preferred to get their medical services in the emergency room, where they didn’t have to be bothered making an appointment before they showed up) - Medicaid is a federal-state program for the poor, who pay little or nothing for their care - if they can find a physician willing to see them - it’s no surprise whatsoever that new enrollees under Obamacare will pay so little - it’s what they would have been paying had they bothered to sign up before......
I keep reading that the 100 a month insurance is because of tax credits. If people have to pay upfront and wait for the refund end of year then this program will not work.
WHO is going to “front” the full cost till the tax credit are paid.
We don’t need Heath Insurance in the FEMA Camps - or do we ?
Probably. The people they are likely to put in FEMA camps will have to pay for those that can’t afford it and their own, just as before they were put in the camps. If they can’t...well then what use are they?
And in a few years the states will be on the hook for this, forever.
To get access to everyone else’s money.
American sheeple will not stand for any cheap-assed British health system, they will expect the same as now for no cost to them. As soon as that inconvenient fact sinks in there will be hell to pay, but the dems are big on kicking the can.
Shed assets, quit your job, and go on welfare.
Even "cheaper" is $0/month: put everything in somebody else's name, then commit a major non-violent felony; waive counsel, and plead guilty; grossly insult the judge if he hands down too lenient a sentence. The prison has to provide free medical & dental care, in addition to 3 hots & a cot. Other "bennies" too, such as computers, library, classes, gym, etc. for free. Just make sure it's a white collar prison; or even better, a mental institution.
“We dont need Heath Insurance in the FEMA Camps - or do we ?”
Just remember. China makes the families of executed prisoners pay for the bullet.
The very same people who pay NOTHING now aren't all of a sudden going start paying.
I patiently describe how shoplifters get away with their crimes, because "Someone else" is picking up the slack, with paying higher prices for goods.
The same is true with health care. "someone else" pays when a gangbanger gets shot.
But why Obamacare is a failure, is that the very same innocent taxpayers will continue to pay for the gangbanger, NOW they also have to pay for the ginormous, ridiculous beaurocracy in addition to the uninsured, who will, and always will suck the system dry.
What an unfair question!
Only people with a real non-government job and who pay net income taxes enjoy the privilege of "paying the balance" for the indolent parasites.
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