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Republicans Foolishly Try to Get People to Reject Paying $100 a Month for Healthcare (Obamacare?!)
PoliticusUSA ^ | September 17, 2013 | Sarah Jones

Posted on 09/17/2013 6:46:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

ObamaCare is coming. Or, as Elizabeth Hasselbeck quipped in an oh so not scripted totally planned way today on Fox today, “ObamaScare.” Yeah, they didn’t believe Sarah Palin’s lies, so we’ll get Elizabeth Hasselbeck to say them.

As Republicans crow that only 23% of Americans want them to destroy ObamaCare because they don’t understand it or like it, the big benefits are starting to roll in.

The latest benefit is a doozy, with the Department of Health and Human Services releasing a report today showing that nearly six in ten (56%) uninsured Americans can pay less than $100 per month for coverage.

Yep. Nearly six in ten people who don’t have health insurance may be able to get coverage through the Health Insurance Marketplace for less than $100 per month, according to a new report released Tuesday by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

HHS explains that 23.2 million, which is 56% of the 41.3 million eligible uninsured, may qualify for Medicaid, CHIP, or tax credits enabling them to get insurance at the exchanges for $100 or less a month.

So Republicans want Americans to reject being able to pay only $100 a month for coverage, so that they and their families can go uncovered in order to help Republicans appease a faction of their party. Seriously? The fail is huge on this.

Of course, Republicans have blocked the Medicaid expansion in some states (and you know they’ll blame Obama for that and their base will buy it), thereby keeping millions from affordable health insurance. In those states, Republicans are causing insurance rates to rise by denying Medicaid expansion. A RAND Health study found that premiums increase by 8 to 10% if states fail to expand Medicaid.

Tuesday’s HHS report shows “if all 50 states took advantage of new options to expand Medicaid coverage, nearly 8 out of every 10 people (78 percent) who currently do not have insurance could be paying less than $100 a month for coverage under the Affordable Care Act.”

Republicans can continue to ObamaScare the public, but only their base wants ObamaCare destroyed. The public is confused about ObamaCare. Not only have Republicans thrown all of their considerable corporate resources at demonizing the healthcare law, but in typical Democratic style, it has been presented long in policy specifics and short on bumper sticker slogans. Democrats are trying, but short and inaccurate is not their forte and every time they try it, then end up cringing in retreat as soon as they’re busted.

Democrats feel compelled to litter up any public notices with long winded statistical analysis, specific and accurate qualifiers and caveats. (e.g., “Republicans voted to end Medicare”– they got dinged for that, had to add “as we know it” when if it was not as we know it, it would no longer be Medicare. See Shakespeare and Plato.) President Obama is guilty of this; one of his biggest weaknesses is his failure to simplify things for the public. He routinely thinks that good policy makes good politics.

Democrats should learn from Bill Clinton.

Former President Bill Clinton cut through the fog of lies recently, “President Clinton said by not cooperating people in Republican states will be paying for the law, but the benefits will be going to people in other states.”

ObamaCare will no doubt have a bumpy roll out, as did Medicare and Social Security. But as people begin to enjoy the benefits, the polls will begin to shift. The only problem will be all of the Tea Partiers and Republicans who are on ObamaCare but don’t know it. When they are polled, no doubt they will bash it just like they demanded the government stay out of their Medicare.

Eventually even the most politically unaware will become dimly aware that Republicans are against millions of them getting access to affordable health insurance that is not a pick pocket sham for a corporate business.

Note: HHS defines Marketplace eligible as the eligible uninsured with incomes above 138% of the Federal Poverty Level in Medicaid expansion states or above 100% of the Federal Poverty Level in non-expansion states.


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; U.S. Congress
KEYWORDS: 2014; billclinton; democrats; gop; obama; obamacare; palin; republicans
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Hey Sarah, I've got a bridge I no longer need. Want to look at it?
1 posted on 09/17/2013 6:46:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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are the payments uder $100 a month?


2 posted on 09/17/2013 6:50:23 PM PDT by digger48
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“if all 50 states took advantage of new options to expand Medicaid coverage...”

I thought Obamacare was robbing Medicare to “keep costs down”


3 posted on 09/17/2013 6:53:37 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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Health care costs, per capita in the US, are about $9000 a year. This article is saying that people can have health coverage for $1200 a year.

Everybody climb on board! What a deal!
Oh, would that break the system and totally screw everyone? [shrug] At this point, what difference does it make?

4 posted on 09/17/2013 6:54:06 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

i wish they would pass what they are smoking my way


5 posted on 09/17/2013 6:54:14 PM PDT by onona (The Earth is the insane asylum for the universe (yup, I belong))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What will the “bumpy roll out” look like when people find out that when they go to sell their house they will have to pay 3% to the federal government to support Obamacare.


6 posted on 09/17/2013 6:55:09 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah Jones is an industrial-strength 0bama ass-kisser.


7 posted on 09/17/2013 6:55:55 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: onona

She probably thinks a gay unicorn delivers a doctor to your door, along with some Chinese food, Cheetos and Red Bull.


8 posted on 09/17/2013 6:56:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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OK, Sarah, I’ll make you a deal. I’ll pay $100 a month for my 0bamacare and you pick up the balance. Deal?


9 posted on 09/17/2013 6:57:07 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: digger48

Are you calling her a liar? [snort]


10 posted on 09/17/2013 6:57:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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This Sarah must be too young to be “Mother” Jones, but she’s cut from the same cloth; make Peter pay for Paul’s medical care.


11 posted on 09/17/2013 6:57:19 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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How are they going to get someone to pay $100 for healthcare when they are used to paying $0! These people they are referring to here have not really demonstrated the best financial decisions in their life.......
12 posted on 09/17/2013 7:02:48 PM PDT by martinidon
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B. Hussein Obama wants to shut down the US Federal Government so that he will have more free time to play Golf, “away from the fog” of responsibility.


13 posted on 09/17/2013 7:04:30 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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14 posted on 09/17/2013 7:05:57 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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I guess the fact that this is such a wonderful piece of legislation explains why the unions, federal employees and the congressional staffs are screaming for changes to the law to exempt them from it.


15 posted on 09/17/2013 7:06:19 PM PDT by laconic
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http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacarefacts-images/resources/irs-obamacare-20000.pdf

“(i) In 2016, Taxpayers H and J are married and file a joint return. H and J have three children: K, age 21, L, age 15, and M, age 10. No member of the family has minimum essential coverage for any month in 2016. H and J’s household income is $120,000. H and J’s applicable filing threshold is $24,000. The annual national average bronze plan premium for a family of 5 (2 adults, 3 children) is $20,000.

“(ii) For each month in 2016, under paragraphs (b)(2)(ii) and (b)(2)(iii) of this section, the applicable dollar amount is $2,780 (($695 x 3 adults) + (($695/2) x 2 children)). Under paragraph (b)(2)(i) of this section, the flat dollar amount is $2,085 (the lesser of $2,780 and $2,085 ($695 x 3)). Under paragraph (b)(3) of this section, the excess income amount is $2,400 (($120,000 - $24,000) x 0.025). Therefore, under paragraph (b)(1) of this section, the monthly penalty amount is $200 (the greater of $173.75 ($2,085/12) or $200 ($2,400/12)).

“(iii) The sum of the monthly penalty amounts is $2,400 ($200 x 12). The sum of the monthly national average bronze plan premiums is $20,000 ($20,000/12 x 12). Therefore, under paragraph (a) of this section, the shared responsibility payment imposed on H and J for 2016 is $2,400 (the lesser of $2,400 or $20,000).”

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IRS ObamaCare Statement on Cheapest Plan Explained

IRS ObamaCare Cheapest Plan; IRS Estimates the Average Family Will Pay no Less than $20,000 for the cheapest plan under ObamaCare. That statement couldn’t be more misleading. Another example of the Media misquoting information. Please read the updates section to get the full story on the IRS: ObamaCare cost.
IRS ObamacareThe Truth on What the IRS Says About the Cost of Insurance for the Average Family

TRUTH: IRS Estimates the Average Family (of 5, making over $120k) is Estimated Pay an average of $20k in 2016 for basic Insurance on the insurance exchanges.

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So if these families in the article pay $100 per month, $1200 per year, who pays the rest?


16 posted on 09/17/2013 7:06:34 PM PDT by DBrow
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I thought that a young person making 21k or more would not qualify for a subsidy.
So maybe someone making less than 21k per year might be able to buy some crappy insurance for $100, a month or $1200 a year. If that person is young and healthy, there won’t be much left over for booze, cigs, concert tickets, drugs, and dates, let alone rent and car payments.
What do you think that young immortal is going to do? If the immortal gets real sick, there’s still the ER, bankruptcy, and Medicaid.


17 posted on 09/17/2013 7:09:48 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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So, who’s paying for the birth control, Ritalin, Metformin, etc., not to mention when one of the tykes breaks an arm or needs an abortion?


18 posted on 09/17/2013 7:14:26 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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If Medicade and CHIP were already available, why do they need 0bamacare?


19 posted on 09/17/2013 7:16:49 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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If it is so good, why did Congressional staffers with high paying salaries demand the gov provide up to 75 percent subsidies while everyone else with the same salaries must pay all of it???!!!! The US Senate actually threaten to pass a law that states Health Insurance will be withheld to any Senator and his staff if he proposes or votes for a law that requires the Senate and staff to live by Obamacare rules.


20 posted on 09/17/2013 7:42:34 PM PDT by Fee
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