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Zogby - The GOP Field: How They Stack Up So Far
Forbes ^ | May 14, 2015 | John Zogby

Posted on 05/14/2015 4:36:17 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: bmwcyle

This is not a liberal poll, but rather a liberal pollster’s personal opinion as to how the candidates stack up.


21 posted on 05/15/2015 3:57:06 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Texas Senator Ted Cruz... His message is consistent and uncompromising – an essential ingredient in his brand. He is the party badass and without that he would not even be in the position to try a run. But badasses make noise, attract a lot of passion, and seldom get nominated. When they do – Barry Goldwater in 1964 and George McGovern in 1972 – they get trounced. Besides, if we see Cruz get some traction in Iowa, watch an ABC movement emerge quickly – “Anybody But Cruz” — from not only the establishment but also fellow conservatives. Senator Cruz does not play well with other children. For now, he is polling in the top of the second tier. Odds: 70-1

Neither the media nor the GOPe will be able to beat Cruz on his ideas, passion, integrity, clarity, articulation, etc., and so they will do everything than can to paint him as mean, grumpy, bad boy who hates woman, children, old people, and puppies.

22 posted on 05/15/2015 4:04:59 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

They are fixed until the election to sway opinion. Wake up


23 posted on 05/15/2015 4:30:19 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush... Given the GOP tradition of ultimately nominating the heir apparent or the most moderate candidate in the field, he wears both hats. But something doesn’t ring true just yet. He is being booed by the most ardent conservatives, his polling numbers are anemic (especially in both Iowa and New Hampshire) and he should be doing better for someone who represents an iconic name in the party. I give him 5-1 odds, but he should be in better shape.

So let's take a close look at what has happened since 1976, when the GOPe has nominated the heir apparent or most moderate candidate in the field:

Gerald Ford: Lost to Jimmeh "the Jew-hating" Carter.

George H. W. Bush: easily won a first term thanks to Ronald Reagan's conservative legacy and an uber liberal opponent named Dukakis, but got his ass whoopped running as a moderate against Bill "the Rapist" Clinton.

George W. Bush: He needed help from the SCOTUS to barely beat Al "the Dumbass" Gore, and while his 9/11 credentials should have secured a landslide over John "Swiftboat" Kerry, Bush governed from the center on domestic and social issues and barely won a second term.

John McCain ran as an inside the beltway, GOPe moderate and lost to an inexperienced Marxist/Community Organizer named Barrack "the Kenyan" Obama.

Most recently, the GOPe nominated Mitt Romney (because it was "his turn") who ran as a moderate and lost to the Marxist/Community Organizer

Since 1976, only one GOP candidate has been able to unequivically win the the election for POTUS by a near landslide (1980) and a landslide (1984) by earning the hearts and minds (and votes) of every day Americans -- Ronald Reagan -- the most conservative POTUS in modern American history. Think about it: In 1988, President Reagan won every state, but Mass and Minn.

24 posted on 05/15/2015 4:48:02 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Besides, if we see Cruz get some traction in Iowa, watch an ABC movement emerge quickly – “Anybody But Cruz” — from not only the establishment but also fellow conservatives....

doubt it. Anyway how does zogby come to this conclusion?

25 posted on 05/15/2015 4:51:14 AM PDT by uncitizen (Pamela Geller - Peaceful Protestor)
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To: Labyrinthos

The GOP is right about freedoms and about some very important issues to Americans, such as the right to keep and bear arms.

The democrats are completely wrong on both. But the democrats by focusing on American jobs are going to eventually win, simply because more and more Americans are losing jobs, as ever-more formerly US jobs are sent to China and other places.

The GOP needs to bring back American jobs.

Badly.


26 posted on 05/15/2015 4:51:26 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-tradebalance/c5700.html)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ...

27 posted on 05/17/2015 2:34:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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Here are the hopefuls, by party, some have declared, there may be some I've forgotten to list, I've boldfaced my favorites and put strikes through the unacceptable candidates (that could grow): other possible candidates: Demwits (2 declared, rest possible or probable): other possible candidates:
28 posted on 05/17/2015 2:34:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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29 posted on 05/17/2015 2:37:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"
I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.
[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]
Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance
...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.
[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]
Rand Paul's immigration speech
...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform
Latinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...
[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt's Generals: 'How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?'
Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt's military -- even as Cairo's security forces massacre anti-government activists. [by "anti-government activists" is meant church-burning Christian-murdering jihadists]
[Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat]

30 posted on 05/17/2015 2:37:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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Whoops, Kasich hasn’t declared!


31 posted on 05/17/2015 2:52:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Don’t count Donald Trump out:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/12/16/28934B8800000578-3077773-image-m-11_1431443432798.jpg

I know he gets a lot of bad press here, but he also has a significant level of support as well.

He’s been on the edges of American political power for quite some time. Back to Reagan’s administration (see the photo link, above)

He would not be someone, who would sell us out.

I am very enthused by him, thus far.


32 posted on 05/17/2015 3:00:11 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-tradebalance/c5700.html)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

He might be a good contrast to the POTUS candidate, iow, a good running mate. He has that take-no-prisoners mouth, but as he’d not be up for the top spot, people wouldn’t be troubled by whatever crazy crap he said. He’s also widely recognized throughout the world, and even the lib larvae (up to about age 35) enjoyed that “you’re fired” persona he had.


33 posted on 05/17/2015 3:13:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m not sure I agree with you, that Donald’s not ready for the top spot.

But thanks for your post, all the same. :D

I do think you should hold off eliminating him in the future, at least until we see whether he’s going to enter this race.

If he does, he will be competitive in my view.


34 posted on 05/17/2015 3:18:28 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-tradebalance/c5700.html)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/gop/3290651/posts?page=48#48


35 posted on 05/17/2015 3:33:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’d be interested in a Trump / Palin ticket.

Myself.


36 posted on 05/17/2015 3:51:07 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-tradebalance/c5700.html)
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