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Trump says immigration deal with Democrats close, with border security
Yahoo! Finance ^ | September 14, 2017 | Ayesha Rascoe and Richard Cowan, Reuters

Posted on 09/14/2017 10:00:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As I pointed out during the campaign, but was shouted down here, Trump ( who I ended up voted for) spent much of his life as a Dem, and was basically a New York progressive. So....let’s not be shocked when he reaches out, especially in light of the incompetence of the Rep “leadership” in Congress.


41 posted on 09/14/2017 11:20:13 AM PDT by theoilpainter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reagan made a deal for Amnesty in return for border security....aaaand we saw how that turned out.


42 posted on 09/14/2017 11:26:25 AM PDT by Angels27
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To: MountainWalker

I agree with you. America is dead and socialism is the future.

There was nothing in 2016 we could have done to change things. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are both serial liars and downright awful people.


43 posted on 09/14/2017 11:34:16 AM PDT by Angels27
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To: qam1

Depends how it’s worded. Trump’s not stupid. Not conservative per se, but not stupid.


44 posted on 09/14/2017 11:34:39 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: theoilpainter

Was Ike a progressive from New York? Was Reagan? Because they both did deals with Democrats all the time.


45 posted on 09/14/2017 12:21:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Garth Tater

Yeah, you’ve got it under control, huh?


46 posted on 09/14/2017 12:29:52 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: MountainWalker

Not given up yet - like you have.


47 posted on 09/14/2017 12:38:56 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: Magnum44

I don’t think I’m being overly pessimistic. I’m an optimist as much as I am a realist, but we need to be clear-eyed about the extent of the problem.

I’m also not blaming the president, per se. Our government was built to prevent 1 individual from making sweeping changes. In this case, that safety mechanism is protecting the corrupt entrenched political class.

It’s not just a matter of undoing Obama’s policies. Politics is downstream from culture, and our culture, to be blunt, has gone to shit. The American spirit still lives in many but not as many as before as a voting percentage. And, it’s not just a matter of immigrants and aliens ruining it - many of these America-haters have family roots going back generations.

The kind of people we have in government is an accurate reflection of the people. A plurality of voters still voted for Crooked Hillary. The Electoral College saved our bacon again for the second time in 16 years, but the margins are narrowing. A large college football stadium crowd spread over a handful of states is the difference between President Trump and Obama’s third term.


48 posted on 09/14/2017 12:49:19 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: Garth Tater

Never said I did. I just know we’re fighting a losing battle, but fighting for additional time is still a worthwhile fight.

Guys on death row know their lives are going to end with a needle in their arms, but whatever amount of time they can stall is a victory of sorts.


49 posted on 09/14/2017 12:58:16 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: MountainWalker
Yeah, you did.


Just somewhere to stay until something better comes along, huh? Move along quitter. We don't need you for the heavy lifting ahead.
50 posted on 09/14/2017 1:04:24 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: MountainWalker

I can’t say I disagree with your last post.

FRegards,


51 posted on 09/14/2017 1:05:15 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well I sure hope so, but why give away DACA so cheaply? Tie DACA to something modest like say $4 billion for the wall.


52 posted on 09/14/2017 1:29:35 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: MountainWalker

Ha ha. That is exactly how I feel about Canada, and one reason I am so stoked coming to FR. The US has hope. Canada has none. Nothing to root for here in the great white North.


53 posted on 09/14/2017 1:31:17 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Garth Tater

I also said it’s quite likely nothing better will come along. So, I’ll be here fighting them, kind of like my own mercenary.

My goal is to try and stave off the inevitable communist takeover long enough so that I’ll be in the ground before I’m ever sharing a “climate denier” prison cell with the likes of you and having to endure more lectures about quitting.


54 posted on 09/14/2017 3:19:51 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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I have been a RABID Trump supporter from the beginning, immigration was my number ONE issue living in CA. I see first hand how illegal immigration has changed and destroyed my state!!! Regan was our governor at one time and now both state houses AND governors have been RABID liberals and not to change any time soon!!! I see the dreamers getting a free pass BEFORE the wall AND the wall NEVER happening just as with Regan!!! I am becoming VERY DISAPPOINTED we have ALL been down this road before and it is very hard to go down the same EXACT road with blinders on!!!!


55 posted on 09/14/2017 3:43:29 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: MountainWalker
"I also said it’s quite likely nothing better will come along. So, I’ll be here fighting them,"

Glad to hear you make that commitment, Walker. It's good to know that you'll be here fighting - at least until something better comes along. What a patriot you are.

Do you really think that the men and women who have given their lives for our country didn't have any "better" options? Seriously, you've said enough - quit digging yourself deeper in the hole.
56 posted on 09/14/2017 3:45:33 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: Garth Tater

Oh, bullshit. What’s left of the country that the men and women gave their lives for is rapidly deteriorating if it’s not already gone. My late, decorated WWII vet grandfather would be horrified at what’s become of this country. Indeed, he wouldn’t even recognize it, and he hasn’t been dead that long.

But, you go on being a Pollyanna. Whatever helps you sleep at night, pal.


57 posted on 09/14/2017 4:52:59 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: MountainWalker
"My late, decorated WWII vet grandfather would be horrified at what’s become of this country. Indeed."

And can you imagine how ashamed he'd be of his grandson who has decided to desert the country he fought for in it's time of need. Indeed.
58 posted on 09/14/2017 5:07:48 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: Garth Tater

I’m confident that if he were here right now he’d be asking himself why he lost good friends to watch their children and grandchildren turn the country into a socialist shit show.

This is not the same country anymore. Not even close. When even Secretary Mattis needs to give the military a pep talk to focus on doing their jobs because the country is a dysfunctional shit show, you know things are bad.


59 posted on 09/14/2017 5:19:39 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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