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The Terror Ahead A nuclear attack? Be very afraid.
Wall Street Journal ^ | Oct. 21, 2003 | GABRIEL SCHOENFELD

Posted on 10/21/2003 6:15:02 AM PDT by conservativecorner

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:06:02 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: conservativecorner
I had a gut feeling during the late 70's and early 80's that we were headed for nuclear war, partly because it is hard to imagine that humanity is perfect enough to avoid using weapons that it holds in its hands. I believe that history proves that my gut was not far off, as nuclear confrontations were narrowly avoided in the past.

That feeling receded as the cold war ended, but has now returned, even stronger, as we again face nuclear armed enemies, the Muslim world and, of course, a commie state. Additionally, they are likely encouraged at seeing us sustain a successful hit on 9/11.

If the likelihood is that the US will take a nuclear hit sooner or later, we can still, IMO, avoid some damage by wielding overwhelming power, securing our borders and building a realistic missile defense.

This means overcoming one more obstacle, the political correctness of the Left.

In many ways, we have been living in a paradise in recent years. I hope it can continue, but plan to enjoy it in case it doesn't.
21 posted on 10/21/2003 7:23:20 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
What is an ATGM?
22 posted on 10/21/2003 7:29:34 AM PDT by eastforker (Money is the key to justice,just ask any lawyer.)
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To: MissAmericanPie
We should engage in the same in Iran and N. Korea while denying everything.=o)

Very tempting, I must admit. However, the Israelis bombed the Iraqi nuclear power plant (sold to them by the French!) BEFORE it was fueled and operating.

The reactors in N. Korea and Iran are running, which means if we bomb them we create two more Chernobyls.

23 posted on 10/21/2003 7:31:40 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Poohbah; dighton; BlueLancer; hchutch; risk
ping
24 posted on 10/21/2003 7:33:15 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (its not Kobe, its not Schiavo - it is something that is actually important and relevant to all of us)
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To: conservativecorner
A nuclear arsenal in the hands of terrorist would far worse than in the hands of that little troll in North Korea. If Musharrif is overthrown by the Muslim extremest in Pakistan, that would be a crisis like no other we hacve faced
25 posted on 10/21/2003 7:40:40 AM PDT by MJY1288 (This is your tagline "Bush/Cheney04", this is your tagline on drugs "AnyOtherChoice/04")
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To: eastforker
Anti-tank guided missile.

Not sure how it fits in his tagline sequence.

He doesn't need HEAT and ATGM.

(Maybe the ATGM is inbound ...)

Besides, just call SABOT and go for a kill on the first shot
26 posted on 10/21/2003 7:42:47 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Blueflag
The command after the ammo selection is to identify the target.I was a tank commander in the early seventies,we didn't have guided missles on the M-60,I'm sure things have changed a great deal.
27 posted on 10/21/2003 7:49:04 AM PDT by eastforker (Money is the key to justice,just ask any lawyer.)
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To: Yo-Yo
"The reactors in N. Korea and Iran are running, which means if we bomb them we create two more Chernobyls."

And the downside is?...

--Boris

28 posted on 10/21/2003 7:52:29 AM PDT by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: MJY1288
We may need to guarantee the safety of his government. And others.
29 posted on 10/21/2003 7:53:18 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: boris
"The reactors in N. Korea and Iran are running, which means if we bomb them we create two more Chernobyls."

The greater downside is if we don't bomb them. Imagine multiple Hiroshimas and Nagasakis on a much grander scale.

30 posted on 10/21/2003 7:59:02 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: eastforker
You're right -- maybe the Stryker fires both. M1A1/2 doesn't. I've seen a Bradley and a HUMVEE with TOWs (or what looked like TOWs, but never a MBT.

Never had the honor of being a treadhead myself.
31 posted on 10/21/2003 8:02:25 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: eastforker
Anti Tank Guided Missile
32 posted on 10/21/2003 8:06:35 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Gunner, HEAT, ATGM . . .Identified. . .FIRE . . . On the Way . . . BOOM . . . Target, cease fire)
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To: conservativecorner
Thanks for posting this article. It does an excellent job of defining the efforts that rogue countries have taken to develop nuclear weapons, and also how our ability to prevent it carries grave risks.
33 posted on 10/21/2003 8:06:42 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: TADSLOS
North Korea will eventually employ a nuclear weapon against U.S. Forces in South Korea.

I doubt it. They will likely give a nuclear device to terrorists and wreak destruction by proxy. It may even happen during "Peace" or "Reunification" talks between the two Koreas. It looks like terrorist will eventually use nuclear devices here in the US.

34 posted on 10/21/2003 8:09:10 AM PDT by Consort
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To: SwankyC
bump for later
35 posted on 10/21/2003 8:15:47 AM PDT by SwankyC
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To: Consort
They will likely give a nuclear device to terrorists and wreak destruction by proxy. It may even happen during "Peace" or "Reunification" talks between the two Koreas. It looks like terrorist will eventually use nuclear devices here in the US.

I believe you are correct. N. Korea wants money. The terrorists have money, but no bombs. Simple supply and demand.

36 posted on 10/21/2003 8:17:25 AM PDT by Snowy
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To: dawn53
The author is wrong in that aspect.

We, (America) didn't drop the two atomic bombs in anger, but in a cold, calculating decision. Had we not done such, the cost in manpower and supplies in the Invasion of Japan would have been in the millions in manpower, and billions in supply. That would have been long, and extremely bloody.

The decision made, even with the death toll, eventually, won out.

37 posted on 10/21/2003 8:18:22 AM PDT by Maigrey (These (liberals) are the same people who think therapy will help the terrorists. -GWB, 9/23/03)
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To: Blueflag
The target to be engaged is an ATGM. HEAT (High Explosive Anti Tank) is the type of main gun ammunition the tank commander wants to use.
38 posted on 10/21/2003 8:21:28 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Gunner, HEAT, ATGM . . .Identified. . .FIRE . . . On the Way . . . BOOM . . . Target, cease fire)
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To: dawn53
The phrase "used in anger" or "fired in anger" is fairly common, meaning "actually used in combat" as opposed to tests or exercises.

Of all the nuclear detonations that have taken place since 1945, only two were "shots fired in anger."

The author was not commenting on the emotional state of the American people at the time.

39 posted on 10/21/2003 8:33:20 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Gunner, HEAT, ATGM . . .Identified. . .FIRE . . . On the Way . . . BOOM . . . Target, cease fire)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Thanks, that makes sense,
40 posted on 10/21/2003 8:50:05 AM PDT by dawn53
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