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Bush Praises Islam as Religion of Tolerance
Reuters ^ | October 22, 2003

Posted on 10/22/2003 2:01:10 AM PDT by sarcasm

BALI, Indonesia (Reuters) - President Bush praised the world's most populous Muslim nation on Wednesday for its support in the war on terror and said Islamic terrorists defiled one of the great faiths.

Bush, speaking against the backdrop of a palm-fringed beach and turquoise sea, expressed his gratitude after meeting President Megawati Sukarnoputri and Indonesian Muslim leaders critical of U.S. policies on the Middle East.

``We know that Islam is fully compatible with liberty and tolerance and progress because we see the proof in your country and in our own,'' Bush told a news conference on an island where Muslim militants killed scores in nightclub bomb attacks last year.

``Terrorists who claim Islam as their inspiration defile one of the world's greatest faiths. Murder has no place in any religious tradition. It must find no home in Indonesia.''

U.S. officials said Bush wanted to correct what he felt was a misconception that the war on terror was a war against Islam.

Under blanket security, Bush is paying a symbolic and lightning visit to the island where Muslim radicals linked to al Qaeda killed 202 people when they blew up two nightclubs.

He soon flies to the Australian capital Canberra for talks with key ally Prime Minister John Howard.

Bush paid tribute to the victims of the Bali bombings, the worst act of terror since the September 11, 2001, hijack attacks on the United States.

Indonesia took no chances with security, deploying seven warships along with 5,000 heavily armed police and troops backed up by sniffer dogs and bomb squad units.

Bush, on a six-nation Asian tour, said he would propose to Congress a six-year program worth $157 million to support basic education in Indonesia to aid efforts to build a system that discourages extremism.

``GREAT IMPORTANCE''

While Indonesia's secular government has been allied to the United States in its efforts to fight terror, critics have accused it of failing to explain the dangers of radical Islam to its people and to tackle militancy at its roots, especially in a small number of conservative Muslim boarding schools.

Bush hoped his visit would help dampen anti-Americanism in Indonesia. Megawati told the news conference she attached ``great importance'' to Jakarta's relationship with the United States.

But the Muslim clerics had been expected to tell Bush that U.S. policies in the Middle East, seen as favoring Israel, were one of the root causes of terror attacks in Asia.

They were not immediately available for comment.

In Jakarta, Muslim intellectuals and politicians joined 500 people in a peaceful protest against Bush's visit. There were also small protests in the cities of Bandung and Makassar.

Roads near the airport and the Patra Bali hotel where Bush held meetings were closed during the U.S. president's visit, snarling traffic. The airport was shut for the duration of the visit, forcing the rescheduling of 45 flights to Bali.

``It's like having a war here,'' said bellboy Anak Agung, who works at a resort near the meeting venue.

Bush's praise for Indonesia's role in the war on terror is in marked contrast to the accusations of foot-dragging prior to the Bali blasts. Washington had warned Megawati for months that her country could face deadly attacks.

After the bombings, which killed many locals and tourists from 22 nations, Indonesia cracked down on Islamic militancy, particularly rebels from Southeast Asia's Jemaah Islamiah group, and parliament passed a new anti-terrorism law.

It has arrested 100 militants since the Bali bombings over that attack and others.


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KEYWORDS: apecsummit; bali; bush43; indonesia; islam; praise
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1 posted on 10/22/2003 2:01:10 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
I know that the Islamic scriptures do not back up what GW says, but our soldiers in Iraq are meeting many wonderful people in Iraq. It's too bad that the cult laymembers are intimidated from speaking out for fear of fatwah.
2 posted on 10/22/2003 2:05:26 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (California, Our Kosovo?)
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To: sarcasm
I wish Barbara would give George a good slap now and then.
3 posted on 10/22/2003 2:11:01 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: sarcasm
Where's the Barf Alert??
4 posted on 10/22/2003 2:11:58 AM PDT by chicagolady
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To: sarcasm
I see what Bush is doing. He lavishes praise on Muslims who are conforming, even if in a very limited or tentative manner, to raised expectations, while seeming to give no notice to lapses or outright defiance. Of course, when patience is exhausted, as with an unruly child, a little stern discipline is applied.

The Mighty Hammer of Infinite Justice in the Fist of Allah. You may not believe in it. But the Muslims do.
6 posted on 10/22/2003 2:13:11 AM PDT by alloysteel
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To: sarcasm
Ridiculous. Now President has trademarked a new low in PC. Islam Is The Religion Of Tolerance. TM
8 posted on 10/22/2003 2:20:01 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: sarcasm
Good for President Bush. We'll have to watch the chronic naysayers and knuckle-draggers filter in to claim how much better and knowledgeable they are at forming foreign policy than President Bush is, and some of their names aren't Dean and Kerry and Pelosi.
10 posted on 10/22/2003 2:24:09 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: alloysteel
Ditto!

This cult of chaos will one day have to be taught a hard lesson. After that time comes, I hope the Muslim Putty that is left will form into a more exceptable people!

11 posted on 10/22/2003 2:26:10 AM PDT by Dacus943
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To: Cultural Jihad
But one's name is Neville Chamberlain. Welcome aboard, pal--again!
12 posted on 10/22/2003 2:27:06 AM PDT by Thorondir (iSLAM is a disease begging for a cure.)
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To: Thorondir
Indonesia is different than the middle east.It is much more tolerant.
13 posted on 10/22/2003 2:30:01 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: sarcasm
What will he say after the next USA attack by al-Quieda and he sees all the Muslims jumpimg for joy?
14 posted on 10/22/2003 2:31:00 AM PDT by chicagolady
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To: Thorondir
No he is not retarded, despite all appearances to the contrary. To say these words ``We know that Islam is fully compatible with liberty and tolerance and progress because we see the proof in your country and in our own,.....Terrorists who claim Islam as their inspiration defile one of the world's greatest faiths. Murder has no place in any religious tradition. It must find no home in Indonesia.''
Has no knowledge of history or of religion.
He is nothing but a lapdog for his corporate sponsors who have every reason to continue doing business with people who hate us.
16 posted on 10/22/2003 2:34:57 AM PDT by johnnyb93
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To: Cultural Jihad
Good for President Bush. We'll have to watch the chronic naysayers and knuckle-draggers filter in to claim how much better and knowledgeable they are at forming foreign policy than President Bush is, and some of their names aren't Dean and Kerry and Pelosi.

Very well said. Some of the geniuses around here would have Bush declare war on 1.3 billion people. What's the point of rebuilding Iraq if we're going fight a war against one fifth of the human race (and against most Iraqis)?

Those who ignore how friendly the Iraqis are to our soldiers are (in my mind) close to being traitors to the US war effort. In my mind, it doesn't make much difference whether that treachery comes from the sanctimonious and self-righteous left, or the sanctimonious second-guessing right.

Support our troops. Support President Bush.

It's called wartime, and the time is now.

17 posted on 10/22/2003 2:39:31 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: johnnyb93; TheFool

Reason #234,753 that no one calls you "Mr. President." Only D.U. trolls call President Bush "nothing but a lapdog for his corporate sponsors." Hope y'all enjoy the company you keep.

18 posted on 10/22/2003 2:41:35 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: samtheman
Seems some people can't help but carry water for Osama or Teddy.
20 posted on 10/22/2003 2:43:15 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Thorondir
How profound.
22 posted on 10/22/2003 2:46:12 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: samtheman
Thank you for discussing the point of these statements.

People who want him to insult Islam are being foolish, and I suspect their motives.

We count on people like Jordan, Turkey, and Indonesia as allies. We are working hard to transform Iraq and Afghanistan. It is necessary to encourage the moderate Muslims and marginalize the terroroists. Insults would not be productive.

23 posted on 10/22/2003 2:46:51 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: MEG33
Needless to say, we don't see the Salon Bolsheviki going out to supposedly "cure" the alleged "disease" of a valid religion himself.
24 posted on 10/22/2003 2:48:28 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: sarcasm
Is he saying "nice doggie" while looking for a big enough rock?

I've taken that line since the first "religion of peace" speech, but I admit it's wearing a bit thin. Still trust him more than a 'rat.

26 posted on 10/22/2003 2:51:51 AM PDT by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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To: sarcasm
Bush, on a six-nation Asian tour, said he would propose to Congress a six-year program worth $157 million to support basic education in Indonesia to aid efforts to build a system that discourages extremism.


Why should Indonesia receive our tax dollars?

More foreign welfare
27 posted on 10/22/2003 2:52:22 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (We should all be willing to serve our country, but not our Government !!!)
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To: johnnyb93; Admin Moderator

Did you make a right turn somewhere and got yourself lost, buddy?

28 posted on 10/22/2003 2:52:48 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Indonesia found ,tried and convicted the Bali bombers in an open court.They are having to fight the extremists.I pray they can overcome that segment who wants to take Indonesia into the dark ages.
30 posted on 10/22/2003 2:54:09 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Thorondir
make the bad man's words go away! Waaaahhhh!"
OK, done.

Please lose the tagline. Thanks.

32 posted on 10/22/2003 2:59:09 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: Cultural Jihad
Sometimes one has to look at reality and come to conclusions.
33 posted on 10/22/2003 3:04:05 AM PDT by johnnyb93
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To: Lead Moderator
Why must he lose the tagline?

Kindly look at the subject of this thread before giving a canned response.

34 posted on 10/22/2003 3:06:20 AM PDT by expatguy
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To: Miss Marple
Exactly. It seems many people here don't understand that the phenomenon of "self-fulfilling prophesy" can work both ways. Positive, as well as negative.

Our President is trying to set the stage for a self-fulfilling prophecy that many moderate Muslims will work with us against the terrorists.

It's a good strategy. In fact, I would call it a genius strategy.

Question: Can you think of a strategy that the terrorists would dislike more?

35 posted on 10/22/2003 3:09:51 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Miss Marple
We count on people like Jordan, Turkey, and Indonesia as allies. We are working hard to transform Iraq and Afghanistan. It is necessary to encourage the moderate Muslims and marginalize the terroroists. Insults would not be productive.

Moderate Muslims?

You mean like Mahathir of Malaysia?

If the countries that you mentioned were true democracies, then they would not be our allies.

Things are not as rosy and you would like to think.

36 posted on 10/22/2003 3:10:34 AM PDT by expatguy
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To: samtheman
Question: Can you think of a strategy that the terrorists would dislike more?

Yes.

Having us kill them.

Why do people continuously think that you can negotiate with terrorists?

37 posted on 10/22/2003 3:12:46 AM PDT by expatguy
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To: expatguy
Everyone in Indonesia isn't a terrorist.
38 posted on 10/22/2003 3:18:40 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: expatguy
We are killing terrorists. We are negotiating with people who happen to live in countries where the terrorists live.

Are you saying we should be murdering all Iraqis?

Are you saying it's a mistake to rebuild Iraq?
39 posted on 10/22/2003 3:22:33 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: MEG33
Are you kidding? How about 300,000 dead catholics of east timor. How about the fact that christian persecution and murder is common place.
40 posted on 10/22/2003 3:27:14 AM PDT by flyer182
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To: sarcasm
Note to moderator: Check caffeine level :)

Bush Praises Islam as Religion of Tolerance

This is such a big, bald faced lie. Bush should just say nothing rather than repeating this big lie again and again. It's like saying the "The average SS guard really was a nice guy once you got to know him."

41 posted on 10/22/2003 3:31:05 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Jim Robinson; sarcasm
Bush: "``We know that Islam is fully compatible with liberty and tolerance and progress because we see the proof in your country and in our own,'' "

JR: Then we all thank God again when after the cowardly attack on our nation by a gang of murderous international terrorists we realize how close we were to complete collapse and national destruction had the socialist U.N. loving Al Gore been in charge. Thank God for President Bush!

To which I would agree - but when I hear nonsensical comments regarding Islam - I worry that in centrism, the dems and pubbies really arent much different, and would qualify your comments by inserting a caveat that it will take a conservative of Reagans stature (not republican) to restore what has been squandered in political correctness and social engineering

sorry for the thread jump - but I thought it pertinent to the conversation

42 posted on 10/22/2003 3:32:27 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: flyer182
I am aware of the East Timor killings and the out of control military and the deep distrust of the US.Australia is having some luck.I am not saying this is a muslim country where there are no problems.I am saying it is more tolerant than the middle east.They do go after the bombers.Should we simply erase all muslims from the earth?
43 posted on 10/22/2003 3:33:48 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: expatguy
I do not think that you can negotiate with terrorists. I also do not think the President is trying to be PC nor is he foolish.

There are 1.3 BILLION Muslims, including a sizeable group in our own nation, which include the Nation of Islam as well as immigrants from other countries.

We simply cannot declare a state of War on 1.3 BILLION people. That is a fact which apparently people don't want to face. We are trying to prod the less fundamental types into secularism and marginalize the ones who are dangerous.

"Kill them all" is neither a viable foreign policy nor a believable military strategy. I also have a problem in the idea that we should kill people who are innocent of any wrong-doing, but maybe that's just because I am a Christian who thinks we should set an example to the world, rather than stooping to barbarism.

44 posted on 10/22/2003 3:35:21 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: sarcasm
Dear President Bush: A half truth is a whole lie!

In the Indonesian Bible GOD is translated ALLAH.

45 posted on 10/22/2003 3:46:29 AM PDT by TrueBeliever9
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To: Miss Marple
I don't know,Miss Marple.If the 1.3 billion turn out to really be for the destruction of US,do we surrender?
Also,see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1005635/posts.
46 posted on 10/22/2003 3:51:46 AM PDT by John W
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To: TrueBeliever9

Well, that would make sense since there's only one God, but a thousand names for Him.

47 posted on 10/22/2003 3:53:10 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: John W
Try that again...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1005635/posts
48 posted on 10/22/2003 3:53:48 AM PDT by John W
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No. If the 1.3 billion are all supporting the destruction of the USA, then we take them on, but at a time of our choosing.

The Muslim world spans the globe from northwest Africa to the islands of Indonesia. Should we wish to fight them all, we could not do it. We simply do not have the manpower and equipment to cover that much territory.

The president is both trying to move moderates into the pro-USA camp and also buy us time. I see nothing wrong with his strategy, unless one is wanting an immediate world-wide conflagration.

I am highly suspicious of a lot of Muslims. I do not think that many of them are trustworthy. However, I also think the president is pursuing the wisest course both militarily and in foreign policy.

49 posted on 10/22/2003 4:19:38 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: sarcasm
``We know that Islam is fully compatible with liberty and tolerance and progress because we see the proof in your country and in our own,''

Sheesh. Either he's lying or ignorant. There's no need for this rhetoric.

50 posted on 10/22/2003 4:28:51 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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