Islam Eclipse Now? - Ramadan 2003 and Muslim Prophecy

October 28th, 2003 | Collected by Sabertooth, others

[Sabertooth]

Shortly after the terrorist attacks of September 11th, a few of us Freepers became aware that Ramadan 2003 had special prophetic significance to certain Islamic sects.

They are awaiting a spiritual avatar known as the Twelfth Mahdi, who will lead Muslims to great victories in war over the infidels.

It's believed that this Mahdi will appear during a Ramadan with both a Solar and a Lunar Eclipse. This double Ramadan eclipse will occur this year, for the first time since 1786, and won't occur again until 2155.

For those Muslims who place any credence in this prophecy, this year's Ramadan is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Therefore, acts of mega-terrorism might be more likely during this time. The Lunar Eclipse of November 9th and the Solar Eclipse of November 23rd may indicate days where particular vigilance is warranted.

Below is a table of Ramadan double eclipses compiled by David McNaughton. I'll also provide some links to articles archived at Free Republic with more information on the Mahdi (link to FR keyword).

 
Eclipses during Ramadan
by David L. McNaughton
In "Hamdard Islamicus" (Karachi, Pakistan), vol. XIX no. 1 (Spring 1996): pp. 81-86.

Double Eclipses during Ramadan

Sometimes a Ramadan will contain a solar and a lunar eclipse. That inevitably provokes comment, because of traditions that such a "double-eclipse" is a portent for some unusual event. Ithna'asheri Shi'ites, for example, believe that their Twelfth Imam will reappear after a Ramadan double-eclipse (although those two phenomena will supposedly take place in reverse order, with the solar one occurring in mid-month (5); that will require the moon to suddenly double its speed of movement after the onset of the Holy Month!)

In March/April 1894 (Ramadan 1311), Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (founder of the Ahmadiyya or Qadiani movement in Pakistan) interpreted a double-eclipse as a sign that he was a genuine modern-day prophet (6). The lunar eclipse during that particular month was only partial, although the solar one two weeks later was total in a few places in eastern Asia (7). However, there was nothing at all extraordinary about those two eclipses: every 22 or 23 Islamic years there is at least one Ramadan featuring a pair of eclipses two weeks apart (8) - one of which is usually partial; see Table 1.

Very much rarer is a Ramadan containing two total eclipses.

Table 2 lists all such occasions since AH 1, as well as during the next 200 years (9); (its solar eclipses are all central, with annular ones also included).

It will be interesting to see whether the two total eclipses scheduled to occur during Ramadan 1424 (AD November 2003) - are cited to support a claim similar to that made by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, or as proof of thesignificance of some extraordinary event.

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Table 2

Ramadans with two central eclipses

LUNAR . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SOLAR

AH . . AD . . . . . . . . . . Date . . . Where visible . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Date . . .Where visible

.283 . .896 . . . . . . . ..29 Oct . . .Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . 12 Nov . Canada; Alaska;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(25 Oct) . . landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(8 Nov) . NE Pacific

.305 . .918 . . . . . . . . .5 Mar . . Eurasia; . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20 Mar . .Antarctic; south
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (28 Feb) .NE Africa . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (15 Mar) . .Indian Ocean

.462 . 1070 . . . . . . . . .2 Jul . . .Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . . .16 Jul . . .Arctic; Siberia
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(26 Jun) . .landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(10 Jul)

.529 . 1135 . . . . . . . . . 4 Jul . . .America; Pacific; . . . . . . . . . . . . 19 Jul . . .Antarctic; far
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (27 Jun) . New Zealand . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(12 Jul) . . .south Pacific

.596 . 1200 . . . . . . . . . 5 Jul . . . Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . *19 Jul . Siberia; Arctic;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (28 Jun) . .landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (12 Jul) . . NW Atlantic

1200 . 1786 . . . . . . . . .11 Jul . . . Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . 25 Jul . . South Africa &
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . adjacent oceans

1424 .2003. . . . . . . . .9 Nov. . .Europe; SW Asia; . . . . . . . . . .23 Nov . Antarctic; south
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Africa; America . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Indian Ocean

1580 . 2155 . . . . . . . . .9 Mar . . Europe; Africa; . . . . . . . . . . . . .*2 Apr . .China; Russia;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .America . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kashmir; Mongolia;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .Afghanistan

Notes for Table 2

Central lunar eclipses are always total.

*The central solar eclipses listed above are total unless asterisked - in which case they are annular.

Dates apply to the instant of maximum eclipse.

Extrapolated Gregorian dates are given even on occasions when the old Julian calendar was in operation;
the corresponding Julian date is then shown below in brackets.

A Google search on ramadan mahdi eclipse yielded 243 results.

A Google search on ramadan mehdi eclipse (alternate "mahdi" spelling) yielded 83 results.

[Sabertooth]

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[Sabertooth]

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[Sir Gawain]

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[Bikers4Bush]

Thanks Saber, bump for later.

[farmfriend]

great post. How did I miss getting on you ping list?

[freeperfromnj]

Interesting stuff. I'm going to read some of it on the commute home. Can you add me to your list? Thanks

[Quix]

VERY SOBERING.

THANKS MUCH.

[Dog]

Guess what happened on Nov 8th 2002.....UN passed Resolution 1441.... 15-0......starting us on the path to Baghdad.

[Pyro7480]

Ping!

[Dog]

fyi..

[Shermy]

Leading Sunni and Other Sheikhs Herald the Coming Conquest of Rome (We Will Control the Vatican)

BTW, google "romiyya"

BTW2, Antarctica? I'd think the "two eclipse" theory would be locally visable to the mid east.

[freeperfromnj]

That seems like a date they would mark with a blast if they could.

[Sabertooth]

I've got a number of ping lists: General Interest, Middle East, Illegal Aliens, Archaeology; Science/Crevo; Baseball, Poetry, Sniper Muhammad; LAX Shooter; and Michelle Malkin columns.

You can pick and choose, so let me know which ones you'd like.

[CholeraJoe]

HMMMMM. Sounds like the stuff books are written about.

[muawiyah]

Good work.

[mhking]

Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

[evets]

They are awaiting a spiritual avatar known as the Twelfth Mahdi Leeloo?

[DoctorMichael]

Superstitious/Art Bell/Tinfoil/Knock-on-Wood/666/Insane Islamists Bump.

[eyespysomething]

bump for later

[ex-Texan]

*BUMP* ! Great Work, Sabertooth !

[Sabertooth]

Antarctica? I'd think the "two eclipse" theory would be locally visable to the mid east.

Not sure it matters. Double Ramadan Eclipses happen so rarely that there's not much point in biding one's time, if one is inclined to terror/assassin cults.

What's the scoop on romiyya?

[wtc911]

You might wantto ask one of our resident muslims what they think.

[farmfriend]

I've got a number of ping lists:

Hahaha, and I thought I was bad. I have two lists plus blam's list.

[mhking]

Leeloo?

Moolteepass....

[RightWhale]

If they believe in eclipses, they are more primitive than we feared.

[Shermy]

"What's the scoop on romiyya?"

You'll get more results if you "exact phrase" search "Constantinople or Rome"

Try it!

Naturally, a Wahhab might not think "Constantiople" has been conquered yet to his (never "her") satisfaction.

[swarthyguy]

A wahhab would say, if a wahhab could,

Istanbul, not Constantinople!

[LiteKeeper]

INTREP - ISLAM

[Shermy]

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam!

[Shermy]

If they believe in eclipses, they are more primitive than we feared.

They? Have you ever listened to the Art Bell show?

[Sabertooth]

If they believe in eclipses, they are more primitive than we feared.

That's nothing.

Some believe that foreigners can make Muslim penises disappear with a mere handshake... here

[appalachian_dweller]

Thanks Sabertooth! I've marked these dates on my calendar. Did you notice both dates fall on a Sunday? How weird is that?

[RightWhale]

Have you ever listened to the Art Bell show?

Only to learn what they are up to.

[lodwick]

Good informantion - thanks.

Stay safe, stay armed.

[judicial meanz]

Bttt

[judicial meanz]

Ramadan info ping

[MeekOneGOP]

Good work, Saber ! ...

[freeperfromnj]

Did you notice both dates fall on a Sunday? How weird is that?

It is weird. If you stop and think about it, how many times have you woken up on a Sunday morning to learn of another terrorist bombing?

[appalachian_dweller]

Seems like everyday I wake up I hear of another terrorist bombing.

Between this and the solar flare that just occurred...
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* securing tin foil *

[Lion in Winter]

Bump for later.

[Mo1]

Isn't there a picture on this years Islamic Calander showing some kind of fire ball?

Which month is it for?

[Thinkin' Gal]

Isn't there a picture on this years Islamic Calander showing some kind of fire ball?

Which month is it for?

Probably all of them.

[cmsgop]

Outstanding Work!

[txhurl]

Do you know if Thanksgiving - 'big meal day' - falls within Ramadan or just outside it?

[appalachian_dweller]

I believe Ramadan ends on the 23rd so Thanksgiving Day is after Ramadam ends.

[Eowyn-of-Rohan]

So, what is that supposed to mean?

[Sender]

Don'cha be messin with my Leeloo, she is mine, I tell you!

[txhurl]

And some Islamic calendars are depicting fireballs in the sky?

This is shaping up to be a bad day.

[bluelowrider57]

After countless hours of exploring this "prophecy" I have only one thing to say:

"AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..."