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Islam Eclipse Now? - Ramadan 2003 and Muslim Prophecy
October 28th, 2003 | Collected by Sabertooth, others

Posted on 10/28/2003 12:23:40 PM PST by Sabertooth

Shortly after the terrorist attacks of September 11th, a few of us Freepers became aware that Ramadan 2003 had special prophetic significance to certain Islamic sects.

They are awaiting a spiritual avatar known as the Twelfth Mahdi, who will lead Muslims to great victories in war over the infidels.

It's believed that this Mahdi will appear during a Ramadan with both a Solar and a Lunar Eclipse. This double Ramadan eclipse will occur this year, for the first time since 1786, and won't occur again until 2155.

For those Muslims who place any credence in this prophecy, this year's Ramadan is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Therefore, acts of mega-terrorism might be more likely during this time. The Lunar Eclipse of November 9th and the Solar Eclipse of November 23rd may indicate days where particular vigilance is warranted.

Below is a table of Ramadan double eclipses compiled by David McNaughton. I'll also provide some links to articles archived at Free Republic with more information on the Mahdi (link to FR keyword).


 
Eclipses during Ramadan
by David L. McNaughton
In "Hamdard Islamicus" (Karachi, Pakistan), vol. XIX no. 1 (Spring 1996): pp. 81-86.

Double Eclipses during Ramadan

Sometimes a Ramadan will contain a solar and a lunar eclipse. That inevitably provokes comment, because of traditions that such a "double-eclipse" is a portent for some unusual event. Ithna'asheri Shi'ites, for example, believe that their Twelfth Imam will reappear after a Ramadan double-eclipse (although those two phenomena will supposedly take place in reverse order, with the solar one occurring in mid-month (5); that will require the moon to suddenly double its speed of movement after the onset of the Holy Month!)

In March/April 1894 (Ramadan 1311), Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (founder of the Ahmadiyya or Qadiani movement in Pakistan) interpreted a double-eclipse as a sign that he was a genuine modern-day prophet (6). The lunar eclipse during that particular month was only partial, although the solar one two weeks later was total in a few places in eastern Asia (7). However, there was nothing at all extraordinary about those two eclipses: every 22 or 23 Islamic years there is at least one Ramadan featuring a pair of eclipses two weeks apart (8) - one of which is usually partial; see Table 1.

Very much rarer is a Ramadan containing two total eclipses.

Table 2 lists all such occasions since AH 1, as well as during the next 200 years (9); (its solar eclipses are all central, with annular ones also included).

It will be interesting to see whether the two total eclipses scheduled to occur during Ramadan 1424 (AD November 2003) - are cited to support a claim similar to that made by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, or as proof of thesignificance of some extraordinary event.

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Table 2

Ramadans with two central eclipses

LUNAR . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SOLAR

AH . . AD . . . . . . . . . . Date . . . Where visible . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Date . . .Where visible

.283 . .896 . . . . . . . ..29 Oct . . .Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . 12 Nov . Canada; Alaska;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(25 Oct) . . landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(8 Nov) . NE Pacific

.305 . .918 . . . . . . . . .5 Mar . . Eurasia; . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20 Mar . .Antarctic; south
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (28 Feb) .NE Africa . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (15 Mar) . .Indian Ocean

.462 . 1070 . . . . . . . . .2 Jul . . .Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . . .16 Jul . . .Arctic; Siberia
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(26 Jun) . .landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(10 Jul)

.529 . 1135 . . . . . . . . . 4 Jul . . .America; Pacific; . . . . . . . . . . . . 19 Jul . . .Antarctic; far
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (27 Jun) . New Zealand . . . . . . . . . . . . . .(12 Jul) . . .south Pacific

.596 . 1200 . . . . . . . . . 5 Jul . . . Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . *19 Jul . Siberia; Arctic;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (28 Jun) . .landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (12 Jul) . . NW Atlantic

1200 . 1786 . . . . . . . . .11 Jul . . . Pacific & adjacent . . . . . . . . . . 25 Jul . . South Africa &
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . landmasses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . adjacent oceans

1424 .2003. . . . . . . . .9 Nov. . .Europe; SW Asia; . . . . . . . . . .23 Nov . Antarctic; south
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Africa; America . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Indian Ocean

1580 . 2155 . . . . . . . . .9 Mar . . Europe; Africa; . . . . . . . . . . . . .*2 Apr . .China; Russia;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .America . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Kashmir; Mongolia;
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. .Afghanistan

Notes for Table 2

Central lunar eclipses are always total.

*The central solar eclipses listed above are total unless asterisked - in which case they are annular.

Dates apply to the instant of maximum eclipse.

Extrapolated Gregorian dates are given even on occasions when the old Julian calendar was in operation;
the corresponding Julian date is then shown below in brackets.

A Google search on ramadan mahdi eclipse yielded 243 results.

A Google search on ramadan mehdi eclipse (alternate "mahdi" spelling) yielded 83 results.



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To: Shermy
Antarctica? I'd think the "two eclipse" theory would be locally visable to the mid east.

Not sure it matters. Double Ramadan Eclipses happen so rarely that there's not much point in biding one's time, if one is inclined to terror/assassin cults.

What's the scoop on romiyya?


21 posted on 10/28/2003 12:40:11 PM PST by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: Sabertooth
You might wantto ask one of our resident muslims what they think.
22 posted on 10/28/2003 12:41:55 PM PST by wtc911
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To: Sabertooth
I've got a number of ping lists:

Hahaha, and I thought I was bad. I have two lists plus blam's list.

23 posted on 10/28/2003 12:44:06 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: evets
Leeloo?

Moolteepass....

24 posted on 10/28/2003 12:45:39 PM PST by mhking
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To: Sabertooth
If they believe in eclipses, they are more primitive than we feared.
25 posted on 10/28/2003 12:51:30 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Sabertooth; swarthyguy
"What's the scoop on romiyya?"

You'll get more results if you "exact phrase" search "Constantinople or Rome"

Try it!

Naturally, a Wahhab might not think "Constantiople" has been conquered yet to his (never "her") satisfaction.
26 posted on 10/28/2003 12:51:37 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy
A wahhab would say, if a wahhab could,

Istanbul, not Constantinople!
27 posted on 10/28/2003 12:53:01 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Sabertooth
INTREP - ISLAM
28 posted on 10/28/2003 12:54:15 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: swarthyguy
Even old New York was once New Amsterdam!
29 posted on 10/28/2003 12:56:28 PM PST by Shermy
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To: RightWhale
If they believe in eclipses, they are more primitive than we feared.

They? Have you ever listened to the Art Bell show?

30 posted on 10/28/2003 1:00:16 PM PST by Shermy
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To: RightWhale



If they believe in eclipses, they are more primitive than we feared.

That's nothing.

Some believe that foreigners can make Muslim penises disappear with a mere handshake... here


31 posted on 10/28/2003 1:01:22 PM PST by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks Sabertooth! I've marked these dates on my calendar. Did you notice both dates fall on a Sunday? How weird is that?
32 posted on 10/28/2003 1:02:01 PM PST by appalachian_dweller (If we accept responsibility for our own actions, we are indeed worthy of our freedom. – Bill Whittle)
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To: Shermy
Have you ever listened to the Art Bell show?

Only to learn what they are up to.

33 posted on 10/28/2003 1:04:11 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Sabertooth
Good informantion - thanks.

Stay safe, stay armed.
34 posted on 10/28/2003 1:04:19 PM PST by lodwick (Wake up, America!)
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To: Sabertooth
Bttt
35 posted on 10/28/2003 1:09:37 PM PST by judicial meanz
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To: Salem; SJackson
Ramadan info ping
36 posted on 10/28/2003 1:12:03 PM PST by judicial meanz
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To: Sabertooth
Good work, Saber ! ...


37 posted on 10/28/2003 1:15:26 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: appalachian_dweller
Did you notice both dates fall on a Sunday? How weird is that?

It is weird. If you stop and think about it, how many times have you woken up on a Sunday morning to learn of another terrorist bombing?

38 posted on 10/28/2003 1:19:09 PM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: freeperfromnj
Seems like everyday I wake up I hear of another terrorist bombing.

Between this and the solar flare that just occurred...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1009871/posts


* securing tin foil *
39 posted on 10/28/2003 1:32:43 PM PST by appalachian_dweller (If we accept responsibility for our own actions, we are indeed worthy of our freedom. – Bill Whittle)
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To: Sabertooth
Bump for later.
40 posted on 10/28/2003 1:40:08 PM PST by Lion in Winter
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