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?California Fires - Any "wildlife" burned in the fires?
11/30/03 | me

Posted on 10/30/2003 7:37:53 PM PST by Susannah

Much of the firespread in California can be blamed on overgrown and dead trees in crowded forests.

I'm trying to point out how "wildlife" is also in danger when fires rage.

Does anyone have any info on what wildlife may have fried during the fires?

Also, would like to know what kind of hunting is allowed in California. I understand the San Diego fire was set off by a lost hunter sending off a flare. I'm not a hunter, but it would seem that overgrown, thick forests allow little water and sun to normal low growth which would give animals more chance to seek shelter/hide from hunters.

note: I'm in no way against hunting, but would like to point out the conflicts between the tree-huggers and wildlife-savers.


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KEYWORDS: californiafirestorm

1 posted on 10/30/2003 7:37:53 PM PST by Susannah
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To: Susannah
Wildlife burned in the fires?

As in Babs VerytryingNthesand? Or Boxerface? Or Billdo?

Send em alovera.
2 posted on 10/30/2003 7:40:11 PM PST by Quix (DEFEAT the lying, deceptive, satanic, commie, leftist, globalist oligarchy 1 associate at a time)
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To: Susannah
There is quite a lot of opportunity for hunting in California. Besides Upland Game Birds there is; Antelope, Bear, Bighorn Sheep, Deer, Elk, Rabbits and Hares, Squirrels. Just to list a few. Since CA is a large state, there are different hunting seasons in different zones. The Fall is generally a Deer season. Mountain Lions are protected.

The area where the "alleged hunter" shot off a flare and started the San Diego fire would be in season for Deer. Later reports about the hunter dismiss the "flare" theory. Supposedly he had lit a fire for attention (?) and rescue.

As for the loss of wildlife, it will be a lot. Small creatures, such as squirrels, will have suffocated in their burrows or been burned to death, if they sought refuge in trees. Deer can run, but they tend to panic and run into something hard or off a ledge into a drop that they will not survive when they land. In short, a lot of furry critters were dying deaths much worse than being shot by an experienced hunter, i.e. "one shot, quick kill"

If you seek someone to be angry at, the Sierra Club is the most prominent suspect. They have continuously blocked the thinning of the forest by going to state and federal courts and receiving injunctions against clearing of the forest fuel to a more manageable level. The Sierra Club has tried to save the flora and fauna of California, by destroying them with their "kindness".

3 posted on 10/30/2003 8:11:19 PM PST by elbucko
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To: Susannah

4 posted on 10/30/2003 8:19:43 PM PST by Jagdgewehr
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To: Susannah
¿Wildlife?
5 posted on 10/30/2003 8:21:52 PM PST by Consort
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To: Susannah
There is a certain other board that is headlining an essay claiming the the fires are the fault of the logging companies because the take the trees and leave small pieces of wood debris behind and that is what caused the fires.
6 posted on 10/30/2003 8:22:24 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Susannah
Does anyone have any info on what wildlife may have fried during the fires?

843 chipmunks are reportedly dead.

7 posted on 10/30/2003 8:23:13 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: elbucko
Somebody sue the $ierra ba$tards and those who make donations to fuel those idiots.
8 posted on 10/30/2003 8:23:44 PM PST by Leo Carpathian
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To: Susannah
Several spiders are also in critical condition.
9 posted on 10/30/2003 8:25:30 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: FreedomCalls
There is a certain other board that is headlining an essay claiming the the fires are the fault of the logging companies because the take the trees and leave small pieces of wood debris behind and that is what caused the fires.

LOL - The coverage was on the local news 24/7 here and I never saw ANY areas that were not overcrowded with trees. The news even reported that at least half of the overgrown trees were dead or dying from bark beetle infestation. If there is logging in California, I would like to know where. I know someone in northern California who has been waiting for more than 2 years for the Bureau of Land Management to approve an access road so they can remove overgrown pine trees from their private property.

10 posted on 10/30/2003 8:43:44 PM PST by Susannah (AMERICA is the best! - Could hundreds of millions of immigrants be wrong?)
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To: elbucko
There is quite a lot of opportunity for hunting in California. Besides Upland Game Birds there is; Antelope, Bear, Bighorn Sheep, Deer, Elk, Rabbits and Hares, Squirrels. Just to list a few. Since CA is a large state, there are different hunting seasons in different zones. The Fall is generally a Deer season. Mountain Lions are protected.

There are Mountain Lions in northern Los Angeles County that are attacking children on their way to school. The local news reported it as a warning. Parents in that area are taking turns driving children to school.

11 posted on 10/30/2003 8:48:52 PM PST by Susannah (AMERICA is the best! - Could hundreds of millions of immigrants be wrong?)
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To: Leo Carpathian
Somebody sue the $ierra ba$tards and those who make donations to fuel those idiots.

D*mn Straight! I'll put up a $1,000.00 to start going after the Sierra Club queer b*astards.

12 posted on 10/30/2003 9:16:53 PM PST by elbucko
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To: Susannah
There are Mountain Lions in northern Los Angeles County that are attacking children on their way to school. The local news reported it as a warning. Parents in that area are taking turns driving children to school.

I have heard these stories too, but have not seen any actual proof of Cougars bothering children. I am not against hunting Cougars, or protecting them (to a certain extent), but the housing projects are encroaching on the Mountain Lions territory and I take the Lions side. There is a Natural order of things, and our consumer society seems determined to push "civilization" to those parts that are wild with people who are, in the wild, uncivilized. That is, they are ignorant of nature and what they don't understand, they want to get rid of.

13 posted on 10/30/2003 9:28:04 PM PST by elbucko
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To: Susannah
A scene from the Old Fire on Tuesday...


14 posted on 10/30/2003 9:34:19 PM PST by socal_parrot
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To: FreedomCalls
There is a certain other board....

Yes there is...

"The wildfires we see today in California are, most certainly, far worse because of decades of mismanagement of our forests by the government, industry, and well-meaning but misinformed environmentally-minded folks."

But they leave the most important and correct conclusion to the last.

15 posted on 10/30/2003 9:41:15 PM PST by elbucko
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To: Susannah
11/30/03

A post from the future.

16 posted on 10/30/2003 9:43:33 PM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: elbucko
I didn't read that far. It's incredible that they would admit to that!
17 posted on 10/30/2003 10:18:34 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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