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Here Come's The Sun
Space Weather News ^ | Nov. 2, 2003 | Space Weather News

Posted on 11/02/2003 5:58:12 PM PST by Barnacle

Another remarkable solar flare has erupted from giant sunspot 486--an X8-class blast at 1725 UT on Nov. 2nd. Because the sunspot is nearing the sun's western limb, this explosion was not aimed squarely at Earth. Even so, a coronal mass ejection (CME) is heading our way. Auroras could appear on Nov. 3rd or 4th when the fast-moving cloud delivers a glancing blow to Earth's magnetic field. Visit spaceweather.com for more information and images.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: aurora; cme; signsandwonders; solarflare; solarflare2003; sunspot
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Here's some hope for those of us who were clouded over for the last aurora.
1 posted on 11/02/2003 5:58:12 PM PST by Barnacle
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To: Barnacle
Another X-3 flare was just recorded. Looks like a busy week for the space weather folks (again).
2 posted on 11/02/2003 6:02:40 PM PST by Lawdoc (Incoming!)
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To: John H K; RightWhale; SamAdams76; Diddle E. Squat; petuniasevan; Truth666; thchronic; MHGinTN; ...
Ping

Sunspot 486 does it again. Standing by with fingers and toes crossed for this one.
3 posted on 11/02/2003 6:05:51 PM PST by Barnacle (Navigating the treacherous waters of a liberal culture)
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To: Lawdoc; All
Please let me know if you want to be on or off my Aurora Ping List.
4 posted on 11/02/2003 6:17:04 PM PST by Barnacle (Navigating the treacherous waters of a liberal culture)
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To: Barnacle
Please put me on your ping list. Thanks. Here's the x ray flux. For some reason every once in a while you have to hit refresh on this site. 4 X class flare in such a short time. Very interesting...http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/xray_5m.html
5 posted on 11/02/2003 6:24:05 PM PST by Davea
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To: Barnacle
Please put me on your ping list. Thanks. Here's the x ray flux. For some reason every once in a while you have to hit refresh on this site. 4 X class flare in such a short time. Very interesting...http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/xray_5m.html
6 posted on 11/02/2003 6:24:06 PM PST by Davea
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To: Barnacle
Please put me on your ping list. Thanks. Here's the x ray flux. For some reason every once in a while you have to hit refresh on this site. 4 X class flare in such a short time. Very interesting...http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/xray_5m.html
7 posted on 11/02/2003 6:24:06 PM PST by Davea
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To: Davea
Woah!! Sorry about those repeating posts. Don't know what happened there.
8 posted on 11/02/2003 6:25:25 PM PST by Davea
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To: Davea
"Woah!! Sorry about those repeating posts. Don't know what happened there. "

Solar interference with your keykeykeykeykeykeyboard.

9 posted on 11/02/2003 6:28:58 PM PST by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: Davea
OK.

OK.

OK!

Good link.
10 posted on 11/02/2003 6:33:31 PM PST by Barnacle (Navigating the treacherous waters of a liberal culture)
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To: Barnacle
Thanks x 3
11 posted on 11/02/2003 6:35:25 PM PST by Davea
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To: Davea
LOL! Sunspots! Sunspots! Sunspots!
12 posted on 11/02/2003 6:38:44 PM PST by Aracelis
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To: Barnacle; RadioAstronomer
Thanks for the ping!
13 posted on 11/02/2003 6:40:16 PM PST by Aracelis
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To: Piltdown_Woman
Sunspots! Sunspots! Sunspots!

Get 'em while they're hot.

14 posted on 11/02/2003 6:41:07 PM PST by Barnacle (Navigating the treacherous waters of a liberal culture)
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To: Barnacle
I agree with that. Last week Wednesday was clear all day- hoped to have a good view of the northern lights- then clouded over just as the sun was setting. Damn Michigan weather. Now they're predicting rain all week. Probably won't see them again this time either.
15 posted on 11/02/2003 6:41:55 PM PST by roballen
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To: Barnacle
Is an aluminum foil hat more effective if it is grounded???
16 posted on 11/02/2003 6:44:59 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Barnacle
This has been a BOON to the higher frequency amateur bands (like 10 and 6 Meters) -

- I had several friends work Hawaii on Six Meters (50 MHz) which would not have been possible without these last solar events!
17 posted on 11/02/2003 7:05:36 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Resources on Solar effects, effects on satellites, power systems)
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To: Barnacle
Last night Art Bell claimed that the strong sun flare decreases the earth's magnetic field, weakens it momentarily and substantially. Is he hallucinating?
18 posted on 11/02/2003 7:20:46 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: RightWhale
Here's somm good info....http://science.nasa.gov/ssl/pad/sppb/edu/magnetosphere/bullets.html
19 posted on 11/02/2003 7:22:54 PM PST by Davea
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To: Davea
Art Bell described the squashing of the mag field as like squeezing a sponge, but he went on to say that if a series of strong flares hit, the natural protection of the earth by its mag field might be so diminished that the later flare could reach the ground and cause mass extinction. He says perfectly behaved stars such as the sun can do this.

Yeah, Art 'Y2K' Bell, AKA Hale-Bopp Bell

20 posted on 11/02/2003 7:28:16 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: RightWhale
the earth's magnetic field, weakens it momentarily and substantially.

No more so than forcing two bar magnetes South pole to South pole and likewise with the North; momentarily the normal fields are displaced but 'weaken' is not a term I would use ...

21 posted on 11/02/2003 7:50:14 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Resources on Solar effects, effects on satellites, power systems)
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To: _Jim
No more so than forcing two bar magnetes South pole to South pole and likewise with the North; momentarily the normal fields are displaced but 'weaken' is not a term I would use ...

I ask as one who knows little of these things. If two magnets are forced together South-to-South and North-to-North they try to get into a North-South alignment. They don't 'like' this orientation. Could not the same thing happen if a strong enough field approached from space? That is, could Earth wobble a little on its axis as the two fields interacted?

22 posted on 11/02/2003 8:30:41 PM PST by pa_dweller (How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?)
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To: pa_dweller
That is, could Earth wobble a little on its axis as the two fields interacted?

Yes, it's all a matter of degrees ... having said that, it would take an awful lot of 'matter' hitting the magnetosphere and ionosphere to have an effect. We are more likely to see the earth's magnetic field change due to internal forces (in fact, it moves yearly, in fact, it moves daily) ...

North Magnetic Pole

Daily Movement of the North Magnetic Pole (Including diagram)

23 posted on 11/02/2003 8:37:37 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Resources on Solar effects, effects on satellites, power systems)
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To: _Jim
in fact, it moves yearly, in fact, it moves daily

That I remember from Boy Scout days. Thanks.

24 posted on 11/02/2003 9:05:01 PM PST by pa_dweller (How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?)
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To: Barnacle
3rd X-Class flare in 36 hours happened overnight. This is not even solar max.
25 posted on 11/03/2003 5:43:41 AM PST by Lawdoc (Incoming!)
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To: RightWhale
If Art Bell says so, it must be true. ?;^T
26 posted on 11/03/2003 8:39:51 AM PST by Barnacle (Navigating the treacherous waters of a liberal culture)
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To: Lawdoc
Almost a pulse to the sequence.
27 posted on 11/03/2003 8:48:38 AM PST by per loin
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To: roballen
Damn Michigan weather. Now they're predicting rain all week.

This is frustrating indeed.

http://wwwa.accuweather.com/adcbin/public/sat_index.asp?getArea=UN_REG&type=loop&sattype=ir&x=83&y=7

28 posted on 11/03/2003 8:50:52 AM PST by Barnacle (Navigating the treacherous waters of a liberal culture)
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To: Barnacle
Here Come's The Sun

For Ghu's sake, get the poster and hang it over your work area:


29 posted on 11/03/2003 8:53:42 AM PST by steve-b
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To: steve-b
Lot's of LOL's to you!
30 posted on 11/03/2003 8:56:54 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: steve-b
We know all that. What make's you think we dont know such basic's?
31 posted on 11/03/2003 8:59:46 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: The Great RJ
Is an aluminum foil hat more effective if it is grounded???

Definitely. I heard it on Art Bell.

32 posted on 11/03/2003 9:12:15 AM PST by Barnacle (Navigating the treacherous waters of a liberal culture)
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For Ghu's sake, get the poster and hang it over your work area

Yes Ma’am.

33 posted on 11/03/2003 9:27:03 AM PST by Barnacle (Navigating the treacherous waters of a liberal culture)
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To: Barnacle
INCOMING:

Space Weather Message Code: WARSUD
Serial Number: 32
Issue Time: 2003 Nov 04 0609 UTC

WARNING: Geomagnetic Sudden Impulse expected
Valid From: 2003 Nov 04 0620 UTC
Valid To: 2003 Nov 04 0700 UTC
IP Shock Passage Observed: 2003 Nov 04 0600 UTC
34 posted on 11/03/2003 10:23:09 PM PST by Lawdoc (Incoming!)
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To: RightWhale
I don't know about the weakening part but the pressure of the solar wind does deflect the field closer to Earth and as the wind is composed of particles, and a CME is a boatload of them, it stands to reason that the deflection increases during them.
35 posted on 11/03/2003 10:30:14 PM PST by Axenolith (<insert rapier witticism here>)
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To: Lawdoc
IMPACT:

Space Weather Message Code: SUMSUD
Serial Number: 38
Issue Time: 2003 Nov 04 0631 UTC

SUMMARY: Geomagnetic Sudden Impulse
Observed: 2003 Nov 04 0627 UTC
Deviation: 72 nT
Station: Boulder

Bz is North so far.
36 posted on 11/03/2003 10:35:16 PM PST by Lawdoc (Incoming!)
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To: _Jim
Cool links. Thanks.
37 posted on 11/04/2003 11:56:36 AM PST by Barnacle (A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
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To: Davea; John H K; RightWhale; SamAdams76; Diddle E. Squat; petuniasevan; Truth666; thchronic; ...
Dave, I just happened to take a look at your link and saw another spike shoot right off the X-scale!


http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/xray_5m.html
38 posted on 11/04/2003 12:02:10 PM PST by Barnacle (A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
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Would that be a Y-class event?
39 posted on 11/04/2003 12:06:23 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Barnacle
Another X-18. Probably no Earth directed CME this time. Still this is crazy for this part of the solar cycle.
40 posted on 11/04/2003 12:06:26 PM PST by Lawdoc (Incoming!)
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To: Barnacle
COnsidering the high yesterday was a X-8 , this one looks to be a 9 or 10, might even be challenging the 11 from last week. WOW!
41 posted on 11/04/2003 12:07:58 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: Barnacle
WOW! Space Weather.com just showed the latest to be an X-14!
42 posted on 11/04/2003 12:13:04 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: RightWhale
Would that be a Y-class event?

I think that's what they're calling them.

43 posted on 11/04/2003 12:15:06 PM PST by Barnacle (A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
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I sure hope these massive sunspot groups calm down before they come about again in a week or so.
44 posted on 11/04/2003 12:19:12 PM PST by adaven
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To: Barnacle
Shields up, Mr. Sulu!
45 posted on 11/04/2003 12:21:17 PM PST by colorado tanker ("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
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To: commish
Check out this link:
http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/xray_1m.html
46 posted on 11/04/2003 12:28:35 PM PST by Lawdoc (Incoming!)
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To: commish
I wonder which sunspot. 486? - Old Faithful.
47 posted on 11/04/2003 12:34:37 PM PST by Barnacle (A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
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To: Barnacle; mitchbert
I am wondering how to take photos of the aurora... I have a Sony-F707 that I can take photos with. I know it can be done, I just don't know what settings to use.
48 posted on 11/04/2003 12:35:59 PM PST by abner (In search of a witty tag line...)
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To: thchronic
Right, but instead of looking like a random event during the quiet sun part of the solar cycle, they seem to be continuing and maybe getting stronger. Will these events continue and start doing real damage? The sun probably won't just explode altogether, but it could get unfriendly to life on earth. That's Art Bell stuff, but he might be right one of these times.
49 posted on 11/04/2003 12:36:30 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Barnacle
Yep - she came out of good ole 486. GOES has it rated as X-18+, Space weather as X-14 or X-11.

Some saying this may be the biggest one ever recorded by the time all the data is collected.

50 posted on 11/04/2003 12:37:30 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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